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A hello from China

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by urbanzen, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. urbanzen

    urbanzen Junior Member

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    Hi guys, just want to intro myself a little, before I can hope to contribute to the forum.

    I'm a Canadian that got relocated to China due to work, been here for 6 years now. I've missed the internet million boat when it first started (I started way back in 1998 online, but wasted all that time on Diablo), and been working as a software slave. I tought that being 30, I really only have about 5 years to make it on the net, before I give up on dreaming on making it big, and instead join the thousands of mundane lemmings, slaving away at their mortgage.

    China has a lot of opportunities, being
    1) it has a 13billion population, relatively young towards the internet
    2) I have access to super cheap products with quality being class A, to knockoffs.
    3) I have access to all sorts of manufacturers here, and understands the way, and the necessary "under the table" etiquettes, when dealing with them.


    I'm hoping to learn, and take part in discussions here, implement techniques, make friends, start joint ventures, and liven up the mood in here!


    It's still way too early, but if anyone is interested in entreprenurship and joint ventures, please do let me know! I'm quite careful, and do a lot of research when dealing with partnership, but once I know that your goals are determined, and the success rate is high, you'll find that I'm very effective (having many years experience running online stores, and reading up on online marketing, and dealing with manufacturers)

    Enough rambling. Thanks for the opportunity guys!

    Urban
     
  2. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    Welcome to the show, Urban.
     
  3. popcrdom29

    popcrdom29 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi urbanzen and welcome to the bhw. I bet it's very interesting in China. I've traveled many places but China isn't one of them. Places I've been to are Mexico, Tokyo, Okinawa, Thailand, S. Korea, Territory of Guam and on the other side of the world to Germany. Traveling is fun, I love it.

    I hope you find bhw rewarding.
     
  4. vcd0304

    vcd0304 Junior Member

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    Welcome urban,

    My parents were born in china too, living in hk now (i'm in Aust).
    I know there are lots of "Under the table" deals | "relationship" + "money" = underground $$

    nway, nice to meet you
     
  5. creztor

    creztor Power Member

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    Likewise urban. Hello to you from the "free China" aka Taiwan :) You are right there is lots of opportunity in China you just need to find it.
     
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    Welcome urbanzen, enjoy your stay
     
  7. todaydvd

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    Welcome urban, is there many website cannot be accessed from china?
     
  8. themagician

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    urbanzen, If I might respectfully request you change that thinking please:

    I made my first serious 'fortune' during the years I was 19-25 years-old. Early 30's, I moved to Spain and made a second fortune in the property boom and now in Thailand supposedly to semi-retire, I am already on track to make between $500,000 - $1 million/per year, non of it Internet related. My Internet earnings are substantial but much more modest but will soar when I release a new product later this year, whose 'time has come'.

    Many multi-millionaires only made it big after failing several times even to the point of bankruptcy so please, especially for me at my sensitive age, do not even begin to think you are past making it at 30-35-years-old...and when you make it late, you'll appreciate it more.

    PS Isn't living in Asia wicked?

    themagician
     
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    creztor Power Member

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    Living in Asia is wicked themagician but only when you don't have to teach English to annoying kids :)
     
  10. jaivy

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    welcome urbanzen,i'm a Chinese,i'm living in ChengDu,where the earthquake occurred in 5.12.2008,you may know.
    i agree with you that China has a lot of opportunities


    todaydvd;you're right,our ISP always block IPs,but we can surf the web via VPN or proxy.:(


    sorry for my pool english.
     
  11. jamesdin

    jamesdin Junior Member

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    welcome to the forum,
    if you will offer dropshipping, write it in the forum, you may get some results..
     
  12. themagician

    themagician Regular Member

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    '...Point taken creztor. I used to teach for ten years in England, but I was smart. All my students were girls aged 16 -21. Still surprised I wasn't arrested, struck off and castrated.

    themagician
     
  13. Stealthmonkey88

    Stealthmonkey88 Newbie

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    hi urbanzen, I been in China this summer for vacation. It wasnt pretty, the government censor alot of sites. I wasnt able to go 30% of sites that I usually go to and the internet speeds are really slow for majority of English based site. But I was able to find a software that bypass the censorship, if you need it just tell me. I still have it on my pc.
     
  14. atulas

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    hi urbanzen,i'm a Chinese in Chengdu(成都).

    Government build a "Great Fire Wall",ban many IP,because there are some SEX and anti-Communist Website

    But we could surf any website by proxy and VPN

    If you want build a website for Chinese ,you can host your website in Hangkong Singapore Japan

    Welcome to China! Welcome to Beijing 2008!
     
  15. xavierit

    xavierit Newbie

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    I've got something going on in China and always looking for new sources and webmasters.
    PM me and we might share some 'Tips&tricks'.
     
  16. urbanzen

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    Honestly? I don't like most of it. The comm**u**n*****ist era did a lot of damage towards the mentality of the folks here, and they've been pushed back 10 years in terms of technology, and 20 years in terms of EQ. General rudeness, selfishness and laziness are higher in % in the population, than anywhere else I've lived in (and I've lived in a lot of places in asia).

    There's not enough trees and other green stuff, so I eat dust, smog, CO2, and all that goodness every day, in a super-high population density city.

    Even though there are a lot of choices for food here, the stuff I eat (because I'm a cheap bastard) at the office has a lot of oil and grease. CHEAP FOOD AND DRINKS though!

    Urban
     
  17. urbanzen

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    Wow, thanks for the welcome guys. You'll make a grown man cry!! *curls into a fetal position*

    Overwhelming response! *hardon*


    @********
    Naw I'm in Beijing, but yeah will definitely hit you with a PM when I wake up tomorrow, it's 1am and I'm full of sweat and mosquito bites. And yes I do speak fluent chinese. The locals tend to laugh at me though, so...

    @creztor
    Thanks for the welcome dude! We should hook up more often, just because you're a Tai, and I have zero Tai friends. And kudos to you for knowing the #1 most common/hated/pissed on jobs for Expats here, are teaching.

    @other various chinese blackhatters
    Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Good to see the blackhatter scene in China taking flight!

    @todaydvd
    Yeah lots, but with the olympics coming up, the govt are losening the slack a little. I can surf wikipedia and bloggers now, yes yum..

    @m2jiang
    I just use Tor and proxies =) , China also has a lot of VPN services too. China's a country famous for ripping off other's ideas, and massproduction and mass spread, hence getting softwares, totally free, is super easy if you're just a bit more savvy than the average joe.

    @atulas
    Glad to meet you. It's hard to see a non-baidu, pro-english SEOer in here.

    @jamesdin
    I'm a man of opportunity, dropshipping's done along with my company's international B2B site, so yes, I'll read through the forum, then draft up a few proposals, and prop them into the forums for everyone to discuss, and give feedback on.

    @xavierit
    Thank you. I'll drop you a PM within the next week.
     
  18. urbanzen

    urbanzen Junior Member

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    Magician's post is so inspiring to me, that I'd like to thank you personally for sharing your story with me and us..

    I'm just very worried of the "get job->find girl, marry, mortgage house and car, kids, mortgage colledge, morgage kid's house and car" route. I've also been scammed by fake joint ventures, that siphoned off literally half of my life savings (I've worked for 10 years), bad experience with SEO companies, and also coaches. You can see that I do all the proper stuff to try to establish my wealth(VC,coach,outsourcing), but each route ends up me being burnt. Hence I do have a low self-esteem, when it comes to making money online.

    You're in Thailand! That's where AMWSO is headquartered..my site's affiliate programs are handled by them..Hot but very interesting country, one that I hope to holiday in, in the near future.

    My goal for these few years, are to develop wealth, establish ventures with similar caliber, and most importantly, make and meet a circle of folks to be great friends with (I'm really out of touch with society, with my 9 to 7 job). I believe that life revolves around power, family, friends, money, and fun.

    My main goal for the accumulated wealth, is to step away from online revenue, and into the entertainment (huge kareoke franchising in growing cities with entertainment demand), real estate, construction and dining sector (buying up plot of land in 3rd tier cities, turn it into a food or bar street, grow it into an entertainment sector, and hence raising it's land value). Construction has always been what I wanted to do since primary school, as I love skyscrapers, and other structures.

    Sensitive age? As long as your typing speed doesn't falter, you're still in your prime ;)
    You're also living in Thailand, with all the cheap weed, hookers and transverstites abundantly available! Just joking ;)

    Living in Asia, does rock. I love Malaysia the best.

    Urban
     
  19. eastado

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    welcome urbanzen. good to have you here.
     
  20. djedje70

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    none of ur fr#$%ing biz dude!!!
    A fellow canadian.
    Welcome aboard, it's a great place with lots of info and opportunity.

    There is so much you could do out there since you have access to a lot of products.

    Let us all know what your ideas are and partnership offers will come fast.

    Good luck