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99% of indexing services are a scam

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ghengis_khan, May 18, 2019.

  1. ghengis_khan

    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    Over the past few days I have been testing a bunch of indexing services. Unlike most people I have direct access to my nginx server/google-spider logs and the pages I want to index are all hosted by me. So I can see exactly when a google-spider visits my site.

    I've just tried 6 services....

    NOT ONE HAS SENT A SINGLE GOOGLE SPIDER TO MY SITES

    No clue what these services are supposed to be doing, but if google-spider doesn't visit your link... guess what... it won't get indexed.


    P.S
    Yes I replicated test with working methods/services and spiders arrived just fine.
     
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    AuraMarketing Power Member

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    True story.
    A week ago, I built some profile links. A few days ago I sent profile links to different indexing services and none of them were able to index the links till now. The only few that got indexed were the ones to which I send tier 2 links from ScrapeBox.
    I tried these indexing/pinging services for 1 URL each

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    bulklink.org
    pingomatic
    mass-ping.com
    onehourindexing [1 free link]
    indexkings.com
    indexification [paid tool]
     
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    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    the pages you got indexed were probably because the scrapebox comments attracted spiders... It seems to me that most indexing services are just flat out broken now but still operating
     
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    thetrustedzone Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    you could name the services you tried and which one worked and which one not ?
     
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    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    off the top of my head (not home at the moment) : instantlinkindexer, linklicious, onehourindexing were all completely dead .I tested some more but forgot the names, will update tomorrow or after the weekend
     
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    I used to own an indexing service; they just plain don't do what they did back then.

    Not sure of the processes those guys are implementing now but I know that it was a wise business move bailing out on the one I used to have a piece of.
     
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    I think also indexcification is dead .. none of the links are indexed
     
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    Yes most used to work extremely well. I remember instantlinkindexer being able to index 500k doorway-pages in under 30 minutes in 2014'ish. Around 2015 most of these services stopped working (from what I understand most were using some kind of loophole/glitch with video sitemaps to get things indexed that got fixed)

    Eventually I moved onto other (my own) solutions but recently decided to try a bunch again. I figured if there are still so many operating in 2019 then surely at least I'll get a few spiders out of it, right?

    I know no one can guarantee indexing, that's also not what I'm expecting. Just some visits from googlebot is what I'm after :D
     
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    BuildMoreLinks Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    most of the indexing services stopped working, the moment Google killed the "Add URL" feature.
    It's a lot tougher to index profile based links. But If you know where to drop the links, you can still get most of the indexed.

    Also, the case with most profile links is that they do have a "noindex" tag, so will never get indexed.
     
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    They might be indexed, but they won't send any robot to the destination site so the premise of "using an indexing site an checking for robots", if they have to come from nofollow sites, it's not it used to be before: now it's hardly impossible.

    From my point of view, and I would like to prove me wrong, this is like a catch 22: you have to punish yourself, indexing shit links from an authority site, instead of just indexing real links from the authority site. And you create an authority site, by indexing shitty links at first.

    Anywhere there should be, like always, tricky mechanisms to index shitty links without it being a hassle. Like the video sitemap link url injector (still working?) I have not done classic link building in the last 6 months, so I feel to bit a little bit outdated now.
     
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    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    regardless of what you are trying to index, nothing will happen with no spiders ;)

    It seems to me that the majority of indexing services KNOW FULL WELL that their services are doing jack shit, yet they just choose to sell anyway since 99,9% of people don't have access to spider-logs and thus probably won't have a clue what's going on.
     
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    Have you tried speed-links? I have used them and they seem to index most links. Although never with Tumblr's, nor a few other web 2.0's.
     
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    I'll give them a go.
     
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    I would be interested to know which ones failed. Did they all fail or just some?

    If you are clever you can trick the new inspection tool to index outside of the domain by injection methods.

    I have my own Indexer which uses these methods.

    However indexing percentages are certainly much lower these days, as google is much more selective now.

    Gone are the days when 70% index rates could be acheived on a bunch of spam links, but it's certainly easy to get the googlebot to visit the backlink from the inspection tool outside of the domain, you just need to be creative.

    The pinging method died last year. If you use xml to ping the google servers, you will see the denied msg come back to you, but you need to code your own bot for this. Any service using this method is totally dead.

    1 hour indexing I have never had any success in using it over the last 2 years.
     
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    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    as of now all but 1 have failed to bring 1 single visit from google-bot.

    Curious about your own methods, will pm you.
     
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    speed links is 100% ghengis_khan approved. Every page i submitted received a visit from google bot after processing.

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    Google for lack of a better word is WATCHING, LEARNING, AND ADAPTING. All they have to do is collect all the links processed by indexing services to find the rule breakers. Why shout out when you're breaking the rules creating backlinks?

    This is 2019 and you have to operate smarter for lasting rankings. Good links will index naturally, while borderline links might not. Also, just because it is indexed does not mean it will help you rank.

    In this day in age, it is not the quantity of backlinks but the quality.
     
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    I think you have missed the point. In this example all the pages I am indexing are on my own server. I am only checking to see if the indexing service is actually bringing a visit from google-bot.

    If google decides to actually "index" something in the search results is a completely different story. That is outside of their control. All they can technically do is make sure google-bot visits your site. That is the only thing I am checking.
     
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    DIY solution, I have money and a 'dummy' site. Both are in my GSC. On my 'dummy' site I have a 'resource' page with guess what, links. Each time I create new links I update the 'resource' page and resubmit the site map forcing google to re-crawl it. Works like a charm with a small number of links, don't know how it would work 100s or 1000s of links.

    linklicious, onehourindexing have been useless for at least a couple of years.
     
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