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A new beginning...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Dillusion, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

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    As some of you may already know, I've been a member of this forum for a couple of months now, when I first signed up here, I was already vaguely aware of the most basic aspects of the world of internet marketing, I understood the most known concepts of how the money online was being made. Obviously when I came across this forum, I soon realize that my understanding about this market was indeed very limited, in other hand I also understood that despite of my surface knowledge of this whole business, I probably was better informed than 90% to 95% of the entirety of internet users who at some point aspired or thought about making money online.

    It was at this point that I allowed emotion to corrupt my thought process, I quit my job as assistant manager at a bicycle store because I was convinced I could make an equivalent income working in the internet, as a result, I rapidly found myself in a situation where everything and everyone was against me, my wife was continuously tormenting me about finding a new job, my parents and my mother-in-law decided to have a conversation with me trying to find out what was going wrong with me (as I later found out they were assuming that I was on drugs, something which I have never did in my life), the longer I tried to explain that I was working in an online business, the longer they all thought I was hiding something and lying to them all, in a few weeks time, my wife and my 2 kids left me.

    At this point I started to realize certain things about the nature of everything around me, the falsehoods of the closest people, the weak bond of family, friendship, love and blood, which seems to break so easily under the most fragile circumstances.

    I realized there was nothing more to it, I was alone, still, at first, all I wanted was to prove them wrong, to show them all that the reasons I decided to quit my job was nothing more than the truth and that I could make that same truth my new way of living, later on, nothing and nobody seemed to matter to me anymore, my sole objective was to be left alone, it was around here that depression started to take the hold of me, I spend hours in a row watching movies, eating in front of the TV and the rest you can imagine, the money that I had started to vanish, I started to look myself in the mirror and I perceived that I had to make a change in my life, in my perception I had failed in internet marketing, so I started looking for a job once again, I began handing out CV's and sometime later I received a few interview requests, it was on one of these days that my life drastically changed, as I was driving to an interview to an electronics component factory, a drunk guy was speeding in the opposite lane and bumped against my car at over 100 Km/h, I was in a comma for 2 weeks and the other guy was projected out of the window having and instant dead, at least that was what I was told, when I woke from the coma I had 2 broken ribs and my left knee cap completely shattered, I was told that I had to go through at least 3 different surgeries to be able to move my leg again and even then I could very well need a walking stick through the rest of my life.

    I'm aware I could have been paralyzed or even dead, but the mere fact that this happened to me, made me thought about everything, I've currently have gone through the first surgery only, still have other two to go, and although the insurance is paying all the medical expenses, I still need to pay my debts, and this is where my questions start, I've realized that I've made everything wrong the first time I even tried internet marketing, I was euphoric and irrationally blind, the sheer number or posts on this forum of people claiming to be making $100-$500 a day with such an ease completely overwhelmed me, as I later realized, most of these posts are of wannabe kids (yes, this forum is full of those) that post everything to gain some recognition, I've become aware that even though some of these kids are making money, it's only a handful of them, and that the real money is being made by those who say nothing about it, those who brainstorm all day long, instead of making fake claims or posting overused obsolete methods.

    It is this persons that I would respectfully ask their opinion and advice about my current situation, I currently have to spend 5 hours a day in physiotherapy sessions, the rest of my time is mostly spent here, I would like, if possible the advice in the following matters.


    Sorry for the long post and thanks for anyone who reads it and is either able or willing to answer me these questions.

    Thanks

    Dillusion
     
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  2. Dev!Licious

    Dev!Licious Registered Member

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    Hey, I'm very sorry for all that happened to you and for all that you have been through. Although I am no pro, I thought I could offer you some support after all that. I wish you the very best of luck and if there is anything I could do, please let me know. I would be more than happy to help.
     
  3. BlackFiTTed

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    After reading your post I would say: start learning about article marketing... not the coolest thing but it works and judging from the way you write you shouldn't have that much of a problem with it. Pick a network (Clickbank, CPA etc.) and then get educated about how the article game goes. You should be make money even with low tech skills.
     
  4. dizz

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    if we can do anything to help let us know i can relate to what your saying . good luck with rehabing your leg.
     
  5. MandatoryMagic

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    We really need to make a sticky post here saying not to quit your job and to not expect real earnings till 6-12 months.
     
  6. tygoldberg

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    see the post below this one.

    I think you should find a job and do IM p/t
     
  7. Dillusion

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    Thanks for your support, all I really wanted is for someone to answer me sincerely about the questions I posed above, and if possible to give me some opinion or advice on some threads or ebooks that I should read or marketing methods that I should most definitely try.

    That is all really, the rest I'm aware that depends fully on me and my commitment to the work that I do.

    I would also like to comment on this thread:

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    It apparently was posted as an indirect response to my thread, and for everyone who paid the minimal attention to my thread could understand that my situation was not directly caused by the fact that I left my job to try IM, it was due to how people around me reacted and completely thrown me away from my rationality, I was abandoned by my wife, my kids (I'm sure any parent here can understand what this feels like), my family turned their backs on me, including my parents, and this all happened not because I was failing with my responsibilities, no, it was because nobody believed the mere fact that what I was saying was even truth, because for all of them internet marketing was so absurd as making a living out of playing roulette, and they all began accusing me of lying, of being on drugs of having an affair, and so forth, when I quit my job I had enough savings to keep everything going for at least 8 months, my thought at the time was, "I will give this a try for some 6 months full time, if I fail to make any money, I will go back and find another job", but everything went wrong, not because I tried IM and failed, but because nobody allowed me to begin with it in the first place, a few weeks after I've decided to quit, my wife left me, and then everything else happened, when depression got the best of me, I didn't even turn back to think about IM again.

    The way I see things right now is that if I failed at something it was on believing that the bond I had with my family was something more than a business.

    Anyway, if anyone can give me a tip about my questions I will be mostly thankful.
     
  8. thestrangefruit

    thestrangefruit Regular Member

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    You're pathetic, sorry but you can't expect sympathy from people. You're right about one thing. The ones that do make money don't talk about it. We also don't read forums all day and tell are life story. Suck it up and use your brain. 99% of work is thinking and planning from every possible fucking angle. Good Luck
     
  9. thestrangefruit

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    Most plausible and easiest way (method, freelance or company) to start working online as either a job or a business? Mimic one that is working.

    I'm from Spain, what kind of companies can I work with, legally? Google.

    How do the taxes work in internet marketing, what earnings do I have to declare and what can I hide? Spain is as bad as america. Hide using foreign paypal/moneybookers etc the list goes on. Use offshore banking. Easy to set up.

    What areas am I obligated to have a certain degree of expertise? (considering I know nothing of both programming and web-design)
    For how long shall I insist with a certain method until I realize it is useless or over saturated? Go to a fucken bookstore or use warez to get the books you need. Figure it out.

    What tools, programs am I obligated to have, and how can I get them for a relatively small amount? Make them yourself. Cheapest and easiest way. If not, stop being a cheap ass and get some credit cards to get you started. Pay day loans?

    Good Luck.
     
  10. super11

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    Hope you find someone pro replying to your concerns. It's great that you have decided to hang on despite all your problems. There is light at the end of each tunnel.

    Remember, God's delay is not his denial. Wish you a speedy recovery as well.
     
  11. Scotland

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    WTF??

    thestrangefruit...WTF??

    I think the guy has had a hard enough time without you jumping in and down his throat!! What gives you the right to swear and ridicule somebody with your "fucking" 11 posts??..

    You clearly didnt have anything helpful or informative to offer the guy so why reply with that shit??.

    Anywayz...

    Hope you get better soon mate, ive been at it a while myself and havent yet found "the way" that works for me...but i wont give up either!!...Good luck to you pal..

    J
     
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  12. justsomeguy

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    fair enough call Scotland, with you on that Dillusion doesn't need people bagging him more. best advice i can give is get motivated, try it no matter what it is and don't give up.
     
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  13. Dillusion

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    Thank you for both your replies, I'm actually beginning to focus myself right now and getting some work done!

    Hopefully it will pay of.

    Thanks

    Dillusion
     
  14. thestrangefruit

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    My second post was informative. My 11 post shows that I don't hang out on a forum all day. Can't say the same for you...
     
  15. osmose01

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    never give up for what you believing , i have my company in france and im about to use some blackhat to get some cash , because i dont see other exit right now and that all because one client fucked us me and my associate (lack of professionalism on both side)...

    I think everything which happen in your life has a purpose , it like open your eye and try to transcript what the life said to you.

    You are not the fake one , they are , you did nothing wrong , you was just ambitious and trying to give a better future to your kid your familly and your parents.
    If you have some question about taxe i maybe can answer you , i think it pretty similar in EU.
    Mean bunch of tax everywhere ... vat etc.

    I think when you trying a new method , if it working you will see some quick fast result at least small one but result.

    i started my company oriented to service for particular to fix pc but it didnt worked at all, later i was doing some computer graphic it worked fine but the client werent serious enough , finally i ended coding a neverending project for 9 month in java javascript ajax using oracle and a fucking homemade framework from my associate which is a complete mess undocumented shit.
    hopefully a friend of mine saved my company and give me some time to gather my shit , i have like 2 month to make the company running , the tax will be equivalent to 4 month ( +4000€ ) for only approxymatly 10k ...
     
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  16. Scotland

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    Good to hear your still hanging in mate....

    In times of turmoil, i usually try to listen to something motivating and inspiring to keep me going...Anything that stirrs emotion within you and makes you feel good, is something to hang on to....

    I loved the post somewhere in bhw, it was a clip of the film boiler room....that usually gets me going....

    Or Pursuit of happyness is another film that gets me inspired, "dont let anyone ever tell you you cant do something...people cant do something themselves they wanna tell you you cant do it...you got a dream, you gotta protect it...you want something...go get it....PERIOD!!"...LOVE IT...

    For me, its looking at my kids and knowing im at least out there trying to get them a better life....everyone to their own...

    Good luck pal....
     
  17. Therookie

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    Hey I been the same
    Not managed to make money from BH only $25 ewhoring tried it a week ago
    Not set up auto methods yet no money jobless 11 months thinking my house will sell I will pay my spent remortgage back giving me some money to go Japan or China to find wife sell all that lovely stuff they have recover my losses.
    waiting a year for bicycle accident payout cocksuckers offering me £1000 for two and half months pain and invalidity now they say oh we are backdated working on it. So I lost my job coz of this accident and £10,000 loss of work.Fuck man fuck you cocksuckers if it happened to YOU YOU would not accept a measly £1000

    I just know I will get cancer like my mother next such is my cursed life past six years.

    Therr is LITTLE light at the tunnel where someone just MIGHT buy my house.

    But you survive man I learned that but something gotta happen soon or Im going under
     
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  18. mccullum

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    i recommend this to people who are willing to do a shit load of work :
    post articles to ezine articles and promote a product.I have seen people make 100 to 200 per day just through article marketing - but yes,they were also submitting like 10 to 15 articles per day.If you do not mind spending that much time for writing articles.try out this method.I agree that this takes a lot of time but you will see results.Also remember that the product selection is very very important - do not blame me if you choose the wrong method.If you choose the right niche that converts well and if you spend writing 10 to 15 articles per day ,you will DEFINITELY make money - you can use this money later for buying web sites on flippa.com or some other investing.This is just my suggestions.I know that there are several methods that do not need so much work to make money but i have not tried them because i have some other methods that require hell lot of work.And yes they make me money and so iam happy.Take care man.And be focussed if you want to make money.Without a strategy and a target,you will not win in IM.cheers.