5 Sites De-Indexed

talkmeow · Mar 1, 2012

Last weekend I took a big hit, 5 of my main adsense sites were deindexed. I'm stressing out because it looks like they won't be coming back anytime soon. Here are some details and the email I got from froogle. Any advice on how to get them back in the SERPs?

-all 5 sites used CTR theme
-all interlinked because they are same niche
-adsense: one image leaderboard on top, 368x280 text on bottom for all pages
-3-6 articles on each site
-hit 2 of the sites with BMR, all 5 were hit with about 250 ALN posts (this might be what got me deindexed?)

Email:
Dear site owner or webmaster of "my site",
We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum or support.
Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team

I've changed up the themes, removed all the adsense, and removed all the "spammy" links I could. I didn't really hit these sites hard, just normal bookmarks, articles, etc. So I'm thinking it was the ALN or maybe a competitor reported my site?

JFoulds · Mar 1, 2012

If you haven't already done so, remove all of the interlinking between the websites.
Google is viscious when it comes to penalising linked MNS networks.

FuryKyle · Mar 1, 2012

JFoulds said:
If you haven't already done so, remove all of the interlinking between the websites.
Google is viscious when it comes to penalising linked MNS networks.

If you could get sites deindexed with ALN blasts then.. Well you get the point. You probably got manually reviewed and saw the interlinking + thin content. That pretty much equals to a deindex.

TK421 · Mar 1, 2012

Your sites were interlinked. doesn't matter if they are in the same niche.

Same thing happened to me a while back. Clone the sites and use similar domain names and then 301 redirect the old domains to the new ones.

JFoulds · Mar 1, 2012

TK421 said:
Your sites were interlinked. doesn't matter if they are in the same niche.

Same thing happened to me a while back. Clone the sites and use similar domain names and then 301 redirect the old domains to the new ones.

And make sure you don't use the same Adsense account as you did with the unindexed websites!

harry911 · Mar 1, 2012

Did you have all sites under one webmaster account?

talkmeow · Mar 1, 2012

JFoulds said:
If you haven't already done so, remove all of the interlinking between the websites.
Google is viscious when it comes to penalising linked MNS networks.

Wasn't aware of this, first time I've ever interlinked my sites. That is pretty dumb since these sites were very closely related, ex: "red widget", "blue widget", etc and you would think it would be beneficial to the user to have relevant domains on the site. Oh well, froogle is retarded.

FuryKyle said:
If you could get sites deindexed with ALN blasts then.. Well you get the point. You probably got manually reviewed and saw the interlinking + thin content. That pretty much equals to a deindex.

Seems like interlinking is the main problem here

TK421 said:
Your sites were interlinked. doesn't matter if they are in the same niche.

Same thing happened to me a while back. Clone the sites and use similar domain names and then 301 redirect the old domains to the new ones.

Roger, I will try this...so much work lol

JFoulds said:
And make sure you don't use the same Adsense account as you did with the unindexed websites!

You really think they could/would track me down again? I have used the same adsense account for 5 years now with no problems.

harry911 said:
Did you have all sites under one webmaster account?

No, I wasn't using webmaster on any of these sites. I added one of them after they got deindexed and found that message waiting for me

mrdexter · Mar 1, 2012

talkmeow said:
Email:
Dear site owner or webmaster of "my site",
We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum or support.
Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team

I've changed up the themes, removed all the adsense, and removed all the "spammy" links I could. I didn't really hit these sites hard, just normal bookmarks, articles, etc. So I'm thinking it was the ALN or maybe a competitor reported my site?

I'm not at all convinced it was your linking, the recent emails indicating tha have been quite clear. I think this is something onsite.

JFoulds · Mar 1, 2012

mrdexter said:
I'm not at all convinced it was your linking, the recent emails indicating tha have been quite clear. I think this is something onsite.

Those emails have been mainly to people using blog networks or obvious PR manipulate linking, I have not heard of anyone recieving that type of email for inter-site linking like his...

mrdexter · Mar 1, 2012

talkmeow said:
Wasn't aware of this, first time I've ever interlinked my sites. That is pretty dumb since these sites were very closely related, ex: "red widget", "blue widget", etc and you would think it would be beneficial to the user to have relevant domains on the site. Oh well, froogle is retarded.

Any reason you chose that option rather than have widget.com with pages for each of the sub widgets?

talkmeow · Mar 1, 2012

JFoulds said:
Those emails have been mainly to people using blog networks or obvious PR manipulate linking, I have not heard of anyone recieving that type of email for inter-site linking like his...

Yup, and most of the people getting hit for using blog networks are just getting penalties, not completely deindexed.

mrdexter said:
Any reason you chose that option rather than have widget.com with pages for each of the sub widgets?

I actually tried widget.com with subpages first and found it much easier to rank blue-widget.com, red-widget.com, etc separately.

psytrance · Mar 1, 2012

TK421 said:
Your sites were interlinked. doesn't matter if they are in the same niche.

Same thing happened to me a while back. Clone the sites and use similar domain names and then 301 redirect the old domains to the new ones.

i dont think interlinking is a problem even if the domains are hosted in the same account.

and please someone can tell me that CTR theme is not the problem here :S:S:S i have instaled it in some of my MNS..... should i change it?

mrdexter · Mar 1, 2012

talkmeow said:
Yup, and most of the people getting hit for using blog networks are just getting penalties, not completely deindexed.

I actually tried widget.com with subpages first and found it much easier to rank blue-widget.com, red-widget.com, etc separately.

Easier in the short term, but now something you did has you de-indexed. Not much more I can offer you, except to look at one of the sites, but I really think this is something onsite, not off.

fad3r · Mar 1, 2012

There's a user on this site who specializes in figuring out what's wrong with your site. I don't remember his name but he had a huge thread in the white hat forum.

nothingnothing · Mar 1, 2012

fad3r said:
There's a user on this site who specializes in figuring out what's wrong with your site. I don't remember his name but he had a huge thread in the white hat forum.

I think you are talking about Extrawinner.

Here is the thread :

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/407778-guide-google-penalties-recognition-removal-2012-a.html

rockong · Mar 1, 2012

Google's adsense program can really own a lot of people - it's nearly impossible to get your account back too! can't even find their phone number anywhere

brainstorm1 · Mar 1, 2012

I don't understand why people consistently under "content" their sites. Add an extra article or two EVERY week. You've all heard that content is king so stop giving Google any reason to deindex you.

It doesn't take long to write a new article...and it costs about $7 for a 500 word one.

harry911 · Mar 1, 2012

Remove the interlinking between sites, and submit for review.

seorockstar · Mar 1, 2012

This is interesting. Many well known sites interlink with each other. Gawker sites do it. Cnet sites do it. And so do many others. I don't see why you can't.

If you do remove the interlinking and they then readd you to the index please let us know.

no4h~ · Mar 1, 2012

seorockstar said:
This is interesting. Many well known sites interlink with each other. Gawker sites do it. Cnet sites do it. And so do many others. I don't see why you can't. If you do remove the interlinking and they then readd you to the index please let us know.

You can't really compare sites with such high authority (such as Gawkwer and CNet) to some random spun blogs.

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