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301 Redirects - Are They really Penalised By G?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aj113, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. aj113

    aj113 Senior Member

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    It occurred to me that if G really penalises 301 redirects when used as a BH SERP manipulation technique, wouldn't it be possible to set up a bunch of spammy 301s to your competitors' sites as negative SEO? I mean, your competitor wouldn't even know why his site had been penalised. I'm not suggesting that anybody does this of course, I'm just querying whether 301 redirect penalties really exist.
     
  2. silverjubilee

    silverjubilee Newbie

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    They are, but it is also possible to get away it. Why would anyone want to pay for a domain and point it to a competitors site just to bring them down. Its a least preferred negative seo method which could in the beginning actually give your competition a boost.
     
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    They are not penalizing 301s. Companies have dozens and hundreds of 301s pointing to their homepage. That's called "we acquired Company X, and now they are part of Company Y"
     
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  4. aj113

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    Not sure why you're even asking this but:
    Cost of domain: $10.
    Cost of 301 redirect: $0.
    Number of $ in your bank as a result of your competitor disappearing off the radar: $kkkkk
     
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  5. aj113

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    ...which is what I thought. So why aren't we all using 301's to BH our way to the top of the SERPS?
     
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    You're the only one who's not doing that. :D
     
  7. aj113

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    You don't actually know that. :D
     
  8. Aleksandrius

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    Oh yes he does!
    Actually we are laughing at you big time :)
     
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    301 can give you a boost but sometimes nothing happens. is like tossing a coin
     
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  10. aj113

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    YEs and in those cases the temptation is to throw more 301s at it. So does this eventually result in a penalty at some point?
     
  11. aj113

    aj113 Senior Member

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    Doesn't take much to make you laugh does it? Maybe it's your noobness. Just so that you know - we help each other here at BHW, attempting to ridicule people doesn't help anyone.
     
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  12. RuthSam

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    So far never seen any negative using 301 on my domains.. they are ranking well the main sites.
     
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    301s can't really be penalized as a whole, since hundreds of thousands of legit site 301 their old site to new ones when they move.
     
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    Why do you think this is untraceable? One just has to trace the referrer unless it's a ref blanked redirect which is usually done by JS and has no effect on SERP as per my knowledge..

    I am by no mean a guru in SEO but I as per my knowledge, you can negate these penalties using the disavow tool may be ( not sure if it works with redirects ).

    Interested in this topic as well. Subbed.
     
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  15. stharthjw6j

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    WHO ON HERE HAS BEEN SENDING COLD EMAILS ABOUT THIS THREAD??? Somebody has been sending spam about this which means that somebody could have hacked BHW's user email database. Maybe someone can find out who it is. Here is the email I got:

    Fuck off with your fucking spam you fucking spammer, I never opted in to your spammy crap and never gave you permission to send me your spammy crap. You don't even give an option to unsubscribe from your spammy crap because you're using a Gmail account. Why? Because you're a fucking cunt spammer who deserves to die and be force fed your own shit while you die.

    Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:57:24 +0530
    Subject: Do 301 Redirects Work? Read what BHW guys are Saying!‏‏
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]

    Do 301 Redirects Work?
    301's can Rank you like Crazy on Google! And Guess what? Google Can't Patch This Method! Why?
    Simply b'coz there's millions of sites using 301 redirects for legit reasons. Google can never Penalize 301s!

    Here Is The Proof!

    Google "Garcinia Cambogia Reviews" and you'll find a site called "http://authoritynutrition.com/" on Page 1 Of Google!
    Now Just go to http://ahrefs.com/ - Put http://authoritynutrition.com/ & Just hit enter. Next check its backlinks. You will see that this site has 96 x 301s!

    That is How Big ballers are Ranking & Banking!

    Don't miss out on This, 301s are working great & Its time to try It Yourself!

    https://bitly.com/1ufht33

    Or,

    https://bitly.com/1ufht33

     
  16. bokeboke

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    Sorry if someone already answered this but if you 301 a penalized domain (algo or manual) to your moneysite the penalty doesn't follow through?
     
  17. Gogol

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    Ahh fucking spammer now I received the same email!!
    How do they get my email address?
    ...................................................................................................................



    Do 301 Redirects Work?
    301's can Rank you like Crazy on Google! And Guess what? Google Can't Patch This Method! Why?
    Simply b'coz there's millions of sites using 301 redirects for legit reasons. Google can never Penalize 301s!

    Here Is The Proof!


    Google "Garcinia Cambogia Reviews" and you'll find a site called "authoritynutrition.com" on Page 1 Of Google!
    Now Just go to http://ahrefs.com - Put authoritynutrition.com & Just hit enter. Next check its backlinks. You will see that this site has 96 x 301s!

    That is How Big ballers are Ranking & Banking!

    Don't miss out on This, 301s are working great & Its time to try It Yourself!

    Click Here To Start Ranking with 301s

    Or,

    Read What People are saying about 301s on BHW
     
  18. aj113

    aj113 Senior Member

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    OK, so why do so many people 301 to tier 1 and tier 2? If your site can't be penalised, why do you need that protection?
     
  19. aj113

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    Yes, sorry - I just meant that it's not so obvious when you have 301s redirected to your site. Clearly, well-informed site owners would have the ability to check up on site metrics and spot 301s, but the not-so-informed site owner may not be aware of them and what they do.
     
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  20. slimspots

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    forwardings can not be banned for 301 one, as is the reason rather somewhere else, check your website on cloacking or malware ..