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Adult Website - Upsell?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SpellZ, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    I have a small adult website with a friend of mine.
    We get a new girl every week, she does a solo show by herself and with objects. Does the whole striptease thing, you name it. We charge $24.99/month, and have about 500ish people who do the monthly subscription.

    We want to increase our sales and came up with something...
    We want to do up sells.

    Which means that when a person signs up for the $24.99/month, they have other "check marks" on what they want to receive as an extra.

    A DVD sent home for an extra $9.99
    A Poster sent home for an extra $12.99
    A picture of the model writing on her breast whatever you want for $7.99

    So my question is a 2 part question.

    The first one is, what else can we add to the list?

    And the second question (more important one) is when they do the checkout, should all the option be already checked out, and the price will be $50+/month, and if they don't like it, they can cross it out, or should it be at $24.99, and if they want to.. they can add more?

    So either
    A) Have everything selected at $50ish, and they unselect if they want to
    or
    B) Have everything deselect it at $24.99 and they select if they want it


    We'll be doing split testing for both.
    But wondering what might work better so we can try it first.

    Cheers
     
  2. negligence

    negligence Regular Member

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    Heya SpellZ, glad to see another pervy here!

    I would go with Option B, but have an intermediate page in the checkout that says "WOULD YOU ALSO BE INTERESTED IN...", that way they're forced to look at it.

    Option A is just asking for unnecessary charge backs, unfortunately.

    I'd also like to talk to you about something on your site though. Expect a PM.

     
  3. Grizzy

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    I would think option b, but split testing is obviously the way to go. You also might want to consider another test with a trial membership of some kind and seeing how the rebills work out for you. Just a thought.

    Like negligence says: worry more about getting that initial commitment and then up/cross-sell like crazy on a second page and inside the members area.
     
  4. Oxycodone30mg

    Oxycodone30mg BANNED BANNED

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    You just do solos or is it everything? I want to start my own adult site. I've done a ton of porn shoots myself so know how it works and I have some Tube sites to feed traffic. Lacking capital to get it up though
     
  5. ``Yousef

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    From what I've heard with recent FTC regulations kicking in, up-selling without a reconfirmation, or without user choice in manually selecting the up sold packages, can land you in a fair spot of trouble.

    Why not try this,

    1) Split test $24.99 for the regular deal, and $50 for the whole thing, on an A/B equality level. So, 100 visitors sent to page A, 100 to page B, who ultimately puts more net profit in your pocket.

    2) Start it off with $50, and then have a clear option for them to be down sold to the regular deal.

    In my opinion, 2 sounds like the sweetest way to go.

    EDIT: Also, David's got some good ideas. Think about more up-sells you can offer them, and while you're at it, why not pay with price, and find the right point of volume x price where you're effecting the jingling coins/dollar bills in your pockets the most.

    If you have 50 new subscribers a month each paying $24.99, why not try kick that up to $34.99 at which 36 sales would give you the same amount in $.

    @seo_compensation. I'd love to know how many fucking weirdos out there would pay for used panties. I've heard theres certain markets for soiled panties which takes shit to a whole new level, no pun intended.
     
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  6. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    Yeah, solo is the easiest for us to find.
    They also don't charge as much as they would for 2 girls, guy/girl, etc. And don't even get me started if you want to get into a certain fetish category like BDSM, etc. The cost of that is an arm and a leg. But I'm sure you know since you're on the shoots all day.

    The current hottest markets are:
    Teen
    Amature
    Anal
    Transexual
    and tin tin tin, our winner is... GAY

    Bigges current hottest niche for the past 3+ years, its GAY.

    But you know... some people love to enjoy their job, and shooting gay isn't for me.

    To asnwer your second question, yes, a capital is required.

    You need a good hosting website
    You need a killer graphic designer
    You need a killer security system
    Camera equipment (HD)
    A good space to shoot it at
    An office (so your billing wont come home).
    The girls
    Camera man
    Editor
    Graphic Designer to update
    SEO

    and tons tons more.

    But you can always take a different approach and use your creativity.

    There is nothing from stopping you for renting a girl for 8HRS, and doing about 10 shows with her in 1 day.
    Within 2 weeks, you'll shoot enough content for the entire year!

    + If you make it "Amature Solo", your set.
    Shitty camera, random enivornment, her filming it...

    Creativity as its best.

    What I've done though is I first created a 'nightclub dating' website that has over 40,000+ thus far, plus I have people giving out over 20,000+ business cards with the website every weekend.

    So I got 500+ members within 2 weeks.
    So think long-term and you'll do good bro!
     
  7. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    I heard about this before.
    Well something similar.

    I heard that a girl use to take morning jogs, sweat, and then sell her panties for $20 or something. The idea is amazing, but I see certain types of flaws which I am not sure how they work. I'll wriite it down now, and maybe I can see how they solved it.

    So my problem is this...
    Let's say you have one girl running in the morning, and lets say she even does it in the afternoon, and evening. She buys 30 panties in bulk for $30.
    So on the first day she runs three times, $20/pantie, -$30, total of $30/day1
    $90/day2
    $150/day3
    $1620/Day30
    So the girl makes $1620 in revenue by the end of Day 30
    - Hosting
    - Graphic Design
    - A camera man of her running (add-on)
    - Sending a package to the customer

    So let's say after a couple of blowjobs she is pocketing in PURE PROFIT around $1500/month

    in ideal world it sounds great.
    You run, get healthy, get paid, and left with zero dignity.
    + The girl can, in 1 day, do 4 morning movies, 4 afternoon movies, 4 evening movies. She just needs a good set of lungs.

    Let's say I do it with one girl, we split it 50/50
    I'll pocket $700/month.

    To get at least $5000/month, I'll need around 7 Girls.
    PLUS, I need to make sure they sell on daily basis.

    Shit... So much trouble...
    But if its scaled up..
    Hmm....
     
  8. thesmashge

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    You can visit one of the adult fiver clone sites like naughtyassistant to see what the girls are selling....Just to get a idea of things that can be done.

    I have a adult site...I need a Girl to do a five minute video just talking about my site and about my fetish(niche).

    Will it be possible for you to do this service at some fixed cost and give the Selling rights to me?
    Pls PM me if interested.
     
  9. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    thesmashge, naughtyassistan.com is closed.

    And as far as the girl goes, if its her just talking, etc.
    I'll give it to you free of charge.
     
  10. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    seo compensation, your idea sounds great.
    And being an actual account makes it that much better.

    Sad to say, I don't have any background in solo girls sucking on lollipops.

    I dig the idea though...

    My concern is the time frame on the panties and all.
    Let's say 200+ people sign up, does that mean all 200 get panties?
    That does mean she needs to be on webcam for 30+ hours a week? (if its 10 minutes a show)

    EDIT: Nevermind, I get it. You hire talent. Ok. let me think it thru
     
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  11. CLmoney

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    Option B to lower chargebacks in my opinion
     
  12. ilanru

    ilanru BANNED BANNED

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    "A Million Dollars isn't cool, you know what's cool, a Billion Dollars! :china:
    "The Social Network"
    =]
     
  13. _richard_

    _richard_ Newbie

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    good idea, but i'd think the dvds might be an issue depending on the content and where you are sending

    i have some ideas i'd like to discuss if you'd like to hit me up -> 486768112
     
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  14. Commission King

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    DO yall offer advertising on your website?...if so, How much is the price?...Im an affiliate for Male & female Enhancement products and Pheromones...Along with Acai flush weight loss. Sell to your ladies?
     
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    hahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!