Any emigration plans?

Billy Batts · Aug 21, 2017

BassTrackerBoats said:
I don't get that at all from this thread and I've been following it from the inception... I find it rather interesting some of the thought processes and ideas on what people prefer when it comes to where and how they prefer to live.

The OP could pony up 400K, buy a nice house on a beautiful lake in Florida on a decent sized lot and never look back but he thinks there would be issues staying in the USA long term.

I don't know how that works with Visas and all that but we have Canadians that come down here for 6 months a year to get out of the cold in the winter and there are no issues. I'm pretty sure most do not move here full time due to some of the benefits they receive as a Canadian citizen living in Canada.

Believe me, I would love to, the US has always been my favorite, I've always missed certain cities since I'm gone, NY, Miami, Austin (my favorite)

When it comes to nature it has everything, the language is easy and the Dutch do very well with people.

Even though without the Dutch there wouldn't be NY visa rules are very difficult and after 9/11 even harder.

400k looks insanely far away, I've been poor most of my adult life so it's hard to imagine I could ever reach such an vast amount.

But will keep on trying and hope to make it someday.

Suntranslation said:
As for me, I happend to live in the most controversial country of the last two years (At least) the funniest thing is that Venezuela is BEAUTIFUL, warm, has a little bit of everything, beaches, montains, deserts, wild forest. But unfortunately the culture and its political and economical issues has distroy a lot of the beauty. Most of us HAVE to think eventually about leaving, and the first country with think has to be whithin latin america just for the international agreements, and helph you can get.

But definetly is hard to just take your bags and abandon your properties, family and friends

I would love to visit, Argentina for the arquitecture, landscaping, and climate. Miami is very interesting for me that Im use to an specifiuc type of music, food and people warmness, which in miami can be very similar to it, with the plus of a much better value bill $ and lots of tourist

I was in Caracas in 1999 and got food poisoning from some meat, worst pain ever but the people that took care for me helping to get medicine were very friendly.

I love the Latin culture!

Leaving family and friends is the easy part for me, no family and even though I hang out with many people I wouldn't stay behind for any of them.

BassTrackerBoats · Aug 21, 2017

Billy_Batts said:
Believe me, I would love to, the US has always been my favorite, I've always missed certain cities since I'm gone, NY, Miami, Austin (my favorite)

When it comes to nature it has everything, the language is easy and the Dutch do very well with people.

Even though without the Dutch there wouldn't be NY visa rules are very difficult and after 9/11 even harder.

400k looks insanely far away, I've been poor most of my adult life so it's hard to imagine I could ever reach such an vast amount.

But will keep on trying and hope to make it someday.

You've made money in the past based on the knowledge of where you have been... you can clearly make money.

I've lived in Miami but would not live there now as it is too humid but I love to visit it due to the culture and food.

NYC is the BEST place on earth to visit but it is 600 - 800 a day to vacation up there at minimum and well worth it in my opinion.

I've never been to Austin or anywhere else in Texas but Austin and El Paso would be great places to visit although I think with my Northern USA accent I'd have to mumble to not get kicked out of every restaurant in those cities.

Billy Batts · Aug 21, 2017

BassTrackerBoats said:
You've made money in the past based on the knowledge of where you have been... you can clearly make money.

I've lived in Miami but would not live there now as it is too humid but I love to visit it due to the culture and food.

NYC is the BEST place on earth to visit but it is 600 - 800 a day to vacation up there at minimum and well worth it in my opinion.

I've never been to Austin or anywhere else in Texas but Austin and El Paso would be great places to visit although I think with my Northern USA accent I'd have to mumble to not get kicked out of every restaurant in those cities.

Gheghe my accent always work as a magnet to everybody, I didn't even had to anything, everywhere I go I was just minding my business ordering a drink, someone picks up the accent, comes over and buys me drinks all night haha. I had the craziest nights when I was in the US.

I don't know what it is about NYC, I've been there only 2 days because I was on my way to Texas (I took a greyhound

) but I landed in NJ and took a motel then took the train and I was in no time in NYC. The train stopped under Madison Square Guarden, I remember the first time, I came out of the underground, walked around the corner and just enjoyed the view and the first thing I bought was a New York hot dog hahaha, I also got scammed in some phone store, they sold me a crappy phone that didn't recharge and they told me they put $40 prepaid on it which was BS also

but I was a lot younger back then and looked like a fucking tourist.

Ever since until now I dream about NYC regularly, literally dozens of dreams me just roaming the city, the harbors and every time I wake up feeling pissed off I'm here. I wouldn't have to live in NYC as long as a subway or train is nearby to take me there I would be happy.

Now Austin is the town I feel at home, tattoos, live music, sports, bars, 6th street it has a very freely vibe to it the only downside for me was that in the summer it's warm AF! But besides that, if someone would offer an opportunity to go there and I had to start with nothing, being homeless again, I would do it!

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

yo Dutchie....Guess it hurts to live in overcrowded country where rude immigrants exploited your mentality, and how you look down at them, makes them even more frustrated and angry at you ? ha ha.
seriously I lived in like 6 countries (means = over 3 months in each one, in some of them i stayed for years) in last 7 years and I may tell you that - the more you travel the more you see that there is no perfect place... House is born inside your head, nowhere else...
I am from Eastern Europe (always considered it central, but now I see its more eastern...long story), I consider it too retarded, with sad, angry, and frustrated xenophobic people, thats all.
I lived also outside Europe for over 2 years, 1,5 from that in carribean..which was fun & noisy

from EU my favorite country is Spain I guess for many reasons, also for those that these boats with migrants are actually welcomed and not hated and despited [ btw. - usually the immigrants that make problems in Spain are not black, but guess from which countr they are...]. Simply - I like southern mentality (but still - I consider Greeks as extreme southerners, too lazy, seriously...long story also)..Just came back from Balkans, wont tell you where exactly, maybe PM< but found some nice spots there

many many places... depends what you want. one tip: if you can see beauty of this world and you are not bitter fuck, you wll be happy anywhere. if opposite - you wont be happy nowhere

darulez · Aug 22, 2017

BassTrackerBoats said:
I don't get that at all from this thread and I've been following it from the inception... I find it rather interesting some of the thought processes and ideas on what people prefer when it comes to where and how they prefer to live.
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No, it's hidden. as A resident in middle of the 2015 starting crisis, I can feel everything and people dont express is loudly cause of BHW rulez, which I think, sadly, is ok.

let me explain sth, to make it clear a bit: however, a Iraqi friend, who aver having a Master in Engeneerin and some "I dont wantto know how much salary" took close to 10 years to Get Germoney Citizenship.. He is a cood dude with positive aura. Now, after that 2015 crisis people are not that welcoming at all to him..

darulez · Aug 22, 2017

Suntranslation said:
As for me, I happend to live in the most controversial country of the last two years (At least) the funniest thing is that Venezuela is BEAUTIFUL, warm, has a little bit of everything, beaches, montains, deserts, wild forest. But unfortunately the culture and its political and economical issues has distroy a lot of the beauty. Most of us HAVE to think eventually about leaving, and the first country with think has to be whithin latin america just for the international agreements, and helph you can get.

But definetly is hard to just take your bags and abandon your properties, family and friends

(>au pair in germany. ) > save 10k > study here, > work aside part time, lay low. > finish study > find job. live a decent life.

I met a TON of international women, who do that. I somehow have to conclude, that MALES seem to not get that either chance or idea or still cling to a dangerous land .

KHer0 · Aug 22, 2017

Billy_Batts said:
I think you should look up the term racism before bringing it up and while at it research the difference between hate and personal preference.

Also a pretty strange statement "trying to run from" I'm not trying to run from anything I just don't like where I am living.

You could have lived in most European countries with "your" religion but as it sounds you are not from the EU so how were you planning to become legal? The EU has many laws and rules.

You don't like hot weather but want to go to Turkey? I've been to Turkey several times and it can be pretty hot in the summer but it does have nice nature, couple of my Turkish friends have properties with exactly the things you describe but it is getting more expensive though so you should hurry up.

I speak English but its not my native language, so, many times I choose the wrong word.

I live in Egypt, summer here is 42' c, so, I believe turkey should be acceptable. Religion is very important to me, and during the events the world goes on, there is a huge (understandable) fear towards it thanks for the media, movies, terrorism, world war in the area and the ignorance of some world leader. Their talks encourages hate toward other races. ( Any mod can adjust this if it corsses any line

)

So, I am living in one of the worst places in the world, imagine V for Vandetta film and you will exactly where I live right now. I have huge trouble transferring my money here cuz I am 75% sure I might get arrested cuz they just want my money

. Egypt is the latest in education, health and one of the top in poverty. So, surviving everyday here is a battle. There are places for rich people, but you won't stand how their mind works. I don't want to go in details cuz this is not the right thread for it.

Anyway, most of Arabian countries are in the same boat or even worse, others are just deserts ...etc. And there is the phobia I mentioned in Europe countries. So, the choices are very limited. I believe I am limited to Malaysia, Indonesia and Turkey. Turkey is the closest and looks like it have every this I am looking for. Then, there a huge problems between my country and Turkey which means if I traveled there, I will be in great danger every time I come back to Egypt to visit my relatives

Hope this cleared things up and shed some light on the situation. I am preparing to leave within 1 - 2 years at most, so I have to limit my choices

BassTrackerBoats said:
I don't get that at all from this thread and I've been following it from the inception... I find it rather interesting some of the thought processes and ideas on what people prefer when it comes to where and how they prefer to live.

The OP could pony up 400K, buy a nice house on a beautiful lake in Florida on a decent sized lot and never look back but he thinks there would be issues staying in the USA long term.

In an old thread about the same topic, there was this island in india that looks like bali. It has everything and many IM'ers from BHW liked it back then. It looks like Maldives and Bali but very cheap with good internet and relaxing life. You might want to check it. It looked like a wonderful place for a single man.

I don't know how that works with Visas and all that but we have Canadians that come down here for 6 months a year to get out of the cold in the winter and there are no issues. I'm pretty sure most do not move here full time due to some of the benefits they receive as a Canadian citizen living in Canada.

My first answer wasn't clear, so, I shed some more light on it Greg

I have many Egyptian friends (most of them) live in USA and swear by it. But, I think security there is very tight, you have tons of 3 letters names for everything possible. I can't use torrent, image copyrights, movie copyright, deep web, taxes ...etc. Everything has a specialized department and law for it. It's very easy to get fucked up without knowing.

I am from a place where you can do anything you can imagine and get away with it without money. Money is above law

. Not to mention the current president which makes it a very stressful place for people like me. Although I believe USA is the only place where you can find the whole world in one place. Nightlife, nature, corporations, business, snow, heat, w/e you want will be there

If I would go to somewhere like USA, Canada would be a better choice. A more chill-out relaxed people, good life and friendly government.

KHer0 · Aug 22, 2017

darulez said:
No, it's hidden. as A resident in middle of the 2015 starting crisis, I can feel everything and people dont express is loudly cause of BHW rulez, which I think, sadly, is ok.

let me explain sth, to make it clear a bit: however, a Iraqi friend, who aver having a Master in Engeneerin and some "I dont wantto know how much salary" took close to 10 years to Get Germoney Citizenship.. He is a cood dude with positive aura. Now, after that 2015 crisis people are not that welcoming at all to him..

Lol, you keep on surprising me with every post @darulez

Just to let it go in order not to ruin the thread, with all the media, hype and stuff going right now, it's totally understandable

Billy Batts · Aug 22, 2017

KHer0 said:
I speak English but its not my native language, so, many times I choose the wrong word.

I live in Egypt, summer here is 42' c, so, I believe turkey should be acceptable. Religion is very important to me, and during the events the world goes on, there is a huge (understandable) fear towards it thanks for the media, movies, terrorism, world war in the area and the ignorance of some world leader. Their talks encourages hate toward other races. ( Any mod can adjust this if it corsses any line )

So, I am living in one of the worst places in the world, imagine V for Vandetta film and you will exactly where I live right now. I have huge trouble transferring my money here cuz I am 75% sure I might get arrested cuz they just want my money . Egypt is the latest in education, health and one of the top in poverty. So, surviving everyday here is a battle. There are places for rich people, but you won't stand how their mind works. I don't want to go in details cuz this is not the right thread for it.

Anyway, most of Arabian countries are in the same boat or even worse, others are just deserts ...etc. And there is the phobia I mentioned in Europe countries. So, the choices are very limited. I believe I am limited to Malaysia, Indonesia and Turkey. Turkey is the closest and looks like it have every this I am looking for. Then, there a huge problems between my country and Turkey which means if I traveled there, I will be in great danger every time I come back to Egypt to visit my relatives

Hope this cleared things up and shed some light on the situation. I am preparing to leave within 1 - 2 years at most, so I have to limit my choices

My first answer wasn't clear, so, I shed some more light on it Greg

I have many Egyptian friends (most of them) live in USA and swear by it. But, I think security there is very tight, you have tons of 3 letters names for everything possible. I can't use torrent, image copyrights, movie copyright, deep web, taxes ...etc. Everything has a specialized department and law for it. It's very easy to get fucked up without knowing.

I am from a place where you can do anything you can imagine and get away with it without money. Money is above law . Not to mention the current president which makes it a very stressful place for people like me. Although I believe USA is the only place where you can find the whole world in one place. Nightlife, nature, corporations, business, snow, heat, w/e you want will be there

If I would go to somewhere like USA, Canada would be a better choice. A more chill-out relaxed people, good life and friendly government.

Well, as people that know me already know, I don't get influenced by the media or wordleaders, I get influenced by experienced and I got plenty worldwide as in my own country and continent.

I rarely say shit I haven't researched before or have experience with unless I am drunk, high or both which currently I'm detoxing from.

Now let's talk about your country, very special history and yes, over the past decade it has become a mess and why? Religion!

Now I'm not going into detail about religion but IMO every country should have stuck with their own religion and if it were up to me, even though Jesus Christ is the man in my book the world probably would have been better off without religions.

That's why I search for a certain demographic because I am sick and tired of several religions discussing, fighting over bullshit day in and day out.

So you got your reasons to look for a certain demographic and I got mine

About turkey, don't think they don't discriminate, see I'm from mixed blood, I get along with everyone even though some of them hate each other's guts.

I know a lot of Turks and with exceptions here and there they don't like Arabs very much.

So, in conclusion, if you want to go into detail about religion please do not so in this thread you can send me a PM.

And to keep it OT I suggest a country you might enjoy and you haven't thought off yet, Bosnia.

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

yeah for sure. land of sad frustrated self hating xenophobic troglodites, Russians by 50 % that will never admit that they are 50 % Russians

vinku said:
...so probably your decision came from politics mixed with religion, of course it's not allowed on this forum. However, I invite you to Poland - nobody gave you this solution.
We prefer to start a war with Germany than get a single one engineer or doctor from you know where
We are in Schengen, come to look, walk our streets, I can guarantee - it's refreshing after years in your "leftist paradise"

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

I suggest turning off the TV that you are watching.......

vinku said:
Maybe you can observe some bad news about us in your TV - yeah, it's propaganda.

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

nice indeed, similar to Bulgarian Sozopol, but on the lake, not sea and bigger

BufferOver said:
Also Macedonia (place where i live) is a cheap place Normal monthly salary is 150-250 eu, so with 1k eu you live here pretty much comfortable life. Ohrid is very nice town.

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

and you are..self hating Serb !

JovanMKD said:
Whatever you do stay away from Balkans. It's all puppet countries adopting the same shitty politics from west and life is miserable. You know those hospitals from horror movies? Those are reality here, stinky dark and looking abandoned.

Lukmat · Aug 22, 2017

ronin28 said:
yeah for sure. land of sad frustrated self hating xenophobic troglodites, Russians by 50 % that will never admit that they are 50 % Russians

because Poles are not Russians 100% in genetics, we are Slavs and even more Germans than current Germans, learn and then insult.... btw. I am going to report you now for insult nation

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

how about mentality and levels of agression ?

will it be just 50 % or 100 % of .ru? :>

vinku said:
because Poles are not Russians 100% in genetics, we are Slavs and even more Germans than current Germans, learn and then insult.... btw. I am going to report you now for insult nation

ronin28 · Aug 22, 2017

the real religion of Jesus was LOVE !
Listen to Jesus, Dutchie !

Billy_Batts said:
even though Jesus Christ is the man in my book the world probably would have been better off without religions.

That's why I search for a certain demographic because I am sick and tired of several religions discussing, fighting over bullshit day in and day out.
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Lukmat · Aug 22, 2017

ronin28 said:
how about mentality and levels of agression ?
will it be just 50 % or 100 % of .ru? :>

If your beloved country would be occupied by Russians for 70 years, then it's not cool saying you are Russian. (btw. thx for USA, UK, France, CCCP and Jalta) - know history or go back to school kid.
Poland is country with 1000 years history and nation was here for 2000 years. How long your country exist? Poles are genetic mix for long times, we are Germans, Slavs, Vikings, some of course Russians.
Russians are Slavs, Turks, Asians. There is no 100% clean nation.

Billy Batts · Aug 22, 2017

ronin28 said:
yo Dutchie....Guess it hurts to live in overcrowded country where rude immigrants exploited your mentality, and how you look down at them, makes them even more frustrated and angry at you ? ha ha.
seriously I lived in like 6 countries (means = over 3 months in each one, in some of them i stayed for years) in last 7 years and I may tell you that - the more you travel the more you see that there is no perfect place... House is born inside your head, nowhere else...
I am from Eastern Europe (always considered it central, but now I see its more eastern...long story), I consider it too retarded, with sad, angry, and frustrated xenophobic people, thats all.
I lived also outside Europe for over 2 years, 1,5 from that in carribean..which was fun & noisy
from EU my favorite country is Spain I guess for many reasons, also for those that these boats with migrants are actually welcomed and not hated and despited [ btw. - usually the immigrants that make problems in Spain are not black, but guess from which countr they are...]. Simply - I like southern mentality (but still - I consider Greeks as extreme southerners, too lazy, seriously...long story also)..Just came back from Balkans, wont tell you where exactly, maybe PM< but found some nice spots there
many many places... depends what you want. one tip: if you can see beauty of this world and you are not bitter fuck, you wll be happy anywhere. if opposite - you wont be happy nowhere

Yo east blocky, I don't look down at immigrants even though I get accused of it in my own country for being realistic plus only a very small percentage were fleeing from war.

You just can't import millions of people without having any plan. It will break economies and it will definitely fuck up how people are treating each other. I am born, raised and currently live again in a city with 192 nationalities, everything is cramped and instead of people just fucking accept others way of living they trying to enforce each other's religions and lifestyle and I'm becoming too old for that type of bullshit.

I've been happy in many countries but never really in my own that's why I am leaving here. I want to put myself in a situation that I am alone surround by my pets and animals and If I choose to look up people I will instead of the other way around

But you will have always people turning it into something else.

And when people start using made up words like xenofobic I already know which direction this topic is going and read some insults among people already.

Guess it was bound to happen sooner or later.

@BassTrackerBoats @Zwielicht you can close this thread. It was fun and informative but it done serving its purpose.

Paranoid Android · Aug 22, 2017

Europeans usually settle down in Thailand.

Lukmat · Aug 22, 2017

No

don't call them to close, I want them to check and punish this guy

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