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Are you confused by dropshipping

Discussion in 'Dropshipping & Wholesale Hookups' started by jasong42122, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. jasong42122

    jasong42122 Newbie

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    There has been alot of confusion lately about dropshipping and what or where is the best place to go.I would just like to say if you decide to get into this it can be a great venture but there is alot of misconceptions about it .First off 99% of anything from china is fake,but that does not mean they are not real.Confused ? Let me explain lets use Nike for instance they will send an order to the factory for 100,000 pairs of shoes now the factory makes the shoes,but they have enough material to make 20,000 more pairs Well that is exactly what they do then they will turn around and sell them for cheap the same with shirts,jeans,ect for those items dhgate is a good source but you need to know be cautious there are alot of con men if you are looking for a directory or a company that sells alot of products I would only recommend one place that is http://www.thepowersellersunion.com this site is the only all in one place for you to get access to products they have there own for you to sell and give you a directory with hundreds of other places,and a website builder,plus they have no monthly fees you should never have to pay a place monthly fees to sell there stuff that is absurd .If I can help more pm me or leave a post.
     
  2. YoungGuns

    YoungGuns Regular Member Premium Member

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    No, but you have a $100 one time fee and a $25 yearly fee.

    If you want to promote your website, post it in the Buy sell trade section, and link to that thread from here.

    And don't promote a website builder when yours doesn't look good (not that I'm any good with websites)
     
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  3. jasong42122

    jasong42122 Newbie

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    First off I dont own either Dhgate or thepowersellers union I am however a member of both and I make alot of money using those sites because they are the best I made this post not to insult anyone or make anyone mad.It does appear that alot of people on this forum are needing help regarding this issue and I was only trying to help them out because there is alot of bad information going around and if I can help one person to save or make some money then it was a good post.I just try to help people out I dont have time to go around making negative comments about people or other websites.When I dont have any info on them or who they are. Dhgate is actually a huge site and you can make a lot of money there if you know what your doing and the powersellers union is the only drop shipping company of its kind that is endorsed by two hundred independent drop shipping companies and I would much rather pay 100.00 once than 25.00a month like doba and dropship designs that is 300.00 a year Megagoods charges 15.00 a month as well and sixty dollars to sign up.Plus most other dropshipping companies charge anywhere from 1.50 to3.00 a product that you sell if you sold a hundred items a month or more like I do that is a lot.What other dropshipping companies would you suggest or are you just here to insult people
     
  4. themagician

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    '...Well jasong42122,

    Your explanation of Drop Shipping relates solely to China, but can also relate to the way most Asian companies work, together with your personal recommendations and experience.

    However, it does not offer a true and accurate description of Drop Shipping per se and so, to elaborate on the thread you started, here is a more detailed explanation of Drop Shipping for the benefit of forum members.

    Drop Shipping is a product management technique where you do not need to hold any inventory or buy any goods to stock. Instead, the suppliers or manufacturers will pack and ship the goods for you and mail or deliver directly to the customers themselves.

    Put simply, you pass on the customer's order to the suppliers who will then do the rest of the work and you keep the profits difference between the supplier's price and your selling price.

    Benefits Of Drop Shipping

    The two main benefits of using drop shipping are - no need to buy any goods and no loss incurred. You do not make a loss because you are paid immediately when the customer makes a purchase.

    The latter is extremely beneficial to new sellers as it allow you to sell anything you want without the need for a budget! For example, you can choose to drop ship expensive equipment, television or furniture without the need to buy them beforehand.

    Disadvantages

    One of the major disadvantages to drop shipping is that you take the blame if something goes wrong because your customers only care about their ordered items and are not interested in problems you might be encountering from your Drop Shipper. All they know is that you took their money and they did not get their ordered product. There is also a greater possibility of a scam. So never part with your money unless you are confident about the deal and your Drop Shipper.

    Second disadvantage is delivering information about the product. For this you will have to contact the supplier to get the information and then contact the customer to pass the information on. This can be very time consuming. (You cannot put the customer directly in touch with the supplier or you will lose the sale). Having no control over the inventory that you are selling and over how fast the item is re-stocked and shipped is another big disadvantage. Sometime serious delays gives rise to annoyance among the customers and a bad name to your reputation.

    The strategy to take the responsibilities of your Drop Shippers actions is at your disadvantage because the customer knows only you and so you will end up being the one who is responsible for any kind of error in the process of delivering the ordered goods to the customers. You will be the one to apologise and set matters straight with the customer, not the Drop Shipper.

    Highly competitive, you will also have to keep one jump ahead because other people can end up selling the same product from the same Drop Shipper that you utilise, thus decreasing your profits. Therefore it is important that you take care of all these disadvantages to run your online business successfully.

    Personally, I do not like Drop Shipping as I always like to be in total control of my business.

    themagician
     
  5. jasong42122

    jasong42122 Newbie

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    Thank you themagician you are exactly right I was just relating to the two I have done the best with I think I made some people mad because I posted this,but I just wanted to give my insight to the two places I use the most I have an excellent dropshipper out of Singapore who sells me Ralph Lauren polos for 9 dollars a piece that I in turn sell for 29.00 at my physical store front that I got off of Dhgate The key to it is to research the suppliers thoroughly I also get Nike shox from a guy for 25.00 I sell all day for 50.00 and the powersellers union I have gotten womens tops at 8 of them for 20.00 ,and alot of electronics the thing is people on the internet do not want to give up there sources and they get mad if someone else does because they are afraid that they will lose a sell online I believe quite the opposite there are millions of items being sold daily and it is childish to get mad if someone tells the secret I remember a couple years back when I had gotten into drop shipping It took me forever to find a decent site and I think that is wrong! I believe that everybody is just trying to make a dollar and survive and we need to help each other so I have no problem letting the "secret sites out "and if people dont like it too bad as I said before if I can save or make someone else some money then I have not done one thing wrong! I see alot of people on here talking about how good Doba is and drop ship designs when I know good and well that they are just scam sites.Go to google and type in Doba scam and see what comes back or drop ship designs scam and you will get a million hits .If I offended anyone by telling the truth about a couple sites I dont care and if anybody wants to know where to get any products from I will gladly tell you.
     
  6. themagician

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    '...$9.00 for a Ralph Lauren polo is about 100 baht more than I would get them in Prat-u-nam Bangkok, but I am a tough negotiator...lol

    (100 baht is about $3.00). Not much difference but you know how these things add up if you're moving quantity.

    As I'm here, it is easy to fly up to Bangkok, do the buying and then fly back. If in stock, goods arrive to my door within 24 hours.

    Thailand is not cheap for electrical goods, though. Malaysia is much cheaper and Taiwan even better, of course. Singapore is also expensive compared to Kuala Lumpur and other parts of Malaysia.

    To compare Singapore with Malaysia is like comparing Hong Kong to mainland China.

    Sounds like you have a good business going.

    Good luck!

    themagician

    PS Will probably PM you, but later.
     
  7. CyberDilemma

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    My question to you Jasong is how can you tell for sure that you are not really selling knock-offs? I read in the paper all the time about retail shop owners and flea market operators getting arrested by the feds for selling counterfeit goods. And each time there is usually a quote from the busted store owner saying he or she did not know the goods were counterfeit. Is there any way to truly cover your ass on this?
     
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    3 DOLLARS LESS that is good,but I dont have to pay to have them imported as they have a office in the states so Im pretty happy with my 9 dollars,but yes do PM me. THANKS!
     
  9. jasong42122

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    Yes because as I explained there is real clothing that comes from the factories and then there is the knock offs they come from different places mostly sweat shops.You must first and most importantly know who your dealing with and make sure they are reputable .Dh gate uses a feedback system similar to ebay.So you can actually see the sellers transactions,but you dont have to shop in china you can get them here in the states as well thepowersellersunion buys them in bulk from liquidators who get them from macys and dillards and then they resell them to you in lots for you to turn around and dropship they also do the same with items such as electronics bedding shoes ect That is why I recommended these two places because they are the most profitable I hope I answered your question let me know if you have any more. One more thing the guys on tv they knew what they were doing have you ever seen a guilty crook? haha
     
  10. themagician

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    '...Your question CyberDilemma is directed to Jasong, so forgive me if I jump in as well.

    It sounds to me like Jasong knows what he's talking about so it will be interesting to see his answer but I can tell a knock-off miles away, just like I can tell a Ladyboy without having to get up really close...lol (You'd be surprised how many tourists, here on a shag-fest, sleep with a bloke and don't realise it)...But I digress.

    There are subtle signs and you need to learn them. Sadly, there is no tutorial, you get the skill from experience. But, with respect, you are falling into the same trap as everyone in the West.

    If it looks like a Lacoste shirt - has been made to the same standard with fabric off the same roll, with all the labels, buttons, logo etc., and has been made in the same workshop and washes and wears the same and comes to you with a swing ticket, cellophane and tissue wrapping, blah-blah,... what makes a knock-off so different to a genuine other than the price?

    Now we're not talking Rolex watches here or the difference between genuine diamonds and Cubic Zirconia. (Incidentally don't ever settle for less than D-flawless if purchasing a diamond)...But I digress again, I'm just trying to demonstrate that some of us know what we're talking about...lol-again.

    We are so conned by clever marketing, Politicians and hypnotic propoganda in the West that we take it all in, and so did I. It's only now, living in Asia where I can eat out with alcohol in a nice restaurant for a dollar or two that I cannot believe I have paid $350.00 in the past for Sushi in Las Vegas, for example. (Yes, I'm off the beaten track again, sorry!).

    Anyway, How do YOU know that the Ralph Lauren you just spent your weeks salary on is genuine? Not because it came from some fancy shop, that's for sure. If only this wasn't the Internet, I could show you two Versace shirts or Jeans - one genuine and one knock-off and I KNOW you couldn't tell the difference, they are THAT good.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but I still dress the same as ever, live the same life-style and have sh*tloads more cash because I'm paying $6.00 for shirt and you're paying $95.00, and if I'm wearing copies and I don't realise it, then there's no way you're going to know, so I really don't give a damn!

    themagician

    PS To hopefully prove a point - You won't find Thais wearing fancy label clothes. As we say in the U.K. They don't get all 'logo-ed up' because they know what a con it is. Embroider a crocodile on a T-shirt, call it Lacoste and charge an extra $50.00? I don't think so!
     
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    To be more specific to your question CyberDilemma If you wanted to be 100% sure you could use an American company that gets items in liquidation take this company for example http://www.spclothing.com/ or this one http://bestlabelsonline.com/mens.aspx and you can make a fortune if you have a retail store I have purchased the mens suits and they actually give you a better deal the more you buy but I purchased 500 of them and I paid 30 dollars each and sold everyone of them for 125.00 a piece.They were all brand new with tags and everything also you can get the companies in america to write you out a receipt stating they are real then your ass is covered.(By the way I dont own those websites either before someone jumps to conclusions) You see Cyber the THING IS PEOPLE DONT WANT ME TO GIVE OUT THIS INFORMATION TO YOU! BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY CARING ABOUT THERE OWN ASS AND NO ONE ELSE AND TO MR YOUNG GUNS UP THERE IF YOU REALLY KNEW ABOUT DROPSHIPPING IT IS NOT THE FANCY 2000.00 WEBSITE THAT HAS A MILLION PRODUCTS THAT PEOPLE MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT IS ONES LIKE http://WWW.THEPOWERSELLERSUNION.COM AND THOSE OTHER THREE I HAVE NOW SHARED WITH EVERYONE I DONT SEE ANYBODY ELSE ON HERE WITH ANY REAL SOLUTIONS OR ANSWERING QUESTIONS EXCEPT MYSELF AND THE MAGICIAN SO BEFORE YOU TRY TO DEBUNK WHAT I AM SAYING YOU COULD REALIZE I AM JUST TRYING TO HELP OUT!
     
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    press enter more please
     
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    Ok Ok jeez you gotta look at it from my point of view. This site have new members that sign up here all the time and do nothing but post a bunch of links promoting themselves. I have a few sources for regular merchandise (not like the stuff you're talking about) that all can be found on this forum. (I'll post the thread links later)

    I never said that your sources weren't good. I never said I had more experience than you (you definitely do in dropshipping)

    However, even though they're literally the same product according to you, I would think that they're still technically exact replicas, which means you COULD get in trouble.

    Just the first thing I thought of from your first post is that that site had a membership fee and you were linking to it. I have no way of knowing if you own it or are receiving some benefit from promoting it.
     
  14. jasong42122

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    Ok truce YoungGuns I do understand your point as well I should have explained my point of view better as well I understand I am new and I probably would have thought the same thing if I were you. My intentions were to only educate people to the fact that they can make money dropshipping with the right sources and even though they might not have a 2000.00 website thepowersellersunion is the best place I hear so much about the big companies like Doba or Drop ship designs THAT IT JUST MAKES ME SICK those places do nothing but rip people off Yes Doba may have a million products as they claim but they dont tell you that the prices of those products are so high that you cant make any money off of them.As a matter of fact you can find the same items cheaper a Walmart in alot of cases and dropship designs man I can not tell you how many times I have seen people get ripped off by those clowns.They actually pay people to do exactly what your talking about,and in my defense I had stopped by here on accident and I started reading some other post and I seen people posting about how good those bullshit sites were and I had to say something.That was why I wrote this topic To try and inform people of the sites that are good and the ones that are crap because alot of people dont know and they end up losing alot of money to a scam. As far as what you asked Technically and I am basing this off of the law in my state if you purchase goods knowing they are fake you can get in trouble if you sell them as the real thing http://www.spclothing.com/and http://bestlabelsonline.com/mens.aspx are both American companies with pretty much the same stuff that is 100% real these are just a few of the ones I use you can find more at ....ha ha. One more thing as I said earlier people know the difference in the real ones and the fake ones when dealing with Chinese suppliers and clothing 90% of the stuff is just a knockoff and they know it that is why you have to have a honest supplier and that is real hard to find and the people selling the stuff must be honest as well NO offence to flea market sellers but most reputable clothing stores are not located inside freddys flea land.
     
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    Are the Powersellersunion upgraded memberships worth it?