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All YouTube factors for recognizing a real view

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Lucyfair, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. Lucyfair

    Lucyfair Newbie

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    Hello, we should finally put an end to our recent infirmity when it comes to YouTube views and I need your help on this one. The reason why there is no a 100% safe YouTube views provider out there is simpy because their views aren't considered 100% real by YouTube itself. It's either because vendors don't know how to provide the 100% views or it just doesn't pay off for them to sacrifice as much as it is needed for such views (I apologize if there truly is a vendor that does provide views that never drop, if there is than please inform me).

    So let's make a list of all the YouTube's requirements for a view to be considered real. I will name all the factors I know about and you tell me if they are important for YouTube when recognizing a view as real or not:

    1. Duration of the each view:
    - It should last longer than a certain % of the video (how much?)
    - Views shouldn't last the exact same duration (unless it's a full view of the clip)

    2. IPs must be different

    3. The source (fb share, yr search, reload, etc.) of the view shouldn't always be the same

    4. Browser versions of each view shouldn't always be the same

    5. Particular amount of views must come from logged in YouTube accounts

    So which of these factors are really in play when it comes to classifying the ''realness' of each view and are there more of them if so then please name them, thank you!
     
  2. Youtube-Toys

    Youtube-Toys Junior Member

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    First of all , Nobody know the proper algorithms by which youtube examines the views are real or not and even if they know no one will share, Its clear that how much money one can make if he/she have that thing.

    Things Are :-
    Its not like people not trying to make views things perfect , they make but again in few months yt does patch which means heavy footprints being left by the system so that youtube detects how fake views are being done.

    There is nothing like particular amount of views must come from logged in accounts , views even count from non logged in.

    Browser Verisons , Sources doesnot mater unique or not.. its very simple that these cannot be applied because of huge variety of people using youtube it can be anything even same or different.

    Duration also does not depend. Youtube even can have more than 100% retention when we watch the full video and then we reverse it n replay. so it all depends upon the audience.

    The main reason i think that these can not apply because ppl doing only fewer amounts of views on which all the above said parameter cannot be applied.

    Youtube stopped deleting videos on basis of views because one of the main reason is , if that is the case one can get anyones video deleted by sending false views to the video , so they just filter the views.


    But one can try is to use random values for everything, so even if method got detected by youtube , they will not able to filter all the views from all the videos hence many views can disappear but not all.

    Everything is my personal Opinion based on experience .

    And also as you asked to inform there are people around here who can do views that dont drop by a single view :p

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Lucyfair

    Lucyfair Newbie

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    Can you send me a contact to those people or if it's not allowed like that than please send me to inbox, I really need it. Thanks!
     
  4. Doworkson

    Doworkson Registered Member

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    Id like those views as well PM!
     
  5. purewisdom

    purewisdom Regular Member

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    Only things I know are:

    -View duration does not matter (for view count, for ranking it does) - Sometimes my provider gives me 10 sec views on 3 min video, sometimes full lenght and still counts

    -They provide it with embeding videos somewhere since last update (before this update they were watched directly from youtube)
     
  7. tb303

    tb303 Power Member

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    no google tracking cookies = obvious fake view (desktop/mobile anyway dont know about TV's etc)
     
  8. sh0r7y

    sh0r7y Registered Member

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    I like the idea but nearly every browser offers a private mode where cookies does not get stored in the browser. This means everybody who is watching a video in private mode is a "fake viewer". I think that a percentage of views without a google tracking cookie get recognized but not every view.
     
  9. autonomica

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    Not necessarily since many users sometimes opt to go incognito especially when watching nsfw content..
     
  10. guaje

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    i want to bee in your Gorup Cloud you please add me :
    Skype Name : katuncnenqimi
     
  11. tb303

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    Granted you'd get some cookieless views from incognito etc but they would be a small part. The majority would have a google tracking cookie with a browsing history built from browsing websites with adsense or analytics on them. They surely use this for detecting click fraud on adsense so why not fake views?

    From the few people ive spoke to on this the understanding I have is that the working view methods are based on high traffic embeds so i guess real users/real cookies. I dont think anyone has cracked using the correct PLID for fully botted views (love to be proved wrong on that - PM me if you can :) )