Amazon KDP Journey

calltyrone · Jun 15, 2014

Your killing it with amazon kdp, congrats man! I have a question that you may or may not have the answer to but do you think people would buy a book about my life? I feel like I have an interesting story that people would want to read.

or should I just stick to what regular topics first?

jivvust · Jun 17, 2014

If you're an astronaut ninja who recently discever a working cure for cancer, I'm sure people would. On the other hand, judging from my own experience, people will read many different kinds of books, as long as the story is presented in a gripping way.

PullShare · Jun 19, 2014

Great work! Hoping the best for you!

Mihaidesign · Jun 19, 2014

Wow,you selling in mass!!Good
After i build my audience for my niche blog i will start too with Amazon kindle program.

Fruchtwein · Jun 20, 2014

calltyrone said:
Your killing it with amazon kdp, congrats man! I have a question that you may or may not have the answer to but do you think people would buy a book about my life? I feel like I have an interesting story that people would want to read.

or should I just stick to what regular topics first?

jivvust said:
If you're an astronaut ninja who recently discever a working cure for cancer, I'm sure people would. On the other hand, judging from my own experience, people will read many different kinds of books, as long as the story is presented in a gripping way.

Hi, thanks!
Jivvust answered the question already. Not easy to say as we don't know your life.

PullShare said:
Great work! Hoping the best for you!

Thank you!

Mihaidesign said:
Wow,you selling in mass!!Good
After i build my audience for my niche blog i will start too with Amazon kindle program.

Could always be more

Stats:

Sorry guys, I was sick and couldn't do anything...
But my team worked hard to reach new heights.

Around 1,100.- USD income created and 1,450 stories online.
I expected a higher income from the mass uploads but I can wait.
Also the refund rate exploded, so I have to figure out why.

PullShare · Jun 20, 2014

Could the refund rate be because of the spinx2 from already spun content? You might want to track the refunds per book title per submitter/spinner.

jackjo · Jun 20, 2014

Hey, nice journey. It is really interesting even though I do not hold much for this boosting out thousands of books thing.

I have a question: how do you track your sum of sales per month? Do you really go through all the stores one by one in one of the stats or is there something I missed? Would be very helpful.

Good luck to you!

Fruchtwein · Jun 21, 2014

PullShare said:
Could the refund rate be because of the spinx2 from already spun content? You might want to track the refunds per book title per submitter/spinner.

I try not do double spin the content.
The spintax quality is very good and readable - so at the moment I don't know why.

On some days the refund rate is also 50%.

What I saw is, that the guys make random description instead of copying the prepared ones.
That could it be, because the random ones have no connection to the story.
Example: A story about a cheating wife and her punishment will receive the name "Fuck the Asian Girl" and a description about an Asian girl. People will get angr bout that, at least I would do that.

jackjo said:
Hey, nice journey. It is really interesting even though I do not hold much for this boosting out thousands of books thing.

I have a question: how do you track your sum of sales per month? Do you really go through all the stores one by one in one of the stats or is there something I missed? Would be very helpful.

Good luck to you!

I am also not sure in the moment if pumping out hundreds of stories is worthy - but will stick at least a few more month to the system.

Amazon has a new dashboard with all markets included. So the first picture I always give is from the new dashboard and shows all sales. I can specify date and market if I want. And you can download a report with the specification. The old Amazon style would be hell but now it is perfect!

Fruchtwein · Jun 22, 2014

Stats:

Extrapolation says around 1,800.- USD for June.
Refund rate is still very high (30% - 50% per day) and the sales factor is very low (1,5% of the books sold per day in average for June).
60 sales a day seems to be the new mark to breach, bounced three times near the 60. Time to cross this line

I have now 1,717 porn books online and for earning 10,000.- USD a month I need around 9,000 more books...
In one week they uploaded around 1,000 books, so per month it will be around 4,000.
The guys are here anyway and I promised them to try out the system for two or three month - so I will still stick with the system, but I thought about mixing some quality content (non porn, non fiction) books in. I will think about it tomorrow.

Charn · Jun 23, 2014

I've thrown a few non porn books in the mix for a break from the porn and they sell alright. About the same as the porn, granted they are still orientated to adults (relationship, adult professions, etc). I'll take the 2 or 3 sales a month from them for two hours of work. I have a few kids books that get a few sales a month as well, one month one of them sold about 27.

What's your pricing for everything? $2.99 per story?

Don't sleep on the bundling. If you throw together 3+ random stories I'm sure it will sell better than any single. Plus you can easily multiply your total number of books.

With 20 stories, bundling them in groups of 3, would net you 1140 unique combinations. Groups of 5 net 15504 combinations. That's what I've decided to start doing, while my worker keeps delivering new stories every few days.

Fruchtwein · Jun 26, 2014

Charn said:
I've thrown a few non porn books in the mix for a break from the porn and they sell alright. About the same as the porn, granted they are still orientated to adults (relationship, adult professions, etc). I'll take the 2 or 3 sales a month from them for two hours of work. I have a few kids books that get a few sales a month as well, one month one of them sold about 27.

What's your pricing for everything? $2.99 per story?

Don't sleep on the bundling. If you throw together 3+ random stories I'm sure it will sell better than any single. Plus you can easily multiply your total number of books.

With 20 stories, bundling them in groups of 3, would net you 1140 unique combinations. Groups of 5 net 15504 combinations. That's what I've decided to start doing, while my worker keeps delivering new stories every few days.

Everything is on sale for 2,99 USD.

I will start the bundles after all regular stories are uploaded.

Stats:

It is not satisfying.
More than 2,200 books online and only 26 sales per day in average... that sucks!
I will still stick to the system, but I think someone quoted already something like "Quality is king". This journey proves it very well...

Currently I am working on a new system - no mass uploads, but high quality content.

The income is not bad, but not as good as it should be with this amount of books. If there is no change coming up, I have to bring a second system.

Charn · Jun 27, 2014

Do you mind either PMing me or linking to one of your books on here? Just want to check it out.

Fruchtwein · Jun 29, 2014

Amazon said:
Hello,

It appears that you have multiple KDP accounts, which is a violation of our Terms and Conditions, and that this account is related to an account that has already been blocked due to rights issues and violations of our Content Guidelines.

As a result, this account has been blocked and we are removing the books you have uploaded through KDP from the Kindle Store. Note that you are no longer eligible to receive unpaid royalties for sales that occurred prior to this termination. Additionally, as per our Terms and Conditions, you are not permitted to open new KDP accounts and will not receive future royalty payments from additional accounts created.

If you have any questions, please email us at [email protected].

Best Regards,

Ban Hammer...
Actually I don't know why - it says something about relationship to an old account.

So, no payments.

But I wont give up. Time for a restart!

sirmattheww · Jun 29, 2014

That's a hard hit.. Will you use the same strategy? Or go for quality this time?

Best regards,
SirM

blackfatcat · Jun 29, 2014

Whoa! All that work and money spent for nothing.

Charn · Jun 29, 2014

Maybe you could try another site, like smashwords, which I think uploads to Amazon as well as all the other book eretailers.

jivvust · Jun 29, 2014

Ouch, that has ended abruptly. I like your attitude - don't give up and continue the grind. Looking forward to more updates with a slightly different approach to your journey.

Fruchtwein · Jun 30, 2014

sirmattheww said:
That's a hard hit.. Will you use the same strategy? Or go for quality this time?

Best regards,
SirM

Hm, I will reorganize the system.
As ~2,500 eBooks only have 25 sales per day in average I have to make some changes.
At least 20 to 40% of the books should sell per day!

Today I will have a team meeting, explain the situation and discuss some new ideas.

blackfatcat said:
Whoa! All that work and money spent for nothing.

Even spent more money... will do a proper calculation later, but now it is around 3,000.- USD in minus.
You fail, you stand up again. That's life - you have to learn from the mistakes you made.

Charn said:
Maybe you could try another site, like smashwords, which I think uploads to Amazon as well as all the other book eretailers.

For Smashwords I found that on their page:

smashwords said:
Although we have a distribution agreement with Amazon via their Kindle Direct Platform, they're unable to receive our entire catalog until they create a bulk upload facility. In the meantime, we're only distributing a few hundred titles to Amazon out of our catalog of over 250,000. We understand that many Smashwords authors would prefer the convenience of consolidating their distribution to Amazon via Smashwords, rather than uploading direct to Amazon. If your book has earned over $2,000 at Smashwords and you would prefer to consolidate your distribution via Smashwords to Amazon as opposed to uploading direct with them, please click the "comments/questions" link and let us know you're in the $2,000 club and would like to be considered for our distribution to Amazon.

So it is not suitable for me as I won't earn 2,000.- USD with one book.
But maybe as a second source of income?!

jivvust said:
Ouch, that has ended abruptly. I like your attitude - don't give up and continue the grind. Looking forward to more updates with a slightly different approach to your journey.

No way to give up. I invested in the computers and other stuff. And I don't need four extra computers

The salary payments I can cover up with my day job income - so I can try again.

Kindle is still a goldmine. My tool brake, so I get a new one.

Stats:
I made a new account. Payment will be via checks - no bank account directly involved this time, as I am thinking the caught me via the transfer account or the IP.
Set up Tor Browser on the computers to hide the IP and cookies. It is way slower, but it works.

Charn · Jun 30, 2014

Although KDP has the largest market, if you get banned again you may want to look into Smash or Draft2Digital. They'll upload to a iTunes, Google, Kobo, etc. It wont be as many sales as with Amazon, but at least you're not banned from those avenues yet.

ming34 · Jun 30, 2014

subscribed good luck

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