anyone here has more than 20 microniche mfas?

A little help with LLC, if you are in the USA, your LLC does not have to be in the same state that you live in. So when you get ready to get an llc then I would suggest checking out Nevada and Wyoming. Their taxes and other benefits make it very worth it to get set up there. Las Vegas of course is much easier to get set up in if you don't live there. You can rent a mail box and have your mail forwarded for a very small fee per month.


great advice on theLLC thank you. if you set up a llc in nevada for example. how would you open up a bank account in nevada without going there.. do you have a service you would recommend.??

also i agree about linkpushing I just signed up for gregs micro niche package but am building a larger site instead of 3 smaller ones. as a test
 
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Great thread, special thanks to fvcktheworld!

Just starting my micro niche empire.

How many sites/earning per adsense account you think is OK?
Different LLCs, but loggin in from the same IPs?
If instead of LLCs opening prepaid cards with mailbox addresses?

fvcktheworld, where do you buy keywords?
 
This is a great thread and thanks to bulger and fvcktheworld for great info. I guess my only question as I'm starting to think about getting into mns is that since I only have one adsense acct, what would be a relatively safe number of sites to use it with?

I really prefer not to get into LLC shit so I guess I could use my wife for a second adsense account but other than her, I'm sort of without resources. And even if I use her, wouldn't g00g see the same banking account info?

Any tips appreciated
 
To those of you who do have more than 20 MFA sites...

1. How long did you spent building the site (including articles, design, etc)
2. Whats the average number of posts on your successful blogs?
3. Do you ever go through them and add a post every now and again?

Thanks!
 
10 sites * 50 articles, provided the content is unique of course.
 
loclhero said:
This is a great thread and thanks to bulger and fvcktheworld for great info. I guess my only question as I'm starting to think about getting into mns is that since I only have one adsense acct, what would be a relatively safe number of sites to use it with?

I really prefer not to get into LLC shit so I guess I could use my wife for a second adsense account but other than her, I'm sort of without resources. And even if I use her, wouldn't g00g see the same banking account info?

Any tips appreciated
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Loclhero,

I do not know the specific number of websites per account that is safe. That would take some testing and I have honestly never done that, so I don't want to lie to you. It would be a good test to run, but you would have to burn through a couple of adsense accounts to actually test it.

What I really go for in terms of how many websites per account is more along the lines of money. I try to keep each account under $1,000 - $1,500 per month. I really think accounts with lower amounts are not inspected as much as other accounts.

Another thing I have to say about it is, with a lot of the websites that I have, not all of them, but most of them, they are unique good content and they also have some other advertising on them, so they are not against adsense tos.

As for the how to have more accounts, I will shoot you a pm.
 
Instead of hundreds if not thousands of domains, wordpress installs, enough hosting to spread them all across etc... I just have a few authority sites covering large niches where I post micro niche articles.

This is so much better for many reasons.

1. A million times easier to maintain. Only having to check analytics for a few sites. Only having to do upgrades for a few sites. The list goes on here... Ya there are tools to help manage mass sites, but thats just more money to fork out.
2. Much much cheaper to maintain.
3. You don't have to worry about keeping the content updated across hundreds of sites. You would be posting new articles each week keeping panda happy.
4. You get authority domains out of the process, that over time become very very strong.
5. Inner page linking becomes stronger and stronger as older posts gain more back links and PR.
6. It looks looks better to Google having authority sites being constantly updated instead of hundreds of MFA micro sites with thin content that are rarely updated.

The list goes on and on. People like EMD's cause they are so easy to rank quickly, but from my experience an authority domain in the same parent niche can rank just as well if not better than an EMD.
 
Well like fvcktheworld already said. It's smart to use family to sign up to adsense. Try reading the thread a bit closer and you'll find the answer.
 
Adsense is one of the reliable source of income that any newbie can have. Great threat. Quite a lot of valuable information.
 
I am up to 80 domains inside my AdSense account mostly MFA sites. I've always been worried that Google would crack down due to the large number of domains but never set up another account.

I'm just starting to clear 2k / month consistently and have noticed a lot more messages from Google in my account. I had one URL disabled for ad display and seem to get more suggested ad formats messages etc

It might be coincidence but would only make sense they monitor big revenue accounts much closer for fraud etc...

However I'm still holding to the belief that if I'm not doing anything wrong I shouldn't have anything to worry about. It may burn me in the end but for now Im convinced the Google is more concerned about click fraud, automated traffic etc. If your really just setting up MFA sites and relying on search you should be ok. If your flipping traffic or start relying on other methods of traffic generation then I would absolutely set up a different account to test the limits.
 
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greyholme can you please post a screenshot?
 
ijof9 said:
greyholme can you please post a screenshot?
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What are you asking for a screen shot of? If it is the adsense account, I highly suggest that no one ever posts a picture of their adsense account. EVER!!!

Just a suggestion though, take it for what you will.
 
A screenshot of one of the websites, sorry, I'm trying to know a little on how exactly:
- you organize your MFA, in categories, what's the depth of the information
- what's the accuracy of the information you provide (are you actually researching the niche?)
- and what's the overall quality of the website, in terms of design and shit
 
Bulger said:
I do own several hunder micro niche websites, I will try my best to answer your questions:

1) around 80% of the yes over ( 350 micro niche sites )
2) average few hundreds ($200) daily
3) It took me around 6 months for all the sites but it's well worth
4) monthly traffic averages beetween 250-400 visits per site

Well I can easily rank 20 sites and add other $20-30 daily to my income which will take me around 5 days to build them and do some SEO. But I still have to wait few days ( months sometimes) for them to rank good in google.

Hope that helps
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AWESOME, this definitely supports my theory that microniche was my way to start. Thank you. If any newbies come across this post, MFA means Made for Adsense... yeah, i had to google it.
 
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fvcktheworld said:
I have way more then 20 Micro Niche type websites, probably around 500, but I would have to count them.

Answers to your questions.
1) Yes a lot of them are in the number 1 position and even more on the first page.
2) On average, from just the micro niche websites I make about $80 - $250 per day, depending on the day. As for the avg per click, it changes quite a bit. I would say between .25 and 2.00.
3) To get all of the websites up, it took me about 3 months. I outsourced some of the work, and also have a small team that I work with. As for getting them to the top in Google, that depends on the backlinking strategy that I followed.

I have about every tool that is available out there for building backlinks, except xrumer (simply because I do not have the time to learn it and I can outsource it for really cheap).

One of my favorite and what I have found to be the quickest way to move a website up the rankings when it is micro niche (or not micro for that matter) is link pushing. Basstrackerboats offers a great service on here, or if you don't have the money to invest you can do some of it yourself.

4) My monthly traffic changes every month. Some of the niches that I have are not as popular as they were when I got the website up. An example would be something that came out a while ago and has lost popularity because something else has came out and replaced the product.

On average each one of my micro niche websites that is on the first page gets between 20 and 150 visits per day.

- One thing with building micro niche websites that you should really think about is that you can build one - 10 page website that can easily rank for a lot of different keyword terms. The easiest way that I think to do this is to build each page as it's very own website when you are optimizing it.

So if you target a micro niche for "King sized sheets" make another page for "Queen sized sheets" and when you build this page, optimize it only for "queen sized sheets". Build backlinks to that page using different anchor text that have to do with queen sized sheets.

I know that is not the best example, but you get what I mean.

Hope that helps to answer some of your questions.

On a closing note - If I were to just be starting this again, I would suggest outsourcing as much as possible. If you outsource the keyword research (probably the most time consuming part of micro niche websites) and the article writing you will be able to put more time into building backlinks. Or outsource the article writing and backlinks and do the keyword research yourself. You will find that it does not take very long at all to put up 20 websites.
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Just a question, how do you manage all 500 MNS? Do you have some kind of software to manage everything? How often do you post?
 
neeka387 said:
AWESOME, this definitely supports my theory that microniche was my way to start. Thank you. If any newbies come across this post, MFA means Made for Adsense... yeah, i had to google it.
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And take note, google hates MFA's. Just my opinion.
 
Four Seasons said:
And take note, google hates MFA's. Just my opinion.
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From AdBrite ToS:
Little or no original content. This includes, but is not limited to:

Scraped content: Sites with content taken from high-quality sources or "Free Article" sites. These are often template or cookie cutter sites.

Auto-generated content: Sites with programmatically generated content. These sites often have random content that is confusing or nonsensical to a site visitor.

Made for ad sites: Sites that primarily consists of only advertisements do not constitute content for a landing page.
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