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Ahrefs is criticizing the BHW Backlinks services...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by anafsp1, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. anafsp1

    anafsp1 Junior Member

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    Like the title says, ahrefs is criticizing the backlink services around here, especially the Sherlock Hacks Google, everything here:
    https://ahrefs.com/blog/link-building-services/

    And in the header they say "Here is how you should Build white Hat Links", free copy of some ebook...
    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Dante12

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    The seller should thank Ahrefs for the free promo
     
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  3. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Elite Member

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    I mean its not untrue but generally its the fault of the buyer not understanding how to use the specific service. People need to understand what services are really doing at the quality level, some stuff here that is buying bought for tier 1 that is spun content and on web 2.0s with a bunch of other clients already on there, I'd call that tier 2. Other than that you get what you pay for, most are pretty clear about it what it is and priced accordingly just make sure you're not paying $5 for 1,000 links and thinking they're going to be manual t1 safe properties; some common sense goes a long ways.
     
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  4. 1morenoob

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    Well not really, most say they're white hat pbns that happen to have 100 outbound links where you can't use more than 5 keywords and probably all on reseller hosting accounts (at best)

    Personally signed up to a white hat sape service that didn't mention the word sape once in the entire thread that was sold by a mod

    'use our diversity pack with it, don't build any other links and you won't have problems' I think it said, followed instructions, wasted 2000$,ranked nowhere,website sent to google dustbin.

    Not ideal for a noob really
     
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    Very interesting post, never really thought of it that way, however id be way more comfortable paying people on here that has a high rep and just in general good feedback than on fiverr.
     
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    It is true that most of the sellers here in BST provide services that sucks, but I never tried those mentioned in the article above.
     
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    I don't understand the purpose of his article. He's talking about how profitable it is to sell a service and then adds in at the end "if you don?t want Google?s webspam team knocking on your door one day to hand you your a** on a plate then offering this kind of service isn?t for you." Are you trying to warn us to not use the service, you can build these same links for cheaper, SEO services make a lot of money or not to build blackhat links? I'm lost.

    Any active link building is against Google TOS. Google can hand you your ass on a plate at any given time, no matter how "white hat" your site is.

    You pay for people to perform these services because you don't have the time or knowledge to do so. A lot of them are total shit, true, but that doesn't mean they all are.

    Stupid article.
     
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  8. JasonS

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    Already seen it through facebook sponsored post ad. I can say that the writer is only focused on the negative side. And also forgot to mention the complete expenses such as captcha solving, private proxy costs and specially the coffees :)
     
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  9. wowhaxor

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    Well maybe I'm wrong then; its just I feel like people should know that buying a cheap service and calling it a day (they're all cheap here, you're not paying VAs to create authority web 2.0s, populate your accounts/profiles with real info and pics, etc. and then hand write keyword researched articles for each post or doing this yourself creating each property for just your one site to promote, mixing in more quality articles without links and even some linking to other niche related sites to avoid a footprint - this is real quality and very expensive and time consuming) isn't going to be the end of your SEO efforts. Some of these services are high quality or at least close to it that you can add to your stuff like I mentioned, many of it is lower quality that you can use to boost your quality tier 1 links. I just don't understand why people expect to get a unique web 2.0 account created and populated with multiple articles, etc. and pay $2-$5 for this (the cost of just 1 of the articles not to mention the filler articles or the account work); obviously you're sacrificing pay for quality which is find its just as a buyer you have to understand how to use these links (part of a larger campaign or great quality tier 2s to boost your really good tier 1s).

    (I don't sell services here BTW, I'm not defending anyone or anything I just think there are a lot of services here that do what is advertised at a good price but people use them wrong or think they're more than what they are so they're disappointed. You're not going to get a $25 well done 3-4 article web 2.0 not shared with anyone else for $5 or less, especially when the provider has to make a profit after paying their VA instead of you just paying the VA and I think assuming you are is just ridiculous. There is still use for this which is why they're still good services - you're just using them wrong.
     
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  10. pixelgrinder

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    It should be common sense. You are 100% correct
     
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    not sure if this is a promo for the seller .......

    @wowhaxer
    if you read the article the guy is claiming to reproduce this service with 5er links ..... so a service what the article is about is for the money side. you will not pay 150$ or so for a tier 1 page i guess at least. and the quality you get is described in the article. .... so ist not about understanding what you buy or paying only 5$ .... you pay soma good money and what you get you can read on the article.
     
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    Which one of you just posted this lol

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  13. wowhaxor

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    I understand the article was talking about about how services here are often just arbitrage, fiverr gigs compiled and overpriced and resold; I disagree with this most of these are done with VAs and are at least a notch over fiverr gigs which are mostly just automated blasts of much lower quality links, as an example the blog comments you'd get off fiverr - the seller has probably blasted every client to the same blog list for the last 2 years, blog posts with 200K comments, etc. But the article also heavily mentions quality of almost everything. Calling it all low quality, etc., but I'm pointing out that the quality is exactly what should be expected for the price and is what is advertised also. He complains about the articles (of course they're spun for that price), about the profiles, about all the links really and its complaints I hear from others as well. I don't know what people expect for those kinds of prices?
     
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    I know, wasn't having a go at you or anything, like reading your posts and overall bhw has taught me how to make proper pbns/web 2.0s/find expired web 2.0s so I guess I'll call it even lol.

    But in all honesty I think the marketplace is a joke, understand what you're saying but a lot of the buyers here are noobs and don't understand what should cost what,what should be tier 2 or how well google can detect shitty links etc. Just had another fuk off with 200$ of my money for making a non existent amazon affiliate site.
    Having a mod call sape white hat now I know what I do now (not much) is just mind blown, will go find the thread tomorrow.

    In developed countries (like yours and mine) we have laws against mis selling anything for online/offline sales, not sure why they can't do the same on here, atleast not calling pbns white hat would be a start, atleast ones with spun content and a shit load of outbound links anyway. And you can go look, lots/most are called white hat and no doubt lots of noobs with legit businesses are having their website that they've probably paid way too much for in the first place destroyed
     
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    Yeah, I think wowhaxors absolutely right. It's about the expectations and misunderstanding. However, what people expect for those kinds of prices is the world! haha.

    But who really cares what the hell some guy writing for ahrefs thinks anyway?
     
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    oops. I'm against shti sellers here and against aherfs there, nearly as argumentative as capi whatever hes called lol
     
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    If anybody wants to read their ?Little Blue Link Building Book? then here it is:

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    I seriously don't understand the purpose of this article. It is nothing more than verbal diarrhea. Even paid guest blogging is against Google TOS, unless it is meant for driving traffic and branded as sponsored post.

    The simple fact is he could not digest the fact that someone in BHW is making close to 500,000 dollars.. He says that he could replicate the same kind of service at a lower cost using Fiverr. So, essentially he wants people to use fiverr gigs instead of this service. Just meaningless rants from a whiner..
     
  19. Zwielicht

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    This is a black hat SEO forum, not a black hat hacking forum...

    Edit: Ugh, it's a bot...
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...izing-bhw-backlinks-services.html#post8577535
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...izing-bhw-backlinks-services.html#post8577523
     
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    Crap Bot reported.