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Anonymous to crash NYSE on Oct 10

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by PlatinumPi4u, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. PlatinumPi4u

    PlatinumPi4u Junior Member

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    Weren't they supposed to be taking fqcebook down as well? Can't remember what date though..??
     
  3. ChanceLonestar

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    I agree! End the Fed! I'd mention my main figure that I support because of this issue but I don't want to get political on this site haha.
     
  4. Roparadise

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    Anonymous is just a bunch of script kiddies,that need to get a life. All the people are just jealous because they are losers that lack the drive to become wealthy.
     
  5. Jonny Quick

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    Now. If they threatened to burn the place down, IRL, I might be impressed. I'd get some Jiffy Pop popcorn, plant my ass on the couch and watch CNN for a few night's entertainment. But this whole "anonymous" bravado is a bit much. The computer-generated voice is also rather stupid. There's no reason why they can't have people volunteer to read the text, pick the best one and run with it. In fact, there are lots of ways to compartmentalize a movement so that no single element of the movement actually commits a crime, but the sum total of all the parts makes an irresistable force that cannot be stopped. I should write a book, I think. An e-book, and sell it online.

    That's if "anonymous" really intended to incite global revolution. They're doing it wrong, is my point. A real movement needs faces, voices and real-life action. Not necessarily violent and/or illegal action, but it must be BOLD action, otherwise no one is inspired to do anything other than watch. Cowardice only inspires cowardice.

    Any attempt at war in cyberspace is going to end up with the authorities kicking down real-life doors, and dragging real-life people to real-life prisons. They don't have internet in prison, you know.
     
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  6. Methodic1

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    Are they going to sql inject the NYSE or are they going to ddos it!!!? OMGz either way they are so cool!........

    SERIOUSLY if it was that easy to take down the NYSE don't you think other nation's governments would have done it by now?

    Just goes to show-- if you make up some crap targeted at the uneducated masses you can make a page go viral. Fear mongering is oh so profitable.

    And before you mention the sensless hacking of sony, think about how much money could have been made from shorting before the major security breach (causing down time and db exporting of unhashed passwords and cc #s) and then ask yourself: was it really senseless? Was money really not a factor?

    Money drives everything, if you think the world's engine can be stopped by a few idiots you really need to stop watching Beck.
     
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    Did you already forget the huge amounts of support they gave to WikiLeaks? It is very possible that without them censorship in the US would be much worse than it already is.
     
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    November 4 I think
     
  9. BassTrackerBoats

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    Great, not only are my stocks are losing value daily we now have this crowd to affect my portfolio.

    Thanks, anonymous guys, I appreciate it.
     
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    Apparently their plan is to hit the NYSE website with a DDOS, erm....ok....so that will crash the market how? I really dont think that the actual NYSE is an anyway shape or form connected to the NYSE website other than feeding it ticker data.

    Plus, if you could actually get to the meat of the NYSE, I don't think anykind of DDOS other than one that came from Google or Amazon, using ALL of their server power would even cause a blip.

    I read in the FT a few years ago that the NYSE and FTSE are both capable of handling over 1 billion events a second before they even get sweaty. That may be an exageration, but even so, they need to be able to handle a huge amount of load. It also stated that the average max load is about 7% on a Monday morning between 9-10AM.
     
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    if i remeber it right its on november 5 :)
     
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    When they get caught the goverment will have them working for them.

    Or atleast i hope :D
     
  13. PREpurp

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    DDoS will effect everyone who trades online. So it will stall NYSE and the multiple trading companies for a little bit. Only thing that can truely destroy NYSE and other stock exchanges is by chaining multiple bugs together and forcing the values of high volume stock to plummet to zero. It's happened before. And that was only 1 bug, there are many more bugs. Anyone who is truely malicious can find these bugs and manipulate them to collapse the market.
     
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    A DDOS against the website will not affect the stock trading servers, they will be in no way connected to the website. And be on un-related IP blocks, behind the best firewalls and security measures available.

    The only way you could get at those servers is to either attack directly the financial SE infrastructure (not the public internet), or to hack a Bank's network (which will be similarly guarded) and get in through there.

    I've worked on a financial security for a project with contactless payments in the past, and its a very hard and resiliant system.

    The best way to crash a stock exchange is to generate trades that cause the quantative trading software algorithms to go into a sell cycle. You dont then need to hack the network at all, it will bring itself down. This happened in May 2010, the DOW lost 700 billion in 5 minutes. However, to do this, you need to move a LOT of trades in a very short space of time to trigger it.
     
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    Just because ddos and sql injection got popular due to wild usage and every kid knows the terms now, it does not mean you know anything about how computer systems security works in reality.

    So, it 's wise to refrain from judgment on things you are not intimately familiar with.

    I 'll reverse your argument, would you say something like this in 1995?

    Seriously, if you think it 's that easy to crash airplanes on the twin towers, don't you think terrorists would have done it by now?

    Do you see what 's wrong with the way you think? :saeek:

    Anyway, Anon is a propaganda tool, don't give any energy on this issue.
     
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    Obviously DDOS is a security vulnerability that is not easily preventable, there is no way to distinguish between visitors and compromised ips; hell it took down some very large and very secure sites and did have an impact in the financial sector. But to assume an unorganized bunch of idiots can take down the entire world's economic stability with such an attack is utter lunacy.

    Did I think hijacking was a possibility - I hadn't even considered it back in 1995. Do I think DDOS and basic query vulnerabilities can throw the world into anarchy - No and I have considered it. Could some other type of vulnerability I am not aware of cause international havock - Probably not.

    As far as computer security goes, I do not necessarily consider myself omniscient but I am sure I know as much as anyone on this forum seeing as I am midway through my masters in this field. My problem is I am unsure how the NYSE controls its data flow, but I am sure it is the most secure system in the world.
     
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    You have no idea who you are surrounded by. Your "problem" is much bigger than that.
     
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    → Ridiculous ←

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    Why do so many people think they are entitled to a job,after they go to college and get a degree? And complain about the massive amount of debt they have gotten themselves into,when they signed the contract,and should have known what they were doing.
     
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    Because they assume that a college degree is an indicator of how smart they are. And also because they believe that "being smart" is a functional alternative to "working hard", and when they hit the real-world that doesn't give a fuck what you are, but is only willing to pay for what one DOES, then they collapse into a sobbing heap, all their dreams and delusions dashed to the ground.

    And also because they believe they are better than other people, and should just naturally be rewarded for their "betterness". I completely agree. I saw that whining, sniveling douchebag on MSNBC crying about how he was "homeless" despite the fact that he got a college degree over a year ago, and still he "can't find a job". Thousands, if not millions, of uneducated Mexicans come into this country without even the ability to speak English, and yet they still manage to find gainful employment (most of them), so whining, middle-class douchebags have no sympathy from me; I'd rather kick them in the teeth as they are the enemy that will advocate that some program-or-other be funded (at my expense) to compensate for them for the fact that they cannot find a job.

    When said douchebag gets hungry enough, he'll somehow manage to find a job. Or maybe he'll start selling drugs and wind up dead or in prison. Either way these people are an expense to society, and personally I believe many of them should be shipped off to forced labor camps for a period of time, if they cannot find gainful employment. I'd be willing to bet they could find a job, when the alternative is picking recycleables from a public landfill 8 hours a day for $2.00 an hour.

    It's all relative, and a question of perspective. The best thing we could do for some of these people is to clearly demonstrate "how bad things can get" as a means of motivating them to pursue activities that they previously thought were beneath them.
     
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