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Apple wins case against samsung

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  1. Knoxgates

    Knoxgates Supreme Member

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    The jury in the landmark Apple-Samsung trial announced moments ago that Samsung infringed on patents for ?381 ?bounce back? scrolling functionality on all devices.

    On the ?915 patent, relating to one finger to scroll, two to pinch and zoom navigation, all but three Samsung devices (Ace, Intercept and Replenish) infringed.

    For Apple?s ?163 patent (tap to zoom) all Samsung devices except Captivate, Indulge, Intercept, Nexus S 4G, Transform and Vibrant infringed.

    The jury then answered a question about inducement, regarding whether Samsung made its U.S. arms infringe: yes for the ?381 ?bounce back? patent on all devices, yes for ?915 ?one finger scrolling? for all devices except Replenish and yes for ?163 ?tap to zoom? for all except Captivate, Continuum, Gem, Indulge, Nexus S 4G.

    The dense trial involved more than a dozen different patents, over 30 allegedly infringing devices and wide-ranging claims on design ownership; both sides argued their cases and defended themselves concurrently, all while enraging federal judge Lucy Koh.

    Apple began with a full-fledged assault, hurling numerous trademark claims, design and technical patent claims and more; after judge Koh ordered Apple to pare it down, the company has focused on a few key patents, the simplicity of its design and working to prove a pattern of copying by Samsung. Apple?s total monetary demand was $2.525 billion.

    Meanwhile, Samsung claimed that Apple?s iPhone and iPad were infringement and demanded $14.40 per device sold.

    The verdict came in shockingly quickly, as the jury was only in deliberation for three days. The jury worked one hour late yesterday and reached a decision at 2:35 PT today. Over 700 individual decisions had to be made by members of the jury, which does not come from particularly technical backgrounds, on their complex worksheets.

    Both Apple and Samsung were given the opportunity to review the document for inconsistencies before the verdict was read. It has been expected since the beginning of this trial that both companies would file appeals regardless of the verdict, so it would be shortsighted to assume that this is the end.

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    http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/24/apple-wins-patent-ruling-as-jury-finds-samsung-infringes/
     
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  2. extremeboy

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    it's bad new for Samung i love both companies as i own both companies devices :D
     
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    oh well
     
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  4. florflor

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    Yeah a verdict in an American court, now there's a surprise lol!

    A European court verdict would be much more interesting and fair.

    Some of these patents are ridiculous. "Tap to zoom"? I mean, come on, how obvious is that! How can you patent something like that? It's ridiculous. Anyone could've thought that up in their dreams, it's not some incredibly Apple invention.
     
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    They are gonna keep appealing this bullshit and drag it out, like always
     
  6. Knoxgates

    Knoxgates Supreme Member

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    Tomorrow they will say holding phone with right hand is their patent. This patent bullshit is going to get companies closed.
     
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    I just saw this! :0

    Is she fucking stupid? $1Billion? Are you fucking serious?

    I'm going to make "walking forward" a patent and sue everyone that walks forward.

    This is complete utter bullshit.
     
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    axus_auto Power Member

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    Who holds the patent for zooming on normal cameras?
     
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    Me.

    We should all make patent jokes :) I'll +2 rep and thank for the top jokes :p
    Let them begin! hehe
     
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    I patent breathing.

    I own all you bitches.

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  11. synfig

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    Sad day. Patent P###y company wins. I wonder when Google is going to join this Patent P###y trolling to get other Search Engines out.
     
  12. dubious

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    Bad news. Samsung have good products with cheap price.
     
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    It was an American court, Apple is an American company. It was with a jury, who does not know anything about it. It's just the corrupt government that wants to help US companies although their product is worse and more expensive.
    But I'm sure that Samsung will appeal to this. Things like this make me glad I don't live in the US.

    I have a patent on walking with 2 legs, if you only use 1 leg each time it's fine, but if I catch you using both legs, I'll sue your ass!
     
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    Somebody owns the patent of using a mouse pointer to navigate on the screen. I shit you not, here is the fucker:

    http://www.google.com/patents/US5635954

    The 1990s onwards was a horrible time for technology patents because judges who are technologically ignorant approve patents; almsot every patent issued at that time almost without doubt have SEVERAL duplicates issued or filed around the same time.

    The only reason why the internet is even usable now is because big companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google etc have paid licensing fe fees for their browsers or acquired the original patents.

    Now they are amassing patents like nuclear warheads for some kind of legal cold war, just as weapons for retaliation in case of 'shots fired'.
     
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    It was fair...
     
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    ...and why would they need to have that case addressed in a european court? I don't see europe having any legitimate interest or justification in this case....in fact, none of the two parties is from europe for that matter....so I really don't see your point in that [​IMG]
     
  18. deviatus

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    I can't believe Samsung had the nerve to make a rectangular phone with rounded edges!!! What a ripoff.
     
  19. ShadeDream

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    Are you fucking stupid?

    Nokia

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    HTC

    [​IMG]

    With your way of thinking we would still be stuck in stone age.
     
  20. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    Oh and if that's the case then I can't believe iPhone had the nerve to copy (HTC's) rectangular PDA's with rounded edges which existed way before the first iPhone was even out. Now that's a rip off.

    The Qtek 2020 and Qtek 9090 (also known as HTC Blue Angel) 2003-2005:

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    Now look at the circular button, looks like Apple copied it! :0
     
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