Followed your thread for a while now and it looks like you have done an awesome job. I'm really interested in what you are going to do next, since you have a seasonal niche
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Followed your thread for a while now and it looks like you have done an awesome job. I'm really interested in what you are going to do next, since you have a seasonal niche
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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December's over, and I did much better than I thought I would. Total profit for December: $17,000. OOOO baby.
HoneyHelper
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- Jun 29, 2015
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17000 bucks is a nice profit mate !
congratulations mate!
now try to expand !
congratulations mate!
now try to expand !
StarryStarryNight
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- Dec 31, 2015
- 17
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It's great to see this journey and how you've progressed. Thanks for being so detailed about it. Just curious, what are the costs for your products you're selling and how many do you have on your site to get those numbers? Thanks.
BulkBuyHosting
Newbie
- Jan 2, 2016
- 3
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Congrats on your December earnings - almost 3x what you expected for the Christmas month earlier on in the posts of this series.
Any plans on what to do with the $17k? Build out your three sites further or build more sites?
Any plans on what to do with the $17k? Build out your three sites further or build more sites?
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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- Nov 2, 2015
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Taxes, continue creating content for website #1, grow website #2. I also have a physical product I'm trying to get going. Buying inventory is expensive.
I'm thinking about starting a business where Amazon affiliate users can receive their commissions early in exchange for a small percentage of that month's fees.
oblivion19
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Wow. This is great that your site picked up so fast. I am also venturing on the amazon side of things(I am a beginner) and would love to have some insight from you on some things that I am struggling with. It's a long list of question but would really love to have your opinion on these doubts. Pretty Please.
Keyword research
I can't really believe the keyword data very much. I have had some bad luck with this. I have had quite a few keywords(approx:1000 US searches) which ranked in first page of google but never really got any significant traffic whereas I have a couple of keywords that are around 800 searches and are getting me 50 to 100 hits to my site daily and they are ranking in top 5.
So, how low do you go for searches?
Buying keywords
Would you recommend buying keywords like review, cheap, discount, best etc. They seem to have pretty low search estimates
Or would you suggest keywords like For eg: If your niche is parenting, and with a keyword like "should I give my baby X" I write an article and say No, instead give your baby Y and link it to amazon. Also, If you can give X to the baby, then my article takes the shape of "Yes, you can give your baby X, but here are some better alternatives" This sort of strategy is getting me a conversion rate of around 7%. However, my recommended products are in the range of $10 to 30. So, I am not really making much. But, it's a start I want to build on.
Keyword competitiveness
Apart from manually checking it out, I also check with the moz tools keyword difficulty estimate and tend to stay under keyword competiveness of 35. How are you determing competition?
Products
What kind of price range your products are? And how do you link them. Do you just add a text link within the article or image link. Do you link to the products reviews on amazon or directly the buying page. And what kind of words do you use. Do you say directly "Buy it on amazon by clicking this link"
Native shopping ads
Have you tried these?
Keyword research
I can't really believe the keyword data very much. I have had some bad luck with this. I have had quite a few keywords(approx:1000 US searches) which ranked in first page of google but never really got any significant traffic whereas I have a couple of keywords that are around 800 searches and are getting me 50 to 100 hits to my site daily and they are ranking in top 5.
So, how low do you go for searches?
Buying keywords
Would you recommend buying keywords like review, cheap, discount, best etc. They seem to have pretty low search estimates
Or would you suggest keywords like For eg: If your niche is parenting, and with a keyword like "should I give my baby X" I write an article and say No, instead give your baby Y and link it to amazon. Also, If you can give X to the baby, then my article takes the shape of "Yes, you can give your baby X, but here are some better alternatives" This sort of strategy is getting me a conversion rate of around 7%. However, my recommended products are in the range of $10 to 30. So, I am not really making much. But, it's a start I want to build on.
Keyword competitiveness
Apart from manually checking it out, I also check with the moz tools keyword difficulty estimate and tend to stay under keyword competiveness of 35. How are you determing competition?
Products
What kind of price range your products are? And how do you link them. Do you just add a text link within the article or image link. Do you link to the products reviews on amazon or directly the buying page. And what kind of words do you use. Do you say directly "Buy it on amazon by clicking this link"
Native shopping ads
Have you tried these?
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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- Nov 2, 2015
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Wow. This is great that your site picked up so fast. I am also venturing on the amazon side of things(I am a beginner) and would love to have some insight from you on some things that I am struggling with. It's a long list of question but would really love to have your opinion on these doubts. Pretty Please.
Keyword research
I can't really believe the keyword data very much. I have had some bad luck with this. I have had quite a few keywords(approx:1000 US searches) which ranked in first page of google but never really got any significant traffic whereas I have a couple of keywords that are around 800 searches and are getting me 50 to 100 hits to my site daily and they are ranking in top 5.
So, how low do you go for searches?
Buying keywords
Would you recommend buying keywords like review, cheap, discount, best etc. They seem to have pretty low search estimates
Or would you suggest keywords like For eg: If your niche is parenting, and with a keyword like "should I give my baby X" I write an article and say No, instead give your baby Y and link it to amazon. Also, If you can give X to the baby, then my article takes the shape of "Yes, you can give your baby X, but here are some better alternatives" This sort of strategy is getting me a conversion rate of around 7%. However, my recommended products are in the range of $10 to 30. So, I am not really making much. But, it's a start I want to build on.
Keyword competitiveness
Apart from manually checking it out, I also check with the moz tools keyword difficulty estimate and tend to stay under keyword competiveness of 35. How are you determing competition?
Products
What kind of price range your products are? And how do you link them. Do you just add a text link within the article or image link. Do you link to the products reviews on amazon or directly the buying page. And what kind of words do you use. Do you say directly "Buy it on amazon by clicking this link"
Native shopping ads
Have you tried these?
These are good questions, it means you're actually putting some thought into your actions. I had some of these same exact questions when I was starting out, so I would be happy to help. But please remember that there are multiple ways to do everything, and just because it worked for me does not mean it is the right way/the only way.
Keyword Research
I could write a book on doing keyword research, there's just so many things you can take in account. But at the same time, keyword research can be very simple. There's no magic number that you should shoot for when considering monthly searches, if an item costs $5000 and only has 100 searches a month, I would still focus on that product. 8% of 5k is $400, that's from one sale.
For the most part, the lower the monthly searches, and less focused on "buyer intent", the easier that keyword should be to rank. You want to aim to be #1, you should be satisfied with positions #2-5 (above the fold), and you should be damn hungry at positions #6-13. This is all my opinion. Approx 95% of searches don't look at the second page.
Also, specific keyword research is important, but how those keywords fit into your website, what page they're on, what category they're in, all these things matter. Remember that long-tails are going to be the majority of your traffic, so plan the website for specific keywords and user experience, but include these things into your master plan and "feel" of your website.
Buying Keyword
I wish I could give you an easier answer for this, but I don't have it myself. You seem to be doing pretty well, just remember to answer your visitor's questions in as simple and easy to grasp as possible. Everything is for your visitor.
I think what type of keywords you focus on depends on your specific website and optimization methods. For example, if you have a product review website, then naturally you're going to focus on more buyer oriented terms, and this is why you often see a lot of amazon affiliate websites following this exact method across many websites.
Keyword Competitiveness
I think this this just comes with experience. But first off, I think you're looking at it backwards. I don't ever look to see if a single keyword will be easy to rank, I look at the entire niche as a whole and say to myself, "can I create a better website that those ranking in the top 10"? If I see the same website in the top position, then I look at their articles and overall seo to see if I can compete.
After drowning yourself in the SERPs, you begin to notice patterns associated with quality. Once you sharpen your SEO skills you'll notice good and bad characteristics that in your opinion, will determine the competitiveness of a website and the overall niche.
Products
This is up to you. The more expensive the product, the more hesitant they'll be, the more research they will do, the greater payout you will receive. The more inexpensive the product, the more likely they'll impulse buy, the less research they will do, the lower payout you will receive.
It's up to you, but I would never create a website with the intention of selling a multitude of $20 products, it just doesn't seem worth it to me. But, I'm sure there is someone on this forum, maybe even reading this, that has a website that sells thousands of smallers products a month.
Native Shopping Ads
No I have not.
habashir11
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- Mar 10, 2011
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amazing thread. Thank you
at the very start, how did u afford orders of all those articles,and all that content?
its great to see you were eventually able to break even and profit with article ordering
at the very start, how did u afford orders of all those articles,and all that content?
its great to see you were eventually able to break even and profit with article ordering
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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- Nov 2, 2015
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Starting to get back into it. I took a nice break off, now I'm ready to get rolling again with website #2. While I've been sitting here doing nothing, it's aged a little bit (3 months old), and I'm happy to report it has risen steadily in the serps. I'm setting in position 20-40 for most of the keywords I originally decided to track. I've got a few keywords ranking <10, but nothing special. I've got maybe 3 or 4 decent back-links and 1 hail-marry link that was a result of luck and perseverance. Overall, I'm actually really happy with this site, I haven't done a lot to it and it's doing well, so I can't wait to see what happens after 2 months or so of work.
Got my hands on some adderall, so today I'm being really productive and will have a game plan for website #2 as well as expired domain test #3 by the end of tonight. One thing I do know, is that I'm going to focus on content for the next month. I've only got about 20 something articles for website #2, I want to push that to 50 by the end of the month. My original plan was to publish 5 articles a week, but I failed at keeping up with that.
I haven't touched website #1 in over a month, but it's still doing well (currently at $1500). It's no December, but I expected that. I'm not going to be an idiot and just let it sit there while it slowly degrades, I've got some plans to increase the quality of the website by outsourcing article creation to some experienced peoples who also maintain similar websites. I love how hands-off the website is, but when you produce more than $200,000 in revenue in one month, you begin wonder whether you're leaving money on the table keeping it as an affiliate website.
Got my hands on some adderall, so today I'm being really productive and will have a game plan for website #2 as well as expired domain test #3 by the end of tonight. One thing I do know, is that I'm going to focus on content for the next month. I've only got about 20 something articles for website #2, I want to push that to 50 by the end of the month. My original plan was to publish 5 articles a week, but I failed at keeping up with that.
I haven't touched website #1 in over a month, but it's still doing well (currently at $1500). It's no December, but I expected that. I'm not going to be an idiot and just let it sit there while it slowly degrades, I've got some plans to increase the quality of the website by outsourcing article creation to some experienced peoples who also maintain similar websites. I love how hands-off the website is, but when you produce more than $200,000 in revenue in one month, you begin wonder whether you're leaving money on the table keeping it as an affiliate website.
habashir11
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- Mar 10, 2011
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What would the alternative be? selling products through aliexpress and doing order fulfillment yourself?
COBNETCKNN
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- Sep 3, 2015
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Amazing threat dude, keep it going!
Very interesting journey brother! Keep it up, this has got me doing Adsense and will be starting Amazon soon. I suck at keyword research so il be buying my Amazon keywords and seeing where we go from there, il be earning 4-5 figures soon!
Its all about your mindset
Its all about your mindset
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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- Nov 2, 2015
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Very interesting journey brother! Keep it up, this has got me doing Adsense and will be starting Amazon soon. I suck at keyword research so il be buying my Amazon keywords and seeing where we go from there, il be earning 4-5 figures soon!
Its all about your mindset
Wrong. Don't every buy keywords, how else are you going to learn how to do it yourself? I can almost guarantee that you won't, especially with that mindset.
Not trying to bust your balls, but you should be realistic.
john96nguyen
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- Feb 4, 2016
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This is so inspiring. I need to do this stuff.
CheeseyGorditaCrunch
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- Nov 2, 2015
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It's been a while since I last posted, and I'm ashamed to say that in these past many months I haven't really done anything. I had some other entrepreneurial ventures that I was working on, but that's no excuse to stop working on these websites. The good news is that I'm starting to work on them again. I had a surge of inspiration to increase my monthly paycheck so here I am. I know that I ranked and banked before, so there's no reason that I can't do it again.
Website 1
It goes to show why building white-hat links are so nice. I did very little work on this website in the past year, and that's being honest. But earnings have stayed steady around 4k-5k per month. Don't get me wrong, the competition has definitely increased. Some terms that I targeted have dropped from position 1 to 6, and after a year of doing nothing, that's to be expected.
Targeting Lost Back-Links
I was looking at my site through ahrefs and I noticed a decline in back-links at the same time of a decline in earnings. So I used ahrefs history tool thingy and went through all the lost back-links to try and reacquire them. I lost 4, 2 were inevitable, the other two I re-acquired.
Strategy Going Forward
Christmas is upon us, so I'm eager to regain some lost rankings as quick as possible. Going through Google webmaster tools I noticed that I rank for quite a few terms in the 5-15 spot, a lot of these are on the small individual review pages that I didn't really target. I'm going to set-up, or perhaps purchase, a few web 2.0's to send some love to these smaller inner pages.
Content honestly isn't my strong suit so I"m going to continue to outsource articles, focusing on long tails and weird phrases.
Some of my better articles are begging for a re-design, which should increase my CTR and conversion %. I plan to add one of those nifty charts comparing models.
Regular posting on social media, specifically for the small inner pages.
Website 2
If I had been working diligently, I'm almost positive Website 2 would be near Website 1 in terms of earnings. But I didn't.
The only good thing about coming back a year later is that now my website is aged with 30 or so articles and the website has passed that hump where links are less effective. Currently, most of the keywords I'm targeting are on the 2nd or 3rd page. But considering I haven't created any exact-anchors or any real backlinking, I'm excited to see the results in a couple months.
No New Enemies
My competitors are the same, nothing new. What's interesting is that I can see that most of them haven't updated their website within the year. A few even say best of 2015. This means that I can swoop right in as they neglect their website (similar to what I did with website 1).
On-Page SEO
Meh, my on-page is garbage lol. All of my content was outsourced, and half way through working with my writer I noticed that a lot of it was almost copy-pasted content. Did I still use it? YUP! I wanted to test and see what happened. I don't even think this is the main reason my on page sucks. My inner link between articles needs a lot of work, some reviews don't have related products posted, no social signals. Yadda Yadda Yadda.
Strategy Going Forward
Regular posting of content is an obvious requirement.
The next week or so I'm going to fix the on-page and get all the small stuff figured out. I'll go through and make sure the titles are right, descriptions, I'll inner link articles where appropriate, maybe change some anchor text around and fix a design problems that I still have with the website.
However now is the time to go on the hunt for some sweet and juicy back-links. I'm going to purchase a package that will create a few web 2.0's, social signals, press release, etc. I just recently was able to acquire a few links in someone's youtube videos in my niche. I'm going to buy a decent niche-relevant do-follow for around $400 while I do a little blog-commenting/forum posting. I expect to see a continuous uptrend in my traffic, rankings, and earnings from now on.
Website 3
Website 3 is still sitting in my excel file. Maybe when Website 2 shows some progress I can start on website 3.
Website 1
It goes to show why building white-hat links are so nice. I did very little work on this website in the past year, and that's being honest. But earnings have stayed steady around 4k-5k per month. Don't get me wrong, the competition has definitely increased. Some terms that I targeted have dropped from position 1 to 6, and after a year of doing nothing, that's to be expected.
Targeting Lost Back-Links
I was looking at my site through ahrefs and I noticed a decline in back-links at the same time of a decline in earnings. So I used ahrefs history tool thingy and went through all the lost back-links to try and reacquire them. I lost 4, 2 were inevitable, the other two I re-acquired.
Strategy Going Forward
Christmas is upon us, so I'm eager to regain some lost rankings as quick as possible. Going through Google webmaster tools I noticed that I rank for quite a few terms in the 5-15 spot, a lot of these are on the small individual review pages that I didn't really target. I'm going to set-up, or perhaps purchase, a few web 2.0's to send some love to these smaller inner pages.
Content honestly isn't my strong suit so I"m going to continue to outsource articles, focusing on long tails and weird phrases.
Some of my better articles are begging for a re-design, which should increase my CTR and conversion %. I plan to add one of those nifty charts comparing models.
Regular posting on social media, specifically for the small inner pages.
Website 2
If I had been working diligently, I'm almost positive Website 2 would be near Website 1 in terms of earnings. But I didn't.
The only good thing about coming back a year later is that now my website is aged with 30 or so articles and the website has passed that hump where links are less effective. Currently, most of the keywords I'm targeting are on the 2nd or 3rd page. But considering I haven't created any exact-anchors or any real backlinking, I'm excited to see the results in a couple months.
No New Enemies
My competitors are the same, nothing new. What's interesting is that I can see that most of them haven't updated their website within the year. A few even say best of 2015. This means that I can swoop right in as they neglect their website (similar to what I did with website 1).
On-Page SEO
Meh, my on-page is garbage lol. All of my content was outsourced, and half way through working with my writer I noticed that a lot of it was almost copy-pasted content. Did I still use it? YUP! I wanted to test and see what happened. I don't even think this is the main reason my on page sucks. My inner link between articles needs a lot of work, some reviews don't have related products posted, no social signals. Yadda Yadda Yadda.
Strategy Going Forward
Regular posting of content is an obvious requirement.
The next week or so I'm going to fix the on-page and get all the small stuff figured out. I'll go through and make sure the titles are right, descriptions, I'll inner link articles where appropriate, maybe change some anchor text around and fix a design problems that I still have with the website.
However now is the time to go on the hunt for some sweet and juicy back-links. I'm going to purchase a package that will create a few web 2.0's, social signals, press release, etc. I just recently was able to acquire a few links in someone's youtube videos in my niche. I'm going to buy a decent niche-relevant do-follow for around $400 while I do a little blog-commenting/forum posting. I expect to see a continuous uptrend in my traffic, rankings, and earnings from now on.
Website 3
Website 3 is still sitting in my excel file. Maybe when Website 2 shows some progress I can start on website 3.