Anyone else making money streaming with Spotify?

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streamkite said:
I'm interested in talking to anyone else who earns money from streaming their songs on Spotify. I've been doing it a couple of years now and making a nice chunk of change with it. Obviously we don't need to discuss specific numbers or details, but it's always good to meet other people involved with the same thing as you are.
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Hello I want to start too with spotify but I have still few issues how to start can you maybe help me?
 
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Despite the fact I don't like the whole idea that black hatters are slowly going to artistic side, I could offer professional music production.
I have at least 4 producers under my belt which I work with.


in spotify and everywhere else, you have to be unique. copyrights will find you and shut you down sooner or later. it's just a matter of time. i work in the industry and making a living out of events/marketing/management - %%, of course. It is really hard for a decent artist to gain that following which would pay off (solely on Spotify i.e.)
If the name is not so big - main income comes from side projects & gigs.
However, good luck every one of you and have fun!
 
streamkite said:
What sort of issues?
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I don't know how to get so much spotify premium accounts and free accounts that's my first problem.
The second problem is how can I let all this accounts play my music the same time?
And I wanted to ask you which distribution service you use?

It would be great if you can help me with that.
 
nibnadel said:
I don't know how to get so much spotify premium accounts and free accounts that's my first problem.
The second problem is how can I let all this accounts play my music the same time?
And I wanted to ask you which distribution service you use?
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You can create the free accounts easily enough, and you can probably buy the premium accounts if you're not able to create them yourself. You need a bot to play the tracks.

I use DistroKid & RouteNote. Tunecore is also good.
 
streamkite said:
You can create the free accounts easily enough, and you can probably buy the premium accounts if you're not able to create them yourself. You need a bot to play the tracks.

I use DistroKid & RouteNote. Tunecore is also good.
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Is it not dangerous to use distrokid because they are directly connected with spotify.

Can you recommend me someone who makes spotify bots?
 
Thanks for sharing your experience with monetizing Spotify! I'm really interested in your future paid service 'cause I've got original music that needs promotion (and revenue of course). Do you think buying plays on spoti and sending them to my current tracks will get me any money?
 
streamkite said:
You're right. It doesn't work. Using a custom bot with a mix of premium and free accounts, residential proxies, unique device fingerprints, randomized song play times, adding saves and followers, and sticking to known safe limits does not work at all.
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I am very interested in the technical details of this as some of what you are saying doesn't add up.

A large enough residential proxy pool to support 10,000 accounts and have them look unique would be quite expensive (Lum proxies), unless of course you are creating the proxies yourself.

I would assume that you're streaming through a web browser versus the actual spotify app itself. If this is the case then how are you automating the browser itself? All you said was python.

What method are you using to track and select which account selects which song at what time on what day?

Are you using a web driver, raw requests (doubtful) or automating the win desktop itself?

I sincerely am not trying to trash your thread but I am doubting the validity of what you are saying based on the information provided.
 
treyallover said:
I sincerely am not trying to trash your thread but I am doubting the validity of what you are saying based on the information provided.
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And that's the whole point. Obviously I am going to be somewhat vague on the technical details of the bot. The title of the thread says it all. I was/am looking to chat with people doing the same thing as I am, and if you read through the thread you will see a few other people obviously are, and I guarantee they will also be vague on the technical aspects of their bot. I've answered a lot of questions in the thread and a lot more via PM, but I'm not going to give away the golden goose.

I am neither streaming using a regular web browser or the official Spotify app. The time of day is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if someone from the UK is streaming in the afternoon or someone from Germany is streaming at 3am. As far as proxies go, there are many providers of residential proxies if you know where to look.

Anyway, you're free to doubt anything or everything I've said.
 
streamkite said:
And that's the whole point. Obviously I am going to be somewhat vague on the technical details of the bot. The title of the thread says it all. I was/am looking to chat with people doing the same thing as I am, and if you read through the thread you will see a few other people obviously are, and I guarantee they will also be vague on the technical aspects of their bot. I've answered a lot of questions in the thread and a lot more via PM, but I'm not going to give away the golden goose.

I am neither streaming using a regular web browser or the official Spotify app. The time of day is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if someone from the UK is streaming in the afternoon or someone from Germany is streaming at 3am. As far as proxies go, there are many providers of residential proxies if you know where to look.

Anyway, you're free to doubt anything or everything I've said.
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And I believe that people are making money from this currently. But I do not believe that you are doing it at the scale of which you claim.

You can't use random proxies from multiple countries tied to the same account. One day you have a login from germany to account #1 from isp abc, and the next day you have a login from USA to account #1 from isp xyz? This means you would have to use a static residential proxy and at the very least a dynamic proxy from the same isp to login to the same account over and over.

Unless of course, you're using 4G/LTE, which I highly doubt given the fact that you've stated that you're purchasing these versus just making them yourself.

You aren't giving away the "golden goose" by sharing publicly available techniques for mass management of accounts.

I'll give you an example and allow you the opportunity to prove legitimacy.

What database are you using to manage your 10k accounts, and what method are you using to select a specific account at random from this database?

How are you tracking account selection so as not to overlap?

Paste a specific piece of code for selecting the account from your DB.

Hell, paste any code for doing this and I'll believe you. It doesn't even have to be your code from your bot.
 
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Hey OP thanks for all your answers so far.

My question is, wouldnt it be a way more lucrative to promote other artists? Do you have any experience with this?
 
streamkite said:
A few thousand a month, so a decent side income, or enough to live on depending on where you live and your lifestyle. I also sell streams but that's a separate income.



I have custom software I coded. The accounts are a mix of premium and free, all tied to various socks5 proxies.

I don't make the music myself, I have someone I buy tracks from. They're just EDM beats without lyrics. I can help you out with advice if you get rejected again. Quite often it's not the track itself but the artwork (song cover) that makes it obvious you're not a "real" artist. You need to make the cover high quality and make sure you have the track name and artist name on there to make it look legit, just like a real artist would.
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Do you use a service like distrokid. Would be interested to know more on buying tracks as i do similar with kdp for kindle books and i see it as a very similar thing to operate
 
nibnadel said:
Is it not dangerous to use distrokid because they are directly connected with spotify.
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You need to use a distributor to get your songs on to Spotify. DistroKid is a good one with a yearly fee rather than a fee charged per track/album.

treyallover said:
And I believe that people are making money from this currently. But I do not believe that you are doing it at the scale of which you claim.
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I'm very upset you don't believe me. I don't really know how I'm going to go on.

I never said I buy proxies, and I never said I didn't. I also never said an account would be streaming from one location one day and a completely different country the next. That does tend to get the account closed rather quickly. You asked about time of day and I was answering that specifically. Perhaps there are accounts that only ever use German proxies, and perhaps there others that only ever use US ones...

It does not benefit me in the slightest to paste any code here, and I don't have anything to prove to you. I have no clue why you seem to think it's my duty or obligation to answer all your technical questions. This is not a Marketplace thread, and even there, I don't see anyone demanding to see code from someone selling Instagram or Twitch services or whatever. Bizarre.

I am comparing notes with other people doing this regarding distributors, payouts, levels regarding followers to streams, etc, etc.
 
streamkite said:
You need to use a distributor to get your songs on to Spotify. DistroKid is a good one with a yearly fee rather than a fee charged per track/album.



I'm very upset you don't believe me. I don't really know how I'm going to go on.

I never said I buy proxies, and I never said I didn't. I also never said an account would be streaming from one location one day and a completely different country the next. That does tend to get the account closed rather quickly. You asked about time of day and I was answering that specifically. Perhaps there are accounts that only ever use German proxies, and perhaps there others that only ever use US ones...

It does not benefit me in the slightest to paste any code here, and I don't have anything to prove to you. I have no clue why you seem to think it's my duty or obligation to answer all your technical questions. This is not a Marketplace thread, and even there, I don't see anyone demanding to see code from someone selling Instagram or Twitch services or whatever. Bizarre.

I am comparing notes with other people doing this regarding distributors, payouts, levels regarding followers to streams, etc, etc.
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I believe you created this account to try and sell a product, not "converse with others about spotify". You aren't running 10k spotify accounts right now.

It's more BS on this forum that you're perpetuating. Nonsense.
 
treyallover said:
I believe you created this account to try and sell a product, not "converse with others about spotify". You aren't running 10k spotify accounts right now.

It's more BS on this forum that you're perpetuating. Nonsense.
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I don't think @streamkite is trying to sell or promote any products. I've asked him numerous questions and he has provided extremely good insight thus far
 
mr_helium said:
I don't think @streamkite is trying to sell or promote any products. I've asked him numerous questions and he has provided extremely good insight thus far
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Thank you. As have at least a dozen other people via the thread or PM's and I've helped them all as best I can. Mainly questions about which distributors are safer, safe stream limits, song info, etc. Occasionally someone asks me about the bot, but so far only one person has been butthurt when I wouldn't answer questions about it how it works.

Here's 5 minutes of one account via Spotify for Artists:

https://streamable.com/0dd4a

Enjoy.
 
streamkite said:
Thank you. As have at least a dozen other people via the thread or PM's and I've helped them all as best I can. Mainly questions about which distributors are safer, safe stream limits, song info, etc. Occasionally someone asks me about the bot, but so far only one person has been butthurt when I wouldn't answer questions about it how it works.

Here's 5 minutes of one account via Spotify for Artists:

https://streamable.com/0dd4a

Enjoy.
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Think you can respond to my questions regarding infrastructure in your PMs? :D
 
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