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Anyone Still Using WPcloaker.com..?

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    imp3ratore Registered Member

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    wordpresscloaker.com, monsterclicks.com, wpcloaker.com are the best things that i know to cloaking page and when wordpresscloaker.com and monsterclicks.com are updating their plugin BUT wpcloaker.com no updating for a year or more i think.

    Are the latest wpcloaker.com plugin is ok to use right now when wpcloaker are not updating their plugin since 1 years ago..?

    Anyone have experience with this things and still using it until now..?

    i have wordpresscloaker too but using wpcloaker is the only cloaker plugin that is very easy to use for me.
     
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    I'm still using it up to WP version 2.9.2.

    Just because a product isn't updated as regular as its competitors doesn't mean it's inferior.

    Why fix something that isn't broken?

    The only thing that needs regular updates with a cloaking script is the botbase.
    For that, I'm using it with my own subscription from Fantomaster.
     
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    I'm using it, with referrer base cloaking
     
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    Still working with wp 3.0..??

    For the spider ip, wpcloaker.com are saving the real visitor ip that coming to our homepage and save it to their database..right ??
     
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    Hmm..For Using wpcloaker.com i actually run 1 domain with 2 blog in it and use wprobot to auto pilot my blog :) , this is my example :

    - mydomain.com ( first blog ) that using wprobot for build content automatically but not using wpcloaker.com in it
    - mydomain.com/cloakerblog/ ( second blog ) that using wprobot too for build content automatically and this time i use wpcloaker.com to cloak this blog.

    uild some links in second blog and direct that link to first blog so that make some linkbuilding. For using 2 blog we are not looking too suspicious and don't forget to make link for first blog that contain to the affiliate link that we are already cloak to second blog for more safety.

    Any review about my method..? Advice maybe ?
     
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    I haven't moved to WP3.0 yet as not all my plugs are compatible with that.

    Don't know exactly what you mean with your 2nd question but I guess you're referring to the Reverse DNS Lookup.
    It doesn't add any found bot IP's to their database. It adds it to your custom spider list within the plugin.

    I'm not using it though, my botbase from Fantomaster is updated all the time.
     
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    In my view the problem here is that you have WH and BH on the same domain.
    Your WH domain will show as the referrer to the merchants but when they investigate your domain, they will find your indexed BH pages.

    I have different setups but I always keep my WH and BH separated.
    In a nutshell: The BH site with WPCLoaker is highly optimized and promoted. I let it redirect to a WH site with the offer or products.
     
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    So we don't need to add spider ip to wpcloaker.com custom spider list like wordpressloaker.com do..?
     
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    I am a little bit confuse with BH style like this :confused: but this is interesting :D :D since i am already doing wh stuff and make some money from it (not much :p about $600-$1500/month) but that is not really important cause i am happy with that right now since my work already have a result :) :) and now i am going to learn some bh style since i want to learn different way and style doing IM.. :D :D ( BTW i am new in IM :) )

    Back to your advice, So..what you mean Here is we set up 2 review page, 1 for the BH site that using wpcloaker and this auto blog site already cloaked with wpcloaker but the review site from BH site are not have the link to our affilite product but to our wh site and from our wh site we have the link to our affiliate product, is that right .?
     
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    Since I started adding affiliate links to my WH sites I was wondering whats the use of affiliake cloaking plugins... Should I use them on WH sites? Whats the goal of it on BH sites anyway? Is it just for users not to see a big URL on the bottom of their browser or something more involving google...?
     
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    exactly... whats the point
     
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    From what I understand the script connects to a spiderdatabase at the WPCloaker server. It would surprise me if that isn't the Fantomaster botbase.
    I use my own Fantomaster subscription because I don't want to rely on external sources.
    On every server where I have cloaked domains I also have an install of the botbase.
    So when the botbase goes down due to a server crash the cloaked sites go down as well and aren't online "unprotected".


    You only add IP's to the custom list if you discover new bots with the reverse DNS.
    I don't use that because it slows things down.
     
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    Yes, that's right.

    BH site -> WH site -> merchant

    The BH cloaked site isn't a review site though. It's all keyword optimized scraped content. Only purpose is to get it ranked high in the SERPS.
    Readabilty? No need, since no human eye ever sees it.

    The WH-site holds the review, presell or products listing. All targeted at getting people to click through.
    I don't spend time promoting it, although sometimes they rank quit well.

    It's great that your setup makes you money. Don't change anything there until you grasp the BH way of settings these things up.
    Like I said...only problem is that it's all on one domain...the WH and the BH. A thorough human review from Google or the merchant might blow your cover and you lose it all.
    No matter how good cloaking scripts and spider-databases are there's always the change of a competitor reporting you. My BH sites are expendable and I keep on building them even if there's enough traffic. Whenever a domain gets de-indexed there's plenty more to keep the traffic coming.
     
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    So where the BH site must go..? use cloaking or redirect ? since the presell or review page are holding by WH site.
     
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    I use redirect. With cloaking the referrer is the BH site and I don't want that.
    I could use other scripts to change the referrer but I don't need that.
    (as a side note...Fantomaster Shadowmaker also redirects)

    The advantage of cloaking is that visitors "remain" on the same domain. But in my experience pushing them to another domain isn't a big deal. Once they land on your WH site you grab their attention with your content/offers.
    Only the savvy ones might be put off by the redirection but believe me...they are a huge minority...:D
    FYI...I'm not in the IM niche...experience levels there are obviously different.
     
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    Hmmm..So you are redirect the BH site to the WH site and not use cloaking that is the safest things so the referer are not looking our bh site..Now i get one more lesson for BH style, Thank's :D...

    And for redirect you are using ip, ua, ip+ua or referer..?
     
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    I identify the search engine bots by IP. Whenever a competitor spoofs the ua they will be none the wiser.

    For the human traffic I either redirect all or use the referrer with keyword to get them to a specific landing-page or site.
     
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    You redirect the traffic with referer...woah playing with referer make me dizzy :confused: :confused:... any advice so i can understand how to play with referer ?? :)
     
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    I don't mean the referrer as in domain...I meant referring keyword.

    I put these in the Custom Landing Page List.

    Like everything form the SERPS with the keyword:

    "vacation" goes to: mydomain.com/vacation-offer
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    "last minute" goes to: mydomain.com/last-minute-vacation-offer
    etc.

    All the traffic goes to mydomain.com but with the custom landing page rules they end up on different pages based on their search.

    The rest of the traffic goes to the standard Landing Page on mydomain.com
     
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    So actually we are using subfolder to targeted the keyword and in that subfolder we are also build review page..actually how many subfolder or maybe keyword that you always targeted..?