Guys With this years Panda-Fest, all the talk now is on indexing, and how much harder it's got... I've run some stats from a section of AMR runs over the last 90 days (based on a slice of 3 new submissions per day, 5 days per week, 550-850 dir's, with NO 2nd/3rd tier links or pings/RSS/indexers/BMs/etc. to help them index), and it shows some interesting results. Indexing is much slower than before as expected, but it's still consistently climbing. With the huge slow-down, I'd expected a massive drop-off in overall indexing, but after 60-90 days, I'm still seeing some pretty good (for post-panda anyway) indexing rates. After 2 weeks I averaged 32 indexed links (not great - I remember the days when it wpuld be 400+ by 2 weeks!) After 1 month, it was around 64 indexed links. After 2 months, it had climbed to around 93 indexed links. After 3 months, most were showing 100-130 indexed links. That's a pretty flat-line growth; and FAR better than I'd expected. So, although the days of massive and fast indexing with AMR, are over, I have to say that I'm happy with 100-130 indexed links from each run over 3 months. That's a nice natural growth for my properties. And if you're doing 3-4 per day, then thats 400-500 indexed links per day over time. Recently, we've been trying EVERYTHING to increase indexing rates, and the only real success seems to be from non-spammed 2.0's. Pinging/RSS feeds and services don't really seem to cut the mustard anymore. AMR > AMR doesn't increase the speed (you wouldn't really expect it to - based on the above results,) bookmarking isn't really helping either. I wonder now if it's better to accept the new growth rates, and just get on with it; rather than spending a fortune in time/effort and money to get the links indexed quicker? ...I suppose it depends on your strategy. We have hundred and hundreds of sites that are all in it for the long-haul, so I don't care if it takes a little longer - as long as the asset is protected and maturing. If I bring a new domain online - I don't expect any results for the first 6 months (it will get some - but I don't expect anything from it.) I think that since Panda, many BH's need to rethink their AMR strategy and while using BH methods, focus more on white/grey hat assets for longevity. Of course, manual 2.0's have become the hot & fast indexing item now. And this is the area we're pushing into the hardest. I also have to qualify all these results by saying that the content, titles and resources are MASSIVELY spun and highly unique, and the submissions were across hundreds of pages and domains - so ZERO footprint. Don't expect good results with mediocre spinning! Comments/Questions?!