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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by donkey-kong, Jul 29, 2017.

  1. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    so I did the usual now that I got a new client and started building some pbn to high standard - web standard. Some I used content from wayback even rebuilt the website identical but haven't seen a problem before. I haven't been 100% selective about these but they are overall clean backlink profiles and pretty niche related - some had previous 301 (might be issue), and I've just put my links on once the sites built. Top of bing for most search but google range from 5-60. Anyone else seen this? The money site content is bang on, no one better in the same niche and on page seo is spot on.

    My gut feeling is leave the links, treat all the sites I got like traffic driving sites - real sites that add value to a user who finds themselves there, add good content and it'll pull out of a filter/sandbox eventually. Logic dictates google cannot penalize a site for thinking it might be gamed forever, when new content and well looked after, attractive, user friendly site point to the contrary.

    A bit of research on a blog showed me others are seeing issues with quick link placement but this lads recommending breaking those links. In my case they are MS links I highly doubt hasty decision such as pulling those waiting a month and popping another link on with a new post is a smart move. It goes against everything google tries to stand for - no?

    Would love someone who has gone through this test of being hasty link placing and seen the links appreciate in value, as I am certain they will.

    Cheers
     
  2. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    ask a good question no one has an answer, or willing to share decent info, I wonder what was the point of this forum, if not that.
     
  3. kittykut

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    Is English your native? I don't think anyone can understand your question.
     
  4. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    You don't like a little read or not factual enough? Here this might help:

    Scenario:

    - new client
    - made new pbns as didn't have any for this niche
    - pbn rebuilt from wayback to exactly replicate old website including styling (I invest heavily in quality because I intend the websites to produce me money at a later date),
    - Or new content website to match existing backlink profile 6/7 pages 2/3 blog posts, no thin content 500-800 word all pages posts.
    - overall clean back link profiles, but some urls were previous 301s before expiring. Absolutely never spammed though, none of the urls.

    Currently:
    - Bing top of almost all searches
    - google currently 5 - 60

    Research:
    - Some suggest placing links on pbns too quickly causing rank drops not increases on google
    - Some suggest pull link and wait a month or two - I disagree that's trashy tactics - opinions?

    Conclusion:

    Should I pull links and wait a month or two or treat the websites well, leave the links in place, and add new content and hope the links placed come out of some algorithm filter google is clearly placing on them.

    Information request:

    Has anyone seen negative results of their pbn initially, that should of been positive, and then subsequently left the links, added new posts, and developed the website (pbn if you want to call it that), and seen the link come out of filter producing proper expected link equity?

    If I missed anything feel free to ask.

    Additional info of relevance.

    - Money Site URL 20 years old never been used until 3 months ago, highest value domain in the specific niche.
    - Pages approx 20 - all range in size from 1500 words to 3500 with 3 - 15 images.
    - All social signals, just had first genuine reviews come in via facebook.
    - On page seo spot on, no need to assume problem here
    - 25 Blog posts all with varying information, certainly nothing duplicate ranging from 1200-5000 words with exception of 3/4 posts 400-600 ish words
    - site load speed 400ms homepage, http requests 22 - inner page around 1.5mb loads 600-700ms. Page insights home page 90+, only not 100 because ironically this would actually increase load speed to 450ms ish.
    - amp project correctly configured and loading 270ms, all validated and indexed.
    - Structured data is over the top and far too high quality/accurate for the niche
    - 3 times more high quality, readable, informative content than competitors for any terms.

    Time to stop PBN for a month and go for some big authority links / guest post on high authority domains, give google a reason to respond correctly to the expertise noted above.

    Opinions?
     
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  5. MisterF

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    The point of this forum is there are plenty guides on here and a really helpful search facility.
    Members are more likely to help out others who share information etc on here too, not just come to leach.

    Most people offer general advice and guidance in their spare time, for the good of other members.

    If you want specific one to one advice, pay for it.

    I charge £100 an hour or discounted to £500 a day ( plus expenses if face to face ) so either read & lose the attitude or pay for a consult.
     
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  6. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    Thanks for your reply, I suppose it's a start but two problems with it, firstly, I've asked a basic question( i think basic) & (shared some good data if you read closely between the lines and would of been an excellent post for the masses) and your response is of low value, unless of course this is info you don't want public?

    Secondly this was a request for shared information pertaining to pbns which the whole forum would of benefited from answered (and as it stands not answered unless I've misused the search) - please feel free to educate me, and I'll gladly thank you and concede the point.

    Your announcement of your lofty fees on my thread that would benefit many would seem overly self advertising and low value - perhaps consider removing it.

    If anyone has taken the time to test my information request and wants to share that's brilliant, if not well the test results are on their way from my own testing anyway in the next 8/12 weeks - if you couldn't see that in the post, you aren't worth your fees - just saying, have a think about it.
     
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    lol fuck off dude, the guy asked a simple question that is not noob shit at all. The reason it didn't get answers is cause most people don't know the answer to it. There's no answer for it on this forum.

    BHW is supposed to be the place where you get the info that you sell to others, not the place where you scam people into $100 hourly sessions. That's what real life is for.
     
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    whats up with you ?? many people here are helpful not everybody is as you and tries to sell a way overpriced service if someone is asking here something...
     
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    I wasn't trying to sell fuck all, it was my standard tongue in cheek response when people come asking for help and admit they haven't tried or tested anything before. I've used this reply a few times where people have PM'd me for advice, then ended up coming back a further 9 or 10 times for other advice, meaning I have spent an hour plus giving them advice for free.

    I don't ring up a plumber and ask him to talk me through installing central heating system do I ?
     
  10. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    Come on don't play the lawyer, or even attempt it, you didn't even bother reading my thread properly, and subsequently made a tit of yourself.

    You ring up a plumber and say my boilers knackered, talk through symptoms, a decent one will offer reasons and fixes. It's not expected a brain dead tit such as yourself can implement those fixes, and if a decent plumber he's more work than give a shit about.

    Even by your explanations you make yourself more the desperate donught.

    Then I do a search to find you hammering out more codswallop here:

    https:// www dot blackhatworld.com/seo/pbn-what-to-do.959999/#post-10269422

    Your a plonker of a lad.
     
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    You're or you are.

    If you are going to preach, at least make it look like you're educated.
     
  12. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    See I threw an insult out to see if you'd hook that or produce something of worth. You didn't surprise, my grammar is for my clients and google.
     
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    just wait and let the links sit. add more link diversity and see what happens. there is no guarantee for anything, but its worth a try.
     
  14. donkey-kong

    donkey-kong Registered Member

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    thanks for the reply itz, you've same trend of thought as me on this one I believe, it's certainly most logical path, unless someone came on with some resounding facts to the contrary that removal is prudent, I shall leave be and go find some authoritative links to mix it up a bit more.