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anyone here has more than 20 microniche mfas?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ijof9, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. ijof9

    ijof9 Power Member

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    Want to try doing the same shit, like several microniche blogs with paid articles and earn from ads.

    Just need a few thoughts:
    - are you 1st in google (or 1st page) for each one of this 20 microniches?
    - how much you earn? (avg. and avg. cpc)
    - how long did it take you to get them all there? (again, some raw numbers)
    - what's your monthly traffic?
     
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  2. Bulger

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    I do own several hunder micro niche websites, I will try my best to answer your questions:

    1) around 80% of the yes over ( 350 micro niche sites )
    2) average few hundreds ($200) daily
    3) It took me around 6 months for all the sites but it's well worth
    4) monthly traffic averages beetween 250-400 visits per site

    Well I can easily rank 20 sites and add other $20-30 daily to my income which will take me around 5 days to build them and do some SEO. But I still have to wait few days ( months sometimes) for them to rank good in google.

    Hope that helps
     
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  3. SilverMovieDownloads

    SilverMovieDownloads Power Member

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    @Bulger

    do you make $200 daily from each site
    or all together?
     
  4. fvcktheworld

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    I have way more then 20 Micro Niche type websites, probably around 500, but I would have to count them.

    Answers to your questions.
    1) Yes a lot of them are in the number 1 position and even more on the first page.
    2) On average, from just the micro niche websites I make about $80 - $250 per day, depending on the day. As for the avg per click, it changes quite a bit. I would say between .25 and 2.00.
    3) To get all of the websites up, it took me about 3 months. I outsourced some of the work, and also have a small team that I work with. As for getting them to the top in Google, that depends on the backlinking strategy that I followed.

    I have about every tool that is available out there for building backlinks, except xrumer (simply because I do not have the time to learn it and I can outsource it for really cheap).

    One of my favorite and what I have found to be the quickest way to move a website up the rankings when it is micro niche (or not micro for that matter) is link pushing. Basstrackerboats offers a great service on here, or if you don't have the money to invest you can do some of it yourself.

    4) My monthly traffic changes every month. Some of the niches that I have are not as popular as they were when I got the website up. An example would be something that came out a while ago and has lost popularity because something else has came out and replaced the product.

    On average each one of my micro niche websites that is on the first page gets between 20 and 150 visits per day.

    - One thing with building micro niche websites that you should really think about is that you can build one - 10 page website that can easily rank for a lot of different keyword terms. The easiest way that I think to do this is to build each page as it's very own website when you are optimizing it.

    So if you target a micro niche for "King sized sheets" make another page for "Queen sized sheets" and when you build this page, optimize it only for "queen sized sheets". Build backlinks to that page using different anchor text that have to do with queen sized sheets.

    I know that is not the best example, but you get what I mean.

    Hope that helps to answer some of your questions.

    On a closing note - If I were to just be starting this again, I would suggest outsourcing as much as possible. If you outsource the keyword research (probably the most time consuming part of micro niche websites) and the article writing you will be able to put more time into building backlinks. Or outsource the article writing and backlinks and do the keyword research yourself. You will find that it does not take very long at all to put up 20 websites.
     
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  5. Rushdie

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    would you say its better to have 100 sites * 5 articles or 10 sites * 50 articles?
     
  6. ijof9

    ijof9 Power Member

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    Thanks fvcktheworld & Bulger.
    All together looks like heavy tons of work for $2000-$3000/mo.
     
  7. critman

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    All of your sites under one adsense account? Have you ever been warned by adsense? (Since these are MFA sites after all)
     
  8. fvcktheworld

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    I do not have all of my websites under one account. That is one reason for the rounded off answers, it would take me a little while to login into all of them.

    I also have a few authority type websites on a couple of the accounts.

    Don't take my word for it, as I am not Big "G", but one thing that I have found that has helped me out when it comes to "made for adsense" type websites is to also put some cpa offers, amazon products, and cj type offers on there. I have quite a few websites that are all amazon products with an adsense ad at the very top of it, with some reviews written by me or outsourced. So that is not really a made for adsense type website, that is a made for amazon website with an adsense ad on there.

    Also, when it comes to unique useful content for the readers, I make sure that my articles are unique and really do try and answer/help the person that has searched to find something. There is a great article with a little adsense ad at the top of the page.

    Hope that answers your question.
     
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  9. todor

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    Why do you ask this, man? Is there a problem having xxx sites under one adsense account?

    I'm asking because I have similar plan with multiple MNSs...
     
  10. fvcktheworld

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    The biggest problem that I see with it, and I can't say that I have experienced it, but logically thinking, it is not a good idea to put all of your eggs into one basket if you can get away with it.

    If one account gets banned for whatever reason "G" decides to ban you for, then it will not hurt you as bad if you have your earnings spread across a few accounts.

    It is the same as with CPA networks. It is wise to spread your earnings (even if completely whitehat) across a few networks, just in case they find something they don't like that month and you lose your account.

    To honestly be able to say that you are following all of the rules to the "T" on any network that is going to be paying you, is very difficult. They can always find a reason to ban hammer you if they want to.
     
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  11. bluecoyote

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    fvcktheworld

    thanks given!! great posts.. :)

    I myself am just starting out on teh road to learning and building a small adsense empire. lol

    I currently have about 140 sites which was just launched 10 days ago so now am working on offpage seo stuff. my goal is to build an adsense revenue of $10,000 per month.. and then re evaluate once i get there.

    I have 3 questions that I am hoping you would be willing to answer.

    1. having multiple accounts. how many accounts would you recommend having and what is your best strategy in doing this safely? I was thinking about setting up seperate LLC for each adsense account. which would be the more expensive option but seems to be the safest.

    2. your day to day operations regarding managing the volume of sites.. I am using rank tracker.. and have the keywords in 50 blocks for right now. but I am sure you have some good ideas of managing these.

    my personal strategy going into this will be paretos principle 80/20 using a specific preset guideline building out the sites then do some offpage seo stuff and see which ones become performers.. which will be around 20% then expand the 20% and build another 100.. and so on.

    I think adsense is got to be the closest you can get to the perfect type of business.. except like you mention you cannot have to many eggs in one basket.

    3. I have a subscription to article samurai which i am about to use.. but they have a network of 50,000 which is the largest I have come across.

    what I wanted to do is take all the articles that I have had written and spin them to submit to that network all for the backlinks. this seems to be a excellent whitehat type of linkbuilding..

    what are your favorite strategies

    thanks again for your time

    bluecoyote
     
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    Hi, Bulger, can you share your strategy in details here? or PM me personally if you do, thanks :)
     
  13. jaerehan

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    It isnt a bad idea, setting up an LLC (depends on your country) would cost a few hundred dollars, monthly cost lets say its $100. Invoicing everything into your main LLC to spare tax on the companies and only pay tax on your main LLC.
     
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    i like your thinking about the LLC tax strategy. :)

    btw i was curious if buying pvs facebook accounts and attaching them to some of the better performing MFAs would that help seo wise???
     
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    Yea, depends on your country you can spare a lot of headache + money on tax. Using legit adsense accounts lets say 100 sites/LLC for $100/ month and the initial investment not bad on the long run.

    You could make a fan page for them and / or make public notes with some articles for backlins maybe...?.
     
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    Hey guys great post with lots of valuable information.

    thanks
     
  17. Bulger

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    Well I wish, All the sites together averages $200 daily, not only 1 site.

    Well I would go with 100 sites * 5 articles, Why ? - because their are few different factors. I build only micro niche sites that are optimized for either adsense or amazon. It's easier for me to get low competition keyword and get
    to the goal of $1 per day per site. That's just my own opinion

    Well their is no really a strategy, little offpage SEO and low competition keywords can get you to where I am now with adsense.

    Hope that helps

    Have a great day
     
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    Hey,
    can I ask how you manage all your sites?
    Update some plugins, add new articles (do you add new content?) and so on..

    Thanks
     
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    Hello,
    Bulger, how much is your's little offpage SEO ???
     
  20. fvcktheworld

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    1. having multiple accounts. how many accounts would you recommend having and what is your best strategy in doing this safely? I was thinking about setting up seperate LLC for each adsense account. which would be the more expensive option but seems to be the safest.

    Answer - I personally have accounts set up with LLCs and Also family members that will never use adsense because they don't have a clue what it is. I just throw them a little money every month.

    A little help with LLC, if you are in the USA, your LLC does not have to be in the same state that you live in. So when you get ready to get an llc then I would suggest checking out Nevada and Wyoming. Their taxes and other benefits make it very worth it to get set up there. Las Vegas of course is much easier to get set up in if you don't live there. You can rent a mail box and have your mail forwarded for a very small fee per month.

    2. your day to day operations regarding managing the volume of sites.. I am using rank tracker.. and have the keywords in 50 blocks for right now. but I am sure you have some good ideas of managing these.

    Answer - I do outsource a lot of this now. Because managing a lot of websites is much more difficult then even what I thought it would be. My fiance is great help. At first when I was getting started, I put all of my sites into magic submitter. With the designer mode it really helped me keep track of everything.

    When I am going to build 10 new websites I make sure and put everything into an excel spread sheet so that I can keep track of everything.

    On a side note, I also use different hosting companies and have SEO type hosting and a couple of reseller accounts, because I have a networks of websites for backlinks and also sell micro niche websites, but that is another subject. If you do something like this though, you can build some really strong backlinks to your websites from other websites of your own.


    3. I have a subscription to article samurai which i am about to use.. but they have a network of 50,000 which is the largest I have come across.

    what I wanted to do is take all the articles that I have had written and spin them to submit to that network all for the backlinks. this seems to be a excellent whitehat type of linkbuilding..

    what are your favorite strategies

    My favorite strategies for building backlinks, is honestly to outsource. If I were to choose one method of backlinking that I have found to be the most useful it would be linkpushing.

    Have you ever used magic submitter before? If not they have a free trial. I highly suggest it as it is probably my favorite tool. It can only run 3 threads at once, and I wish there was a better captcha solving service on it, but honestly those are my only two complaints.


    I hope that answers your questions and helps you and some others out.

    The hardest part is taking the first steps towards action. The second hardest part is sticking with it until you succeed.

    Good Luck
     
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