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6K sales in 3 months = £60K+, Need help..

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by tatung, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. tatung

    tatung Newbie

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    First some figures...

    UK Top40 Singles Chart
    (April - July) Sales Figures:
    #1 – 60K
    #20 – 12K
    #30 – 8K
    #40 – 6K
    #50 – 4K
    #60 – 3K
    #100 – 1500

    My background...I'm a music producer in the UK and have my own label, been doing this for about 6-7 years..

    The £££££..
    To get into the UK Top 40 you need around 6K downloads of your single first week, once your in top 40 you get coverage on every major radiostation/tv channel and ect...IF you dont know you get paid around £30-£50 a play of your single on radio..
    Rough estimations...
    position
    40-30 - £50-80K
    30-20 - £80-120K
    20-10 - £120 - 200K
    10 - 1 - £200 - 250K
    Thats just radio revenue (paid by PRS), not including TV..
    You also get your 70p per download, and statistically once you enter top 40, you sit there for around 3-4 weeks, doing around 10K downloads a week.

    Now with the digital age you can setup pre-orders on some website and SMS keywords..(no need for hard copys!!)

    The Method!
    I can set the release date of one of my singles for November, and have a SMS keyword ready. If i can get 6K people to text that SMS in those 3 months i will move into the Top 40...
    I need some help comming up with a plan for this...Ive thought of many ways such as:
    searching Gumtree Job seekers for emails, sending email that they have a job, if intrested txt the sms code.
    Attaching the single to a product that you can easily sell online 6K times in 3 months..
    ect...

    As I said am looking for more ways on how todo this, please add input, or if anyone thinks they can achieve these kind of numbers, PM me and we can discuss this further (IE i will cut you into the PRS)..

    Ive released records before and not came near Top 40, although make a steady income from PRS, i believe there is a method to get these kind of numbers on a SMS text or download from website..

    BTW the single would be available on ALL major download sites (Itunes/Amazon/HMV ect ect)
     
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  2. jammie

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    You're a genius.

    It'd cost <£5k to buy your own song 6000 times. May be worth checking out.

    Social networks are probz your best bet etc. Bulletins on myspace may get you quite a few if you've got quite a lot of friends on the artists/your account. could always ask other bands to promote them.

    I'd say promote it @ live venues.

    Maybe offer a free exclusive live track/(s) with a pre-order or something?

    Let me know how it goes!
     
  3. Therookie

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    Let me put a vid on Youtube with affil link or whatever
     
  4. teenmoney

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    Yeah I agree. Social networks are probably your best bet. Shoot me a pm when you are ready and I can throw the link up on a couple of my Myspace accounts. Do you have to buy the song or is it a free download?

    This is genius just to let you know :)
     
  5. e2madina

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    eworing with autoresponder.
     
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  6. tatung

    tatung Newbie

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    Am setting up SMS codes this weekend along with distribution to ever major online retailer...

    Ama keep this thread updated...

    Currently building up views on the youtube video of the single and gathering friends on the group page on facebook, using numerous techniques...

    EDIT: As for buying my song myself 6K times...i would need 6K Sim cards with credit....OR a way to buy from itunes ect using different accounts/Ip's..Its all checked!
     
  7. Paper-Boy

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    you would need to hire a hacker for that. well that's how i would proceed anyways.

    however, that isn't much of a success if you were to go that route. it's better to build a fan base since it will benefit you in the long run.
     
  8. SpazzyMcSpazz

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    Now I know why all the music sucks! :) Well, I knew that before but this is just brilliant! Why don't you just post an ad you'll pay people to buy the song. "A quick way to earn a pound or so". I don't know, I haven't given it much thought.

    Can't you just advertise on some CPA network? Now that would be super easy...
     
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  9. tatung

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    CPA network? How would that work, has to be UK remember
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
  10. fabzz

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    Make good music! Thats all.
     
  11. tatung

    tatung Newbie

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    I think you missed the piont!
    Btw the music isn't garbage haha, had all my release have heavy national plays and playlisted across big franchises across UK.
    Just looking at how to get a bigger profit margin!
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  12. three3s

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    What's the name of the artist/single? If you don't want to put it on the forum then PM me and I'll get some traffic to the video on youtube and the facebook group.
     
  13. MandatoryMagic

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    CPA NETWORK

    Here's how you would go about it.

    1. Approach a big company like Neverblue or AzoogleAds.
    2. Specify that only people in the UK can do this offer (easy to do, widely done)
    3. Simply do it in the same fashion as a Mobile Offer, or do some king of thing where they can make money if they download from the website. You have to be creative here and come up with either a mobile or lead offer where the affiliates are happy and you offer them a great payout and the customer has an incentive to do one of the two actions you mentioned (either sending the SMS or Downloading your song).


    Now here's the thing, unlike a normal Mobile offer that's hard to get to convert because people have to send a special text to knowingly subscribe to a $10/month service, yours is way simpler and it seems like you have the money to do it.

    I propose that you give people some kind of incentive, like a free download of the song, or whatever you can offer and in order to receive the gift the user has to send your specific text to some service. Say it's really easy and they won't be subscribed to anything, explain it to them and how their is no risk involved since their just sending one sms. Now that's the from the point of view from the traffic created by the publishers of the network you put this offer on.

    In terms of taking care of the published and giving them a reason to promote you're offer, I'd offer them something like $3.50 a lead. It's great for them because it's easy to promote and the user barely has to do anything. You'd have to figure out how to track it but maybe you could send it through a middle-man type number before it goes to the destination. I'm no pro at sms though...

    Hope that gave you some ideas. If you have the money to spend (seems like you'll quadruple your expense regardless), I would definitely go with a big network and their 1000's of publishers instead of trying to do it yourself.
     
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  14. MandatoryMagic

    MandatoryMagic Registered Member

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    It's really late, hopefully you understand what i wrote, sorry about the spelling errors*
     
  15. butlimous

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    This is really lame....you should build a fan base to help you..music can't be blackhat and you will get caught sooner or late....build something that's worth listening and it will get viral automatically
     
  16. tatung

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    you dont know the music business.... Its controlled by 4 labels...

    Its really rare you ever see indie's make top 40 without one of the 4...
    Sony BMG
    Universal
    Warner
    EMI

    name anyone who has any success, they will be associated with one of the 4...
    Maybe not direct, but under the umbrella of one..Sister labels and ect...
     
  17. sgmoney

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    PMing you. Very intersted in doing a JV but would like to listen to your artists songs first.
     
  18. Dorian Gray

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    Exactly ! So what's the problem ?
     
  19. tatung

    tatung Newbie

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    You must of just skimmed through, you would need 6000 sim cards all wit credit...or some way of buying the song from itunes or w/e with 6000 different IP's and credit cards...
     
  20. Prodige

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    Haha do it like soulja boy (American artist) who uploaded his songs on limewire etc under different artist names :) make it a 30sec clip with it leading to your myspace afterwards :) guy had 2 million downloads before getting the label