And we begin!

quietamerican said:
Is there some reason you're not doing any of the usual stuff indie publishers do to launch a book? Mostly when I see people avoid that it's because they don't want to spend money but if you're willing to pay to have people upload your book to pirating sites or buying it yourself, why not pay for a netgalley spot (or wherever people are getting ARC readers these days) or put the first book on sale for free on Amazon and buy some ads?
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Well mostly,

The reason I have not done these things is because I am an idiot. I am so new to the publishing world that my experience has become a catalogue of "Things that do not work" and have yet to find an example of something that does. This is not to say that anything I have done up to this point has been a 'correct or effective' way of getting noticed.

1) "Why not pay for a netgalley spot?"

I have no idea what Netgalley is. I did not know it existed until just now. First impressions tell me that the site is very bare bones. However, after clicking around it appears that there might be more to the organization behind the site than just the page itself. I am left asking "What the heck is this?", "Who are these people?" and "Why have I never heard of this?" This is something I should probably look into.

2) "Why not put the first book on sale for free on Amazon?"

Firstly, I cannot. It is a decent idea, don't get me wrong. But I published through draft2digital and so technically I did not publish it through an account that I have access to. The platform 'd2d' published it across a wide range of platforms and has staff who service those listings. This is awesome for a variety of reasons. Firstly, it gives me a wide reach.

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Although more to your point, how wide could that reach really be if not a single person has even read it? In the past, I have considered pulling Book 1 from draft2digital so that I could upload it to Amazon myself and have full access to all the marketing features that Amazon provides -- although this activates a string of insecurities and I am forced to ask myself some very difficult questions. "What if Amazon's marketing features suck?", "What if Amazon finds some kind of issue with my submission and decides to boot me? It has happened before -- many many indie authors have experienced issues with this and if it happens to me then I won't have an entire corporation like draft2digital standing behind me to back me up." So why not AT LEAST set the price of the books to 'For free'? Well, I would love to do that, unfortunately draft2digital will only go as low as $0.99. This is a bit of a policy on their end and it limits me to some extent.

This is a very difficult decision: Reach verse Marketability. If a mistake is going to be made here then I would like to error on the side of caution. Draft2digital has an incredible working relationship with Amazon and I enjoy having them at my back when dealing with such an "elitist, authoritarian, automation dependent" corporation like Amazon. These people actually have email contacts within the company itself and can resolve issues with incredible speed.

3) buy some ads?

I technically can run ads on Amazon. Although it will never be as powerful as a KDP submission, I can create a marketing account on Amazon, design a few banner ads and try to push traffic towards draft2digital's submissions. Additionally, I can make ads off site (like with google ads) and use the amazon listing as my landing page.

Just guessing, but I should at least assume that this will have 'some kind' of effect on traffic and perhaps eventually 'some one' might actually sit down and read one of my books. But then I really need to consider other things. Things like CPC ratios, especially since I have zero experience running an Amazon ad account and am likely to require several years just wasting money before I actually accomplish anything.

And that is on top of everything I have already spent. I won't bore you with the breakdown, but to date, I have spent over $50k from inception to publication. And this is nothing compared to the amount of time invested. Over the last four years it would be safe to assume that at least 300+ days were entirely invested.

I am not adverse to spending more money, but at this point, it would be nice to have a little confidence that this investment will achieve a measurable result.

Conclusion:

I am going to check out netgalley. Amazon ads are still on the menu however, I would like to have a huge list of Amazon reviews on the landing page before I start actually paying people to look at it.

It is safe for you to say that I am probably going about this the wrong way. Yet, this is the only solution I can imagine at the moment.
 
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VisualA said:
I wrote a book. I actually wrote four books.

It took me three years, but of course, it wasn't just the writing that took so long. The artwork had to be commissioned, discarded, re-commissioned, argued over, altered, polished, discarded again. The books had to be chopped up into sections and sent to a small army of beta readers, then handed out to editors, back to beta readers, back to editors, rewrites, re-edits, rewrites, re-edits, back to beta readers. Until the whole damn thing just glowed like a Stanley Kubrick film.

What kind of book is it? Fantasy, the worse selling kind. Was I aware of this when I got into it? Yep! Yep, I sure was. This was an idiotic adventure that I began. But at least my eyes were wide open. In fairness, I believe that there are many things in life that are extremely stupid. Some of them we must never do. Others, we simply have to do. When this started, I realized how stupid it was but I just could not stop myself. If I only ever do one stupid thing in my life... let it be this.

I founded a publishing company.

If I was going to self publish (and that is exactly what I was going to do) then I needed to do it correctly. There is no point in finding success only to have the IRS (its an American thing) come after you a few years down the line because they found out people were sending me money without the expressed permission of the US government. Can't have that. In the land of the free, thats how people end up in prison. So I did all the paperwork, hired the correct people, reported to the correct agencies and pre-emptively apologized to the appropriate government institutions.

Publishing was easy.

Spent a few weeks on youtube researching things like epub formatting. Which platforms are better for self-deluded, OCD authors like myself. Then I uploaded and pushed 'go' only to have nothing happen and I had to spend a few days trading emails with support staff and asking why their automated publishing services do not actually provide the features they advertised. But, you know, in a nice way. It must always be in a nice way. Without a PR mask, the world would just consist of corporations shouting and screaming at people 24/7.

And now... nothing.

Yep! Nothing at all! Just as planned. Unironically, this is exactly what I expected to happen. Amazon lists four novels with zero views, zero purchases, zero reviews and zero traffic. The time when they might have offered some limited bit of public exposure for a new product is long gone. Here we are in 2024. Amazon receives more submissions everyday then they have customers. In many ways, I was not surprised. Gone are the days when a person's simple internet activity could move the needle so far as ranking and algorithm. Whether it is tiktok, facebook, youtube, or twitch... if you aren't pewdiepie then noone is going to even hear about it.

Its all a grift.

And it has been for quite a while. There was a time when a person only had to put up a banner ad on a website to pull in traffic, but of course that is gone. There was a time when a person only needed to hire an influencer or buy a twitter ad and thats gone too. Even white hat options are naively ineffective at this point. It is easy for a thousand dollar ad run to get 10k impressions, 500 click and zero sales.

Dead internet theory dies a slow death.

In my day we would blame this on bots with the clickthrough rate caused by adblockers handing out false information. Yet now, even this is suspect. There isn't a day that goes by when facebook is accused of simply 'making up numbers' for campaigns it never actually ran. And why should they? They never cared about your money anyway. Meta gets by on selling stock, not by collecting pennies from unaffiliated nobodies.

Enter BHW.

Its not the best game in town. It is the only game in town. Don't believe me? Thats fine. I respect your opinion. Just wait a year and tell me if the problem has gotten better or worse. No, really, I'll wait. The internet is dead. I'm not here to argue that point, but, as you can well imagine, I am here for a very specific reason.

Arise, my undead minions!!!

This is where my journey begins. If my book has zero reviews on Amazon, then why can't it have a thousand? If my book has zero reviews on Goodreads, then why can't it have five thousand? If the internet is all fiction anyway, then why can't I be the author of that fiction? (Bots, I'm talking about bots). BHW is fantastic when it comes to sharing tactics, strategies and methods for running botfarms across all the major platforms. Although this is the first time I've made an account, I have been coming here for years and just absorbing how things are done and what obstacles can be expected. When someone asks "What is the greatest book of all time?" on Reddit, I find myself easing back into my chair and asking "How difficult would it be to warm up a thousand reddit bots?"

Of course it is a challenge, but Reddit indexes for Google and it is a high authority site. With enough fake people talking about my work(s), I can one day blur the line between fantasy and reality. Go look up "Lost in Yaba: Down and Out in Laos", a terrible book to be sure, but you wouldn't know that from typing it into Google. Goodreads rates it as the greatest book of all time, outranking 1984, War and Peace, Catcher in the Rye, a Tale of Two Cities. This book can't be stopped... everyone is talking about it. But is that true? What is the truth?

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And why can't it be me? I've used Javascript before, I am familiar with browser automation. I can afford one of these unlimited rotating 5g proxy sites for $100/month. After some time, research, practice and a whole lot of trial and error... I can become the internet. And when someone pulls out their kindle and goes looking for something to read, all they will find is me. And me. And me. And me again. Also me. With me, myself and another person who is also me. I will be everywhere and the only reality they can expect to find is the one I crafted for them.

Kinda ironic, I know. Fantasy author creates fantasy of popularity, grifts the unsuspecting. Fuck you, my book is gold and I will force you all to believe it.
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I think you're doing the right thing because to make something perfect you have to start over many times, 1000 attempts if necessary, but the important thing is that it's perfect when it's finished. May your success continue my friend with love :)
 
Bots are 100% complete and I have begun scaling up. Ultimately, I decided on manually creating each bot with Gmail and using Gmail to setup all other accounts (because everyone seems to trust the hell out of google). There is only one issue with this system and that is the fact that Google tends to throw a tantrum when it encounters a browser/user it has never seen before. 1/3 new connections get flagged as a possible bot and then it takes a lot of arm twisting to convince it that everything is fine.

And I must stress, these Gmail accounts are like gold. Reddit, Amazon, Goodreads, everyone trusts the hell out of it. All I have to do is type in that @gmail and these platforms roll out the red carpet with no further questions.

So I've created a secondary process for my bots. While the established bots are warming up on reddit/amazon/goodreads, my 'unplatformed' bots are going to perform for google and pretend to be real users for a prescribed length of time.

How long does it take for Google to consider a new browser to be recognized and not a bot account? I am uncertain but it appears to be longer than 24 hours. Moving forward, I am going to rotate all of my browsers through google and bring them onto the other platforms one at a time after they have earned google's trust.

I see this as the best way forward.
 
Yes, this works. What you're doing is cookie warmup. This has been a thing since 2016, here's an excerpt from an old Columbia uni study that warmed up Google accounts for 9 days to bypass ReCaptcha:

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VisualA said:
So I've created a secondary process for my bots. While the established bots are warming up on reddit/amazon/goodreads, my 'unplatformed' bots are going to perform for google and pretend to be real users for a prescribed length of time.
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So, one thingI did to make this process endless is add a _GoogleWarmup function that precedes all other bot functions. Eg: _GoogleWarmup() before _SiteName_CreateAccount() or _SiteName_CreateReview(). Eg: the bot will do a few google searches before going to the specific page where it needs to do..bot stuff. This ensures an endless warmup of the cookies. Lowers the speed of bots, but that isn't a bad thing. If you had enough resources, you could theoretically run an infinite warmup that continuously searches Google, scrolss social media, watches youtube videos, interspersed with targeted actions (retweets, reposts, upvotes, comments).
 
noellarkin said:
So, one thingI did to make this process endless is add a _GoogleWarmup function that precedes all other bot functions. Eg: _GoogleWarmup() before _SiteName_CreateAccount() or _SiteName_CreateReview(). Eg: the bot will do a few google searches before going to the specific page where it needs to do..bot stuff. This ensures an endless warmup of the cookies. Lowers the speed of bots, but that isn't a bad thing. If you had enough resources, you could theoretically run an infinite warmup that continuously searches Google, scrolss social media, watches youtube videos, interspersed with targeted actions (retweets, reposts, upvotes, comments).
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That is exactly how I figured this out!!

When I first started, I had a few suspicions that various platforms were getting cookie data from google (somehow) and although I later dropped this theory, I was hyper paranoid in my early days. As a part of the process, I made my bots proceed to google from yahoo/excite and begin searching for random things before eventually navigating (from a google redirect) to the target platform.

Later, when I decided to explore the gmail option, I noticed that bots that had spent a lot of time on google had absolutely no problem setting up a gmail accounts however new bots (with new browsers) were immediately distrusted.

I must say -- it is very nice to receive confirmation of this theory.
 
Christmas blues!

3/4ths of my bots work just fine. 1/4th do not. I suspect that this has something to do with the browser profiles they are trying to access but I can't really be sure. I'm going to create a logging system that will closely inspect the browser profiles that succeed and the ones that fail to connect.

I doubt this is an issue on Dolphin's side, but I can't ignore the possibility that 1/4th of these new 100 profiles are somehow corrupted. More testing is required.

And while I spend away these long hours grinding away behind a python IDE, I must admit that I feel quite discouraged.

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I sold a book the other day. No idea where and no idea to who. It is uncertain as to whether or not I will ever know. It happened on Amazon, I know that much. Someone, somewhere must have seen it... somehow. And bought it at the 'non-sale' price of $10. To some extent, this amuses me. But overall, it is deeply depressing.

It is just that I envisioned my first sale to be some sort of joyous occasion. An omen of things to come, that first trickle before the flood. I wanted to watch people talk about it and hear their opinions on it. Watch people speculate on the sequel(s) and bicker about the intentions/motives of characters... possibly on twitter.

Instead, this happens. An improbable aberration where months of SEO, articles, dataset poisoning and casting the widest net possible (over 25 platforms) just to get a single person to look at it... and probably by mistake.

Anyway...

I've been here before.

These bots won't fix themselves. Like I said in the beginning, if the internet does not listen: then I'll become the internet and that is all I'll ever talk about. Be afraid, internet. Here I come.
 
I've just read the whole thing, and I have a few thoughts to share. First of all, I think you're in the wrong niche. If you started here on BHW and sold the services you developed for that book-selling venture, you could make a killing. But, everyone has their "thing," so selling automation services might not "tickle" your interest...yet.

This journey is so underrated, but only because the title says it's about publishing a book, rather than something like: "Journey: Building an Army of Bots—Reddit, Email, and AI to Create Massive Engagement and Drive Sales on Amazon."

For me, this is a top 5 journey, on the same level as:
@lucky.sparks's: Journey 1, Journey 2, Journey 3
@avilabs's journey
@AllOutAnime's journey
@evex's journey

If I may add a few potentially useful tips: I used to be an Amazon seller in a different niche and managed to get one of those "Amazon Seller Badges"—can't remember which one. I achieved that using a 40% OFF coupon campaign on Facebook. It was excessive, but at that point, PPC costs were higher than the product price, so I decided to clear out my stock. In the process, I got the badge, but the algorithm didn’t pick up the momentum because I think the ratio of sales versus traffic was too high—too many sales compared to how many people visited my listing, especially compared to other sellers offering the exact same product.

I’d recommend running a Facebook campaign + Amazon campaign to start gaining traction on your listing—slowly at first, alongside your Reddit campaign. After that, alongside your bots, you might consider buying some sales without reviews here on BHW (there are lots of legit US-based sellers on the marketplace). Later, you can focus on adding reviews. Maybe even have some Reddit users buy from you to trick Amazon’s algorithm.

My conclusion after dropping my Amazon business: It’s not worth it! Given your complex brain that can handle multiple processes simultaneously (I can relate), it might be healthier for you to avoid Amazon altogether. If I were in your position, with all that brainpower, I’d build my own website to push the book using Reddit, Instagram, and Facebook Groups—and quit Amazon. Or maybe consider running both in parallel and see how it goes.

Nevertheless, I’m keeping an eye on this journey because you’ve given me lots of ideas for mine, even though it’s in a different niche—but still bot-related.

A sincere: Best of luck!


VisualA said:
So whats the point? (you might ask). Well, the point is to get good reviews so that when I market in other places, people will go to Amazon and see all the great reviews.
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This is good, but keep in mind, if you do this, you will have to "force" traffic because Amazon algo will not push you no matter what. Just keep in mind this.
 
MR.Spuf said:
I've just read the whole thing, and I have a few thoughts to share. First of all, I think you're in the wrong niche. If you started here on BHW and sold the services you developed for that book-selling venture, you could make a killing. But, everyone has their "thing," so selling automation services might not "tickle" your interest...yet.

This journey is so underrated, but only because the title says it's about publishing a book, rather than something like: "Journey: Building an Army of Bots—Reddit, Email, and AI to Create Massive Engagement and Drive Sales on Amazon."

For me, this is a top 5 journey, on the same level as:
@lucky.sparks's: Journey 1, Journey 2, Journey 3
@avilabs's journey
@AllOutAnime's journey
@evex's journey
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It's a nice journey, I actually forgot my journey post (no time n will).


Btw Ive a question, You've some plan B , C if your bots stop working ? things can change really fast
 
MR.Spuf said:
I’d recommend running a Facebook campaign + Amazon campaign to start gaining traction on your listing—slowly at first, alongside your Reddit campaign. After that, alongside your bots, you might consider buying some sales without reviews here on BHW (there are lots of legit US-based sellers on the marketplace). Later, you can focus on adding reviews. Maybe even have some Reddit users buy from you to trick Amazon’s algorithm.

My conclusion after dropping my Amazon business: It’s not worth it! Given your complex brain that can handle multiple processes simultaneously (I can relate), it might be healthier for you to avoid Amazon altogether. If I were in your position, with all that brainpower, I’d build my own website to push the book using Reddit, Instagram, and Facebook Groups—and quit Amazon. Or maybe consider running both in parallel and see how it goes.
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I printed this off and taped it to my wall. Seriously, I am not joking.

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I am literally this guy. This is literally my wall.

Thank you for the sound advice. Often times it is difficult to see when I should be cautious and when I should just 'go for it'. But the more I listen to people on BHW, I've become convinced that I need to process these strategies into more of a "slow burn" in order to do this correctly (and avoid Amazon getting mad at me). Reddit and Instagram I can treat with a heavy hand but when it comes to Amazon, I should proceed carefully.
 
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evex said:
It's a nice journey, I actually forgot my journey post (no time n will).


Btw Ive a question, You've some plan B , C if your bots stop working ? things can change really fast
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The objective is not really to make money but to achieve exposure. Whatever challenges come down the line, that will still be my ultimate goal. I want the whole world to read these books, even if I have to break into their house and take hostages.

Which, ironically, still probably wouldn't work. When they find out it is 'Dark Fantasy' genre they might prefer the alternative rather than reading 'yet indy another fantasy novel'. Regardless, my plans may change along the way but the objective will always remain the same. Widespread exposure and brand recognition. If somehow my bots suddenly stop functioning and I am unable to make more (for some reason) then who knows, I would have to find something equally audacious.
 
VisualA said:
Thank you for the sound advice. Often times it is difficult to see when I should be cautious and when I should just 'go for it'. But the more I listen to people on BHW
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I understand you, sometimes I try to reinvent the wheel when is not necesary.

I'm glad that my advice was helpfully. This journey became very interesting. Good luck and keep us posted with the progress
 
Here comes the invisible man!​
So this week I was cycling 100 accounts through Google/Reddit/Amazon/Goodreads, just picking up cookies and getting them to log my browser. I have a script called "Rehearsal" and it is designed to take each bot on a magical mystery tour of each platform (that typically takes about 10 minutes a piece) and then ends.

I have become really good about using APIs and have gotten rid of a lot of my legacy code that manually triggers the IP reset. Now I just have my casting director script call iproxy on the phone and say "Reset me" and its done. This makes the process so much easier.

(The boring technicals)

So director bot kicks off casting director bot. Casting director bot (CS) dumps 100 browser profile numbers into a list and shuffles them good. Then it records the current IP address, calls up iproxy and tells it to change the IP. Then it calls up each actor, one at a time and gives them 10 minutes to explore the internet, changing the IP every single time.

Everything was going great...

Right up until it wasn't...

As you all know, this program is running on my laptop and it is tethered to a cell phone (where iproxy has set up shop). The cell phone using the AT&T network and it allows for "Unlimited data".

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Turns out that cellphone providers are just 'top dealing' at this point. They have a monopoly and they are going to use it. The best cell phone plan out there "ATT&T super-ultra-unlimited plan with unlimited data and unlimited unlimited unlimited" unless of course you tether it to a laptop, then they limit you to 30gb. So its 'unlimited data' and 'some limits apply'.

While running my bots... everything completely froze up. After going for a week solid with 100 bots just dancing all over the internet, AT&T and had enough and they shut me down. Apparently now I have to wait for my limit to reset on January 3rd.

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I started cleaning my phone of all spyware (because if they don't know where the data is coming from then they can't limit me) and looking at VPN software to disguise my tethering. As it turns out, I can't install vpn software because I already have a vpn installed on my phone.

Iproxy, once again, to save the day. They had a fix for this already built into their software and they recommend using 'openVPN'. So I installed an openVPN client on my laptop, connected to my phone and... now my connection is fine.

That was quite an adventure.
 
Man, you are a writer. I'd like to purchase your book. Maybe this thread on BHW can also be part of the exposure. What if your real original account itself is part of blurring lines between fantasy and reality.
 
ddxx said:
Man, you are a writer. I'd like to purchase your book. Maybe this thread on BHW can also be part of the exposure. What if your real original account itself is part of blurring lines between fantasy and reality.
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Well thank you, my friend, for your generous compliment. Unfortunately, I have already decided to ABSOLUTELY NEVER reveal my book title here on this forum. The issue is, of course, one of branding.

(I get that it is ironic I am focusing so hard on branding when I am on BHW complaining about how no one has ever read my book) (except for that one solitary purchase that happened two weeks ago from a person who I will never be able to identify) -- but really did you expect anything else from me?

The purpose of my journey is to pick up all the skills necessary to be an effective marketer so that ONE DAY if I do achieve some kind of limited success, I will have the full benefit of convincing my readers that I am a middle aged Philippino woman that may or may not be the long lost daughter of a world famous celebrity who recently died. (She has a twitter account and everything). The branding is solid! I just have to get a little exposure for it to be worth anything.

I'm workin on it!
 
VisualA said:
Here comes the invisible man!​
So this week I was cycling 100 accounts through Google/Reddit/Amazon/Goodreads, just picking up cookies and getting them to log my browser. I have a script called "Rehearsal" and it is designed to take each bot on a magical mystery tour of each platform (that typically takes about 10 minutes a piece) and then ends.

I have become really good about using APIs and have gotten rid of a lot of my legacy code that manually triggers the IP reset. Now I just have my casting director script call iproxy on the phone and say "Reset me" and its done. This makes the process so much easier.

(The boring technicals)

So director bot kicks off casting director bot. Casting director bot (CS) dumps 100 browser profile numbers into a list and shuffles them good. Then it records the current IP address, calls up iproxy and tells it to change the IP. Then it calls up each actor, one at a time and gives them 10 minutes to explore the internet, changing the IP every single time.

Everything was going great...

Right up until it wasn't...

As you all know, this program is running on my laptop and it is tethered to a cell phone (where iproxy has set up shop). The cell phone using the AT&T network and it allows for "Unlimited data".

pirates-yesbutno.gif


Turns out that cellphone providers are just 'top dealing' at this point. They have a monopoly and they are going to use it. The best cell phone plan out there "ATT&T super-ultra-unlimited plan with unlimited data and unlimited unlimited unlimited" unless of course you tether it to a laptop, then they limit you to 30gb. So its 'unlimited data' and 'some limits apply'.

While running my bots... everything completely froze up. After going for a week solid with 100 bots just dancing all over the internet, AT&T and had enough and they shut me down. Apparently now I have to wait for my limit to reset on January 3rd.

why-him-why-him-gi-fs.gif


I started cleaning my phone of all spyware (because if they don't know where the data is coming from then they can't limit me) and looking at VPN software to disguise my tethering. As it turns out, I can't install vpn software because I already have a vpn installed on my phone.

Iproxy, once again, to save the day. They had a fix for this already built into their software and they recommend using 'openVPN'. So I installed an openVPN client on my laptop, connected to my phone and... now my connection is fine.

That was quite an adventure.
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If you connect the phone via USB to the laptop, the phone and the provider know it's tethering as you've experienced.
Most providers have a hard limit of 30GB for this per month to prevent what you are doing.
I assume your phone runs on android. Get yourself some otg LAN cable and connect your phone, as well as laptop to the same gateway.
Then access the proxy over your network and it should work without limits.
Your other alternative would be to use LTE USB sticks instead of phones but I dislike them.
 
AllOutAnime said:
If you connect the phone via USB to the laptop, the phone and the provider know it's tethering as you've experienced.
Most providers have a hard limit of 30GB for this per month to prevent what you are doing.
I assume your phone runs on android. Get yourself some otg LAN cable and connect your phone, as well as laptop to the same gateway.
Then access the proxy over your network and it should work without limits.
Your other alternative would be to use LTE USB sticks instead of phones but I dislike them.
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This is fucking brilliant.

Thank you, my friend!
 
Well, Merry Christmas everyone! I had a lovely Christmas present this week.

Project 1) Revamp the laptop/cellphone setup to incorporate a gateway hub I just ordered off of Amazon (should be here in a few days) (its christmas so it'll take a while).

Project 2) Freak out that my bot warming system is taking too long.

Sometime around Christmas Eve, I became a bit frustrated that my bot warming system was taking a bit too long and may not have been all that effective in convincing these platforms that I am a hundred "perfectly normal" users. So, I decided to test one on Google to see if I could setup an account. It did not go well. Google immediately threw me at the phone verification screen, even after warming these accounts for fourteen days. I got a little angry.

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And I decided "Fine!" You know what? Fine! You want a phone number? I'll give you one. So, I did a bit of research and found smspva.com, I don't know if they have a presence here on BHW but their discount code sure seemed to work (lol) and sometime last night I found myself funding an account and ready to summon phone numbers out of thin air and hit them with SMS verification. It sucks that I had failed to properly warm these accounts but desperate times call for....

And Google didn't prompt me. I setup the account, then reddit, then goodreads and amazon. No SMS required. So I moved on to the next account and same thing... no phone number required. In that span of two days, the warming process appears to have reached the magic number of 100% trustability. I went from profile to profile setting up accounts. Google had no issue at all. It was like Google's Christmas present to me. Everything worked np. No phone required.

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