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Are aged domains with no PR worth anything?

Discussion in 'Domain Names & Parking' started by turdface, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    I have a domain from 2006, 2002, and 1999. They're .coms with words or combinations of words in the domain (as opposed to random characters or gibberish).

    None of them have any links or PR, but they're also not penalized. They're just unused.

    I'm not sure if I'm going to use them. Are they worth anything?
     
  2. Ztak07

    Ztak07 Regular Member

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    If they have backlinks maybe. Look through the backlinks if any and you can et a rough estimate of the PR the website will be. Also check the domain and page authority using tools like opensiteexplorer or mozcheck.com. Aged domains usually do not get sandboxed so you can blast away with links
     
  3. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    Dude I feel like you didn't even read my post because my second paragraph said "none of them have any links or PR."

    I'm asking about aged domains with no links or PR.
     
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    cgimaster Power Member

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    worth anything to resell or to buy and rank yourself, etc, for your own site ?

    I've made a small test in December with 2 domains both EMD however one was 2 years old and the other brand new and the 2 years old one ranked way faster and better then the brand new one. I've used the exact same method to rank both.
     
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    AR!ZONA Regular Member

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    If they haven't yet been indexed, I'd say not much value
     
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    Their registration price, nothing more
     
  7. watley

    watley Power Member

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    Well, if they've all been indexed since them (and haven't been dropped), they're going to be easier to work with coming out of the gate because they already have a lot of age on them. Your domains aren't necessarily worth anything, but if the previous factors are on the good side you should have a little easier time ranking them.
     
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    turdface Supreme Member

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    So you're saying a brand new 2013 domain that you just registered is worth the same as a domain from 1999 with no links or anything?
     
  9. cecle

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    Pretty much yeah, unless it's very brandable or has a brand or company that might benefit from acquiring it.
     
  10. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    Interesting. So you're saying domain age doesn't matter at all?
     
  11. infoasian

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    Domain age matters in terms of history. If a site has been in good standing with solid content and old links, domain age matters. Look at it like a property for rent. An old unused apartment is probably more difficult to rent than a brand new one. I would go as far and say, a new domain will be better than an old, unused one.
     
  12. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    That makes sense.

    So old domains with a history of old links that are still valid are worth more.

    Old domains with no old links that still exist are not worth any more than a new domain which also has no existing links.
     
  13. twistedtrick

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    Interesting opportunity to do a quick case study! If you have some free time it would be cool if you would register a new domain very similar to an existing aged domain, throw up some content and build similar links and see how they rank together.

    I don't think one would rank much higher than the other, unless the domain had preexisting links.
     
  14. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    I'm sure it had preexisting links back in the day, it just doesn't anymore.
     
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    turdface Supreme Member

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    Technique for what?
     
  16. evilclown

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    A) If domain has been register since (only one owner) it's worth something, even it has never had a website or backlinks.

    B) Domain has been drop and register by different people every year, it still worth something, but to break the format you will need to do at least 5 years registration.

    C) PR is not something you should look at, it has no value beyond your crawl rate. A site can be PR1 and produce more income than a PR5. PR is nothing to use to value something. Domainers don't really look at PR. Yes, having PR means it has some links coming in and might have some traffic.

    Has the domain been parked? Has the domain been with no dns? Depending what you are trying to do is what information you need to look at. If you want to develop the domain then looking at preexisting links can help you determine if that is valuable or not. But if you selling domains there is another set of data you need to look at. You can sell domains thinking as an SEO guy.
     
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  17. mike007

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    The core value of a domain is heavily depending on the "domainname" and the extension, not the age or the PR. Age and PR may add some value to a good domain but may not add any value to a lousy domain as the domainers will not even look at those lousy domain at the first place.

    For example, toys.com worth million of dollars even without age/PR/backlinks. However, zwdhsk.org with high PR/backlinks/aged may worth nothing.
     
  18. evilclown

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    Great notes. 123.com, 123.net and 123.org or domains like 3m.com, or 5m.com .net and .org are worth millions. I actually asked a few owners for some NNN.com and they responded with huge figures.
     
  19. turdface

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    Is it only a drop if it goes through a period where no one owns it (ie. the created date resets)? In other words, if I registered a domain in 2003 and I owned it for 10 years and then I sell it to you tomorrow and you take over with your own registration info and your own hosting, is that a "drop"? A whois would show that the domain is still "created on" some day in 2003.

    That's the first I've heard of this. Source?

    I tend to look at Domain Authority, Page Authority, MozRank and MozTrust more than PR.

    Well a whois still says it was created in 1999. It's got a couple archive records for 2004 but that's it.

    I just wondered if I could sell it based on its old creation date. It seems the answer is no (unless someone happened to want it for the name).
     
  20. Sonyp3

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    Just to be sure you can try asking for appraisal in domainkaforum, IF they have any value you can go ahead and sell them on that site too..