ADVICE NEEDED: with a 250k optin email list

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Hi guys

I have a 250k email opt-in list.... i am not sure how to montize it.

Right now all my sites are making money from adsense and affiliate sales.

- What would be the best way to monetize this list? :confused:

- What system would you reccomend to send it from?
 
Hey craigs, I'm new to IM and email marketing in general, but you might want to take a look at the following thread:

[edit] ok, i can't post the link because i'm new. the post is from member "dog-tag". his 200th post.

Specifically:

Every so often I throw in an offer for something but I don't alienate my readers... My content is always relative, good, and my emails unsubscribe rate is about 0.5%. REMEMBER THIS - It's better to not send an email sometimes, than to send a bad one and have 1,000's unsubscribe.

so perhaps it is applicable to you in the same way: send a CPA offer or something similar in every few emails.

with 250k if you have relevant CPA deals you can get a LOT of conversions. wowza.. good luck

[edit 2]: in that same thread i mentioned previously, the OP uses a pirated version of interspire mass mailer (he took from download section)
 
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Well with a large list like that I must ask whether it is targeted or not.

If it is:

Target it's niche with weekly newsletters on HOT subjects happening in that niche, and of course drop one RELEVANT (can't stress it enough) CPA ad. I hope it's dating because that would be the absolute easiest to convert.

However, if it is untargeted, I high suggest you begin to create quizzes or trackable apps to somewhat create a targeted list out of them. Be cordial and continually cater to their needs.


DO NOT BECOME A BOTHER TO THEM. You don't want to lose your opt-ins.
 
Hey thanks for the tips

also it took me 3 years to make this list
 
Do you checked if u have buyers on the list?

If so, I can pay $500 per 1500 clicks ( depends of how much buyers u have. )

PM ME with detailed info about ur list
 
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- What would be the best way to monetize this list? :confused:

- What system would you reccomend to send it from?

So you collected it using a hosted solution? Is it single or double opt in?

Promoting offer is easy but mailing them properly will not.
 
OP - Brainstorm gave you a lot of great information and the least you could have done is hit the thanks button for him. The button doesn't mean much to someone but when it is your first, it means that others appreciate your input.

As I said, he gave a lot of great info. You will need to mail to them often enough to remove the bad email addresses. Don't be too concerned with the unsubscribes. After all, they are only removing their name from THAT list. You can add their name to another list on another server late on once you think of something good that you want to promote.

If you want to send one mailing per month to the 250k, you can do a very slow campaign using Interspire and shared hosting. You will be able to send around 250-500/hour. If you need more than that, you should get a VPS account so that you can crank it up to 1500.

Be sure to keep a backup of your processed emails. This is your gold - protect it.

Consider breaking your list into multiple servers. That will help you protect yourself and increase your rate.

I hope that helps.
 
Hi guys

I have a 250k email opt-in list.... i am not sure how to montize it.

Right now all my sites are making money from adsense and affiliate sales.

- What would be the best way to monetize this list? :confused:

- What system would you reccomend to send it from?

I sent you a PM..plz check it out!
 
If that list is targeted, you will make BANK! Otherwise, not much hope.
 
Add targeted affiliate offer links to the emails. That's what we do. How often do you send to the list? If often, rotate the offers to keep it fresh for your readers.
 
I saw someone buying professional emails on a hire a freelancer site, 6$/500emails. that is a lot of money for a 250k email list.
 
1 - If it took you three years to compile the list (no offence), but chances are more than 1/2 that list is dead.

2 - opt-in isn't the best, right off the bat, at least 25% of them are dead, now if they where double opt-in, then they would be worth some money(to promote). As opt-in emails are simply just this - user fills out the email form and hits submit. Now, Double opt-in email's the user fills out the email form, and then is asked to confirm their email address via clicking on a link that is sent to their email.

With double opt-in emails you know two things.
1) the email is 100% valid(unless they close the account)
2) generally people are most likely to use the email they use the most as it's the first one that comes to mind, even if they have a throw-away email for such things, they usually type in their most used email just out of habit.

3 - If they are untargeted, god know's what their interested in. My advice would be this - send them an email a MAX of 3 times per WEEK meaning -Monday, Wednesday, Friday, OR Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. or whatever combination suits you the most. Just NEVER email them two days in a row(if you care about the list). See what works the best, take the top 3, get CUSTOM creatives for them, get someone that knows what their doing to write up a sales pitch(even if it's just an email submit).

4 - Make sure you send from white listed hosts, or properly throttle your sending, don't go for quick and fast to bang it out, remember, slow and steady wins the race. Make sure to setup your MX records properly as well. Also, make sure EVERY variant of the message is UNIQUE from the previous one sent, at least 30% unique. Never send to @yahoo, or @gmail or anything back to back, if it's yahoo and gmail only, bounce back yahoo - gmail - yahoo - gmail etc. less chance of you getting sent to spam. Even with the creatives - have them setup on different domains, even if their .info's as if any email your sending to, if they see the same exact thing coming from the same domain(the image) they will RBL(realtime blacklist) your domain, then from that email that got you rbl'ed the rest of them will be sent to spam as well.

Things to do before sending -
Send a simple email to them to clean out the bounces(non-valid emails)
Setup the MX record properly
Get a few .info domain's to rotate the creatives and links to do the redirect

On the server - do one (or both) of the following.
Get multiple servers to switch back and forth with for each email
Pro: Will allow you to send out faster the more servers you have
Con: Cost more money

Have the server auto-rotate IP's on the sending domain(s) and on the image(creative) hosting URL's.
Pro: Cheaper, simpler(to manage).
Con: Need someone to make you a custom script - can take some time.


As far as getting a service -
Aweber - they don't allow a "random list"
Pro: White listed servers - in turn makes it all simpler
Con: don't allow a random list, meaning the only emails you can send to are ones that opt-in through their method also, it can be very expensive.

Constant Contact - Same as aweber.

Interspire - personally I have never used it so I can't say good or bad.
Pro: n/a
Con: n/a

MailChimp - personally my favorite other than a custom setup, only downfall its "branded" right in the email in the footer.
Pro: Free(up to I believe 12,000 emails per month), easy to use and they clean the list right as you upload it so that means they do all of the "grunt work" out of it, also the servers are white listed with all major providers(yahoo, gmail etc)
Con: It's branded in the footer(in the free version)

But as always with emailing - MAKE SURE YOU ARE CAN-SPAM COMPLIANT not only for the legality of it, but it will help you hit inbox better.
Code:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus61-can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business

Code:
Don't use false or misleading header information. 
Your "From," "To," "Reply-To," and routing information
- including the originating domain name and email address
- must be accurate and identify the person or business who
initiated the message.

Don't use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must 
accurately reflect the content of the message.

Identify the message as an ad. The law gives you a lot of
 leeway in how to do this, but you must disclose clearly 
and conspicuously that your message is an advertisement.

Tell recipients where you're located. Your message must 
include your valid physical postal address. This can be 
your current street address, a post office box you've 
registered with the U.S. Postal Service, or a private 
mailbox you've registered with a commercial mail receiving 
agency established under Postal Service regulations.

Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future email 
from you. Your message must include a clear and conspicuous
 explanation of how the recipient can opt out of getting 
email from you in the future. Craft the notice in a way 
that's easy for an ordinary person to recognize, read, and
 understand. Creative use of type size, color, and location
 can improve clarity. Give a return email address or another
 easy Internet-based way to allow people to communicate their
 choice to you. You may create a menu to allow a recipient 
to opt out of certain types of messages, but you must include
 the option to stop all commercial messages from you. Make 
sure your spam filter doesn't block these opt-out requests.

Honor opt-out requests promptly. Any opt-out mechanism you 
offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 
30 days after you send your message. You must honor a 
recipient's opt-out request within 10 business days. You 
can't charge a fee, require the recipient to give you any 
personally identifying information beyond an email address, 
or make the recipient take any step other than sending a 
reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website
 as a condition for honoring an opt-out request. Once people 
have told you they don't want to receive more messages from 
you, you can't sell or transfer their email addresses, even 
in the form of a mailing list. The only exception is that you 
may transfer the addresses to a company you've hired to help 
you comply with the CAN-SPAM Act.

Monitor what others are doing on your behalf. The law makes 
clear that even if you hire another company to handle your 
email marketing, you can't contract away your legal 
responsibility to comply with the law. Both the company whose 
product is promoted in the message and the company that actually
 sends the message may be held legally responsible.
If you have any questions just contact me and ill answer questions for you.
 
Good stuff, zero-day. Rep given.

I'd like to see more people such as yourself discussing email marketing. It was a great topic while it was here.

I make 100% of my income from email marketing so not having an active community to discuss it with is a bummer.
 
Zero-Day i appreciate the info - will look into it.

How do you ensure MX RECORDS are setup right? as you suggested. I am using a bulk email program probably to contact them again. Only 300 emails a day..nothing crazy..
 
You can do that on the server in cPanel. Also, check into mxtoolbox (.com). You can run domain and IP reports to test for SPF and MX records.

If you are using a desktop app and using Hotmail or Yahoo accounts, you will be limited as to what additional features you can modify. If you are mailing using your domain URL and email address, you can do rDNS, MX, DKIM, Domain Keys, and SPF.
 
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