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Are Articles worth it for the links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Spaceman, May 28, 2010.

  1. Spaceman

    Spaceman Regular Member

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    Hi All,

    I was just browsing some articles at the ever popular ezinearticles site and noted that none of the actual article pages had any PR (non that I looked at anyway). They were all Grey Barred on the toobar so not even PR0.

    This has naturally led me to wonder whether its worth writing articles and putting my links in them. I mean do the links mean anything?

    I just did my first article and had it accepted at ezinearticles - but im thinking that maybe I shouldnt have bothered.

    So - bottom line.

    Is a link from ezinearticles worth any juice of any kind in fat g's eyes? or am I simply pissing in the wind.

    :)
    Spaceman
     
  2. Class

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    It's worth something. It's an established authority site; however, eza keeps changing things - ex. you can only have up to 3 words in anchor text, has to be a page with some value ect.

    In short, eza is good to drive traffic, or rank in the serps, but theres better ways to get links.

    *in b4 micallef
     
  3. Spaceman

    Spaceman Regular Member

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    Hi Class - can you give me a hint of a better way to get links?

    Ive done the social bookmarks and profile links with senuke to no effect - should I try scrapebox do you think?

    Any help appreciated
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  4. Ramsweb

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    Ezine article links are not useless. I was actually wanting to know about its effects and just wrote 14 articles today. I will let you know about how much I move once they are published.

    I am hoping that it will help me jump at least 20 places in the SERP's. It gets a decent amount of traffic when you write articles and some of it converts as well. Definitely not worthless. But remember that you have to use the resource box and have to follow all their silly rules to make it count.

    I will post back on how the links work out for me.
     
  5. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Not only do the links have value but after time, the articles get ranked very well in G and you get very nice targeted traffic from them.

    It's worth the effort absolutely.
     
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    You have to think how many people will click through your to your url when ezines has a ton of adsense links sitting there based on your content.

    The only place I put articles is on adsense sharing sites so at least I might earn something from them. Hubpages is a good one and has high PR and traffic rating and you get 60% adsense.
     
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    Well, in that case, EZA must be having an extremely low ctr for adsense.

    I've a couple of articles that constantly get clicked at a ctr of over 60%. And a total of above 20% for all of them. I've only 15 articles up though.
     
  8. BassTrackerBoats

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    60% is outstanding... I have several thousand articles at ezine and average a tad under 28% CTR.
     
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    you guys are talking about the traffic i think he more so talking about the backlinks me personally don't think its worth the hassle to write a unique articles or even spun one then submit them all over the place to article directories because like you mentioned most of them never get pr on their own so would basically have to build backlinks to that article..id rather spend time building backlinks to that site..but if you could do this in the masses it would be worth but just a couple of times imo it just isnt worth the time

    let me add that if you have the money to outsource this do it im not saying these kind of backlinks aren't powerful they are but when you have to do it by yourself then multiple keywords could take a real long time
     
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    thats why you have to bookmark your articles to **************** bm sites. use BMD it works well for this job.
     
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    Out of interest, how do you write 14 articles in a day successfully? Did you just basically spend all your day doing it non-stop? All on the same subject?

    To the OP, I think articles are very vital. I use Automatic Article Submitter, I spin the articles I write carefully (time-consuming, yes), but I'm pretty sure that it's the main reason a few of my pages have gone number 1 for a few search terms I was targeting.

    Steve.
     
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    The directory backlinks generally provide a short term boom in visitors (from being new articles to the directory), and long term 'subsystem' of links supporting traffic to your site. PR is not the be-all and end all of traffic, if you build a network of good links it can replace the prominence of Google in driving traffic to your site. Meaning your traffic won't be dependent on G's SERP dance in order to keep coming.
     
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    I could write 14 450+ word articles in under 4 hours on related subjects.

    It's not so hard, you choose three or four keyword phrases, write down three or four points, three or four sub points and begin the process.

    First paragraph is telling the reader what you are going to write and slap one of your keyword phrases in there.

    Second paragraph talks about the uses/benefits/processes/etc of one of your sub points.

    Third paragraph, you write about how the sub points and the Keyword phrase work together.

    Final paragraph, you sum up what you wrote telling the reader what you just told them in different words.


    Or...

    You could go on down to your local Panara bread, McDonalds, Burger King, whatever and write about how the people that are coming and going would be affected by your keyword phrase.

    Or...

    You could go on down to one of those places and make up stories about the people that work there and how your keyword phrase would affect them.

    Or...

    You could grab your laptop and sit in a busy down town area and talk about how the businesses there would benefit from your keyword phrases.

    Being creative is about putting yourself in places where you can be creative.
     
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    That's a really great reply BassTrackerBoats, thanks for that. I'll use it very well.

    Very kind of you to give such a good explanation.

    Steve.
     
  16. Mr Allante

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    I find EZA links to help push my web site up in g00gle and the article itself gets indexed on page 1 or 2 when it it published. Keeping it there takes a few links to the article itself. I find it is worth it...
     
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    I wrote 14 articles in about 4-5 hours. Not to boast but I type at 95 wpm on a good day with some damn typos that sometimes get articles rejected :eek:
    They are all on the same subject. This is how I do the writing. I open up ezine and take some popular articles. I read through them once and get a good idea of the structure and basically just rewrite the whole thing in my own words.

    The fast typing speed definitely helps. Also, I used to write good short stories in school, lol, that probably helps as well.
     
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    My 14 articles have been published at Ezine. My rank however has not improved at all. Please don't let this discourage you however. My site seems to be really stagnant as of late. I even got two PR6 homepage links to it and it still did not move.

    I think there are some other factors affecting it. I would say that 14 Ezine articles would help you move up in the SERP's by about 30-50 places or so.
     
  19. GreyWolf

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    Well, really traffic is always the goal. That's the only reason you really care about google in the first place, and it's good to remember that it's not the only source of traffic.

    Even if your goal IS just to get higher in the SERPs or get a higher PR, then it's still a good idea to use article directories. The google algorithm is searching for sites that have natural popularity because they think those sites must be the most relevant to what people are searching for. Even if an article backlink doesn't seem powerful, it should be included along with all the other type of sites you need backlinks from. A natural site wouldn't have backlinks from a preponderance of just a few site types.

    As BassTrackerBoats pointed out, you should also be backlinking to your articles and other pages that have your backlinks. You're trying to simulate the naturally popular sites that google considers relevant. Google is looking for that type of interconnectedness, as well as traffic stats to determine popularity.
     
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    Good shitz to know about EZA
    1. movie on youtube directing to EZA to get views
    1.1 digg / facebook / stumble / twitter to get the initial views on youtube going (to help make it semi viral)
    2. 2 profiles on major keyword-related forums.
    2.1 open a thread with one, reply with the next one "i don't know the details but maybe this article may help you".... you'll get a couple hundred views.
    3. EZA article will get PR of 3 and will give your site link juice.

    Ye, that's all.. for the moment. =)