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Another new guy... Ranking questions

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Myth03, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. Myth03

    Myth03 Newbie

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    Maybe this is a silly question from a newbie (which I clearly am).

    I’ve started targeting low volume, low competition links and I was wondering how long it takes before I should start seeing them come up in search results (anywhere). My site is a Wordpress one and I’m using Yoast to “optimize” it the best I can.

    I’m trying to do it organically without buying links, tweets, follows, etc.

    I’m also using Page Rank (software) to look at my ranks on various words.

    I know SEO is for the long term, but I was wondering if you could provide me some insight into how long until I should start showing up in the rankings?

    Follow up: I have a really hard time understanding the Domain Rank/Authority metric. I don’t understand what it’s evaluating or how to improve upon it. I’m concerned that my low DA (16) might be counteracting my SEO work. My site is only <6mo old, and the backlink profile hasn’t grown organically like I was hoping. Any thoughts on how to pump this up? I understand there’s a relationship between DA and SEO efforts as far as what shows up in the search engine results.

    Thanks to reading, I know it’s long, your expertise is so appreciated!
     
  2. Sund97

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    Aint you building any links on your own? Because you most definetly need some links to rank the keywords. Unless its LSI/Sub keywords. And you rank your main one the others maybe start to rank on their own.
     
  3. jefis

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    3 months at least to start getting your first organic clicks from Google.
    Even if you're not buying backlinks or social proof, you should still do the link building yourself. It is crucial to success.
    Also the content must be high quality with at least 1500+ words each article.
     
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    By the way, DA 16 is not bad for a site that new.

    Start doing web 2.0s and creating social media pages and post the link on there. You don't have to buy links to build links
     
  5. Myth03

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    I have been able to acquire some naturally but I think there are only 14 domains linking to the site right now?

    I’m trying to link build on my own, but so far every site I’ve reached out to hasn’t even responded. I’ve even tried to search for blogs in my niche that have broken outdated links but I’m 0/1 on that approach too.
     
  6. Myth03

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    I think our site average is about 900 words, but we’ve had some good responses from Reddit in particular do far.
     
  7. Myth03

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    I have a Facebook and Twitter page, but our growth has been largely at a standstill. We’ve even tried to narrow our focus even further to grasp more audience.

    Is social score/shares a big enough factor that we should be putting the tiny amount of income we’re making toward this?

    I am pleased to hear it’s not ranking bad for our length of site. I do worry that it’s hampering our ability to rank (especially on google).
     
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    It's not because of Reddit or readability. It's just for Google to rank better.
     
  9. Myth03

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    Gotcha! Will work towards that, we’ve gotten a few google referrals here and there but nothing consistent (or frankly, logical).

    Trying to target the best long-tail keywords I can find (using free tools... because, money...). I had a couple of those ranking in the top 100 for google, but they seem to have fallen off for some reason.
     
  10. zack101

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    It is impossible to tell really, you mean your site is 900 words in total or 900 words per article ?

    Back links are where you’re going to get your juice which will build your DA and other metrics.
    Check google search console and they will tell you your average rank.

    Right now I have a site around 170 and another one 80.

    The site at 170gets over 100 visits a day from Pinterest alone.

    If your SEO is good and your site is loading quick enough, In a low comp niche you will rank eventually.
     
  11. Myth03

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    900 words per post. We have like 300 articles at this time. My average position for the past 7 days is 60.7 on 141 impressions. This is actually substantially down (as far as position — as our 3 month average is 36.6 on 768 impressions.

    I’m hoping my SEO is “good” but in all honesty, I’m still learning what that means. However, I believe our page speed is pretty good
     
  12. zack101

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    Put your website address into Spyfu.com and see if you’re ranking

    300 articles is a lot of weight, are they all targeting different keywords?

    Depending on what keyword each article is after the competition could be harder than you think ?

    What industry are you targeting? without mentioning keywords etc
     
  13. Myth03

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    We are a sports blog and we cover a few different leagues in particular. And in full disclosure, I would be foolish to insinuate that all are good/well targeted. I’ve made substantial strides (at least I think) in targeting long-tail keywords in the last week(s).

    We’ve been using Yoast plugin since day one and they give error for keyword cannibalization so they are different, perhaps only slightly though (part 1, part 2, etc)

    I put us into spyfu and we don’t come up. So I’m gathering that’s less than ideal :p
     
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    Sports blogs can be difficult mate. Even if you’re targeting low comp keywords the LSI can be competitive.

    For example if you’re targeting MMA keyword ‘ Darren tills age’ although they keyword competiton is probably 0 you would be up against people like MMA junkie who would be ranking high for ‘Darren till’

    For a sports site concentrate on social media and reddit you could generate literally thousands of people from Facebook and reddit. Then as you grow more so will your organic reach.

    Sorry for any typos I’m on the iPad.
     
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  15. Myth03

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    We’ve managed to get a lot of traffic from Reddit, especially for our Champions League posts... but so far we aren’t even generating enough revenue to cover hosting costs. I’m using google AdWords to target <10K search appearance words with “low” competition in hopes of converting some of those to routine hits... even if it’s only 0-10 a month... that’s 10x or more what we get now :p
     
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    Yeah, even for champs league or premier league you’re against bbc news and all other news channels which are ranking for everything to do with football.

    Best bet would be social media. If your main keyword for which everything falls underneath is football then imo difficult niche.
     
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    We’ve started to move our focus to the English Championship and that has seemed to help us some. But, it sounds like I’m doing things (at least mostly) right... so I’ll keep on keeping on!
     
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    Keep on building quality links
    Write more than 1500+ links
     
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    actually you should have start social sharing of your articles from day 1, then after 1 month start making various type of backlinks like web 2.0, comment backlinks guest post pbn links and others in low quantity for your top 5 main keywords which you think have low competition and there are not much high authority websites rank on those keywords, and you should continue social sharing, never leave it, but i think you have not done all that that's why you have not rank till now but start doing it from now, hope your keywords will rank because they are less competitive.