6 strikes rule takes effect July 1st?

Othwald · Jun 30, 2012

Hi everyone,

First time positing, so if I screw up I do apologize.

Last year major ISP's (Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, and Cablevision) agreed to a plan by the RIAA and the MPAA to throttle copyright infringers. According to this agreement the first four times your caught you will be punished by throttling and filtering of content. To end the throttling and filtering you would have to pay $35.00 for re-educational information. Once you hit your sixth I guess your banned for life from the Internet.

The EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) says that there are massive problems with the whole concept of relying on the IP address as proof of guilt and placing the burden on the consumer to prove their innocence.

Here are the articles for more information:
At DSLreports: shownews/ISP-Six-Strikes-to-Begin-This-Weekend-120119
Also at DSLreports: shownews/115050
EFF link: deeplinks/2011/07/content-industry-and-isps-announce-common
News CNET: 8301-31001_3-57397452-261/riaa-chief-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/

I'm still a newbie here on BHW, but even I can see the need for more security for all BH's. Anon proxies are going to be a prized resource soon I believe. What do you guys think? What steps are you taking to protect your identities?

str8thustler · Jun 30, 2012

I have never heard of this at all. Where did u get this info?

Narrator · Jun 30, 2012

str8thustler said:
I have never heard of this at all. Where did u get this info?

lol the OP posted three links from where they got the info.

2011nfl · Jun 30, 2012

Interesting information. I will have to read into this more later when I get a chance. I don't think they will be able to make it stick though to be honest. But we will see how it turns out.

Othwald · Jun 30, 2012

I just read it myself. Check out the links I half assed supplied, since I can't post links on this board.

madoctopus · Jun 30, 2012

i think they should cut our double-click finger at 1st strike and execute us by hanging in the public square the 2nd time we infringe copyright. i mean it is our fault they, multi-million USD companies, can't fking find a business model that works today and are still caught in the 80s

CoyoteAssassin · Jun 30, 2012

I received four strikes at my old ISP before I moved. They knew what I downloaded and told me what it was. Then they would say, "You most likely had a virus and you need to do this and it shouldn't happen any more." They played it off but I did take notice.

I sometimes use a VPN such as HMA for all P2P downloads and suggest that others do the same.

Othwald · Jun 30, 2012

I also just read something even more disturbing. After you receive your sixth strike, the RIAA and MPAA have negotiated the right to demand the ISP's to hand over the information to them. This is so they can sue the offenders and make them as examples for the rest of us.
You can read the full report here:
At torrentfreak: /mpaa-riaa-ponder-suing-persistent-bittorrent-pirates-120618/

verilix · Jun 30, 2012

They're going to be punishing millions of Americans then. Fun times!

nerfsmurf · Jun 30, 2012

Hmmmm, interesting, I been torrenting for years and about a week ago, i received a call from some peeps with an over seas accent and they said they were recieving some "red alert signals" from my computer. Im a PC tech and I admit that I have been loose with my PC security but they said they were with my ISP. I was trying to explain to them that I could care less about any signals that they could be receiving, hell just ignore them. Then the dude randomly said he could get my Windows License deactivated for pirating games.... I hung the phone up, recracked my Windows 7, did a full virus scan and kept on being a boss. I did notice that my internet seems to be going faster xD (and i know its not from removing a virus, im talking about 500KB/s to 1MB/s.). IDK, Centurylink sucks ass either way....

WizGizmo · Jun 30, 2012

Thread moved to the Blackhat Lounge.

"Wiz"

madoctopus · Jun 30, 2012

All ISPs are obligated by law to keep logs for at least 6 months of all browsing history, email history, messenger chats, etc. In other words, if you get arrested for drugs and u ever said "i'll sell you 1g of cocaine for $50" on messenger, you're screwed

Same if you did it by email. Unless you encrypt all the communication they know everything.

daisy447 · Jun 30, 2012

madoctopus said:
All ISPs are obligated by law to keep logs for at least 6 months of all browsing history, email history, messenger chats, etc. In other words, if you get arrested for drugs and u ever said "i'll sell you 1g of cocaine for $50" on messenger, you're screwed Same if you did it by email. Unless you encrypt all the communication they know everything.

lol what if someone being a programmer launches a virus for any particular individual and that virus is only to send messages "am selling cocaine"....will he be screwed? if yes? I think I have to learn now how to code virus to kick ass my SEO competitors

ryannull · Jun 30, 2012

meh. 3 words, will resolve this problem.

Virtual Private Networks.

ferma231 · Jun 30, 2012

This is stupid.

1st - Alot of people will suffer. And will need to pay huge bills
2nd - Alot of musicians and so on will suffer to from this shit.
3rd - Of course freedom of internet will be lost, because someone will watch us anyway

Conclusion

THIS IS BULLSHIT !

I dont see any good reason why they need to fight online piracy ? Arent there real criminals left on world ? Or they are to many or whatever , so they better fight with people who download some shit to entertain themselves and dont do anything bad to others

richcamp · Jun 30, 2012

Anyone see the benefit of this for ISP? I know they're probably required by the law to report, but if theres no incentive for them doing it, they'd probably just report few token cases and just let it be

2011nfl · Jun 30, 2012

Here is why I don't think they can make it stick. This is 2012. For one you see copyright infringement EVERYWHERE. It would be like arresting (or sueing) a whole country. Then you have loopholes in laws (which good lawyers will be able to point out better than me) And I think the best defense would be internet hijacking. You have hackers that can make everything appear that it is coming from a certain connection when infact it's not, and then you also have people who have wep crackers, so I really don't think they could make that stick unless the person didn't try to hide anything at all.

agente808 · Jun 30, 2012

Anyone see the benefit of this for ISP? I know they're probably required by the law to report

They AREN'T required by law to report it, and they aren't really required to report it to RIAA and MPAA even if they agreed to the monitoring.

The possible benefit to the ISP would be reduced bandwidth maybe?
or maybe they will start offering fully encrypted VPN services, lol

Roparadise · Jun 30, 2012

There is no "free" internet and never has been, you are agreeing to the terms of the ISP when you order it. Its their lines, and their servers not the public's.

bigkapp · Jul 1, 2012

2011nfl said:
Interesting information. I will have to read into this more later when I get a chance. I don't think they will be able to make it stick though to be honest. But we will see how it turns out.

I agree with 2011nfl , I doubt ISP's will ban users for file sharing . They would loss a lot of money from user's cause everyone's doing it. I don't think banning half of their user's is good for business . I think this whole thing is just hype .

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