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301 Redirection for Expired Domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by radichone, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. radichone

    radichone Registered Member

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    Hello guys
    I want to make a 301 redirection for an expired domain to my money site, if you had to choose between these 2 options which one would you prefer:
    1-Expired domain with very good metrics but not related to my niche
    2-Expired domain related to my niche but the metrics not that high

    Thank you for your help
     
  2. Windmm

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    The second one is better.
     
  3. boleklolek

    boleklolek Senior Member

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    why make redirect in the first place? I strongly believe making a site and linking from article to your site is a lot safer and more powerful
     
  4. JasonXDC

    JasonXDC Regular Member

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    This isn't 2010. Redirecting a totally irrelevant domain to your money site is just asking for trouble.

    Why do people not Google such things before asking or buying up domains to prevent wasting time and effort?

    If you are creating articles on the domain to link to your site, that's still acceptable.

    But if say your money site is a florist service, and you are redirecting a domain about tech and computers to your money site, do you honestly think that search engines don't know the vast difference? And that's not mentioning the obscure and irrelevant anchor texts that carry over to your money site.

    I know this is a forum, but come on- please read up on things first before you attempt something like a 301 redirect.
     
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  5. Trinity Smith

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    I go for the option number 2. When buying an expired domain RELEVANCE is the most important thing to look out for.
     
  6. gtull2

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    So you have thoroughly tested this and are hear to reveal your results?

    Or are you just rehashing what you have read?

    Honestly curious.
     
  7. JasonXDC

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    I don't need to test a 301 redirect when I'm not in the business of making churn & burn sites. My business that i do SEO for is a legit presence with 16 years of operations and a brick & mortar location- a 301 redirect of an irrelevant domain isn't something I'd personally use for that.

    Where ranking tactics for properties or clients are concerned, how much proof does one need to see before being able to utilize common sense?

    301redirects have been tested over and over (I personally like the one by 'GotchSEO') , with both results and a sensible breakdown included in their findings.

    It has been long established that unless one acquires a relevant domain and does the necessary to announce it as part of a merger/takeover prior to redirecting the domain to a money site, it won't work well long term. You may see some rank increase, but its highly doubtful that the rank increase will stand the test of time as Google rolls out new algorithmic changes every now and then.

    I wouldn't say I'm rehashing what i read, but its akin to someone giving solid advice like : 'don't cross the street without looking both ways first'.

    A)Transferal of anchor text thru redirects is proven to be real.

    B) Overoptimization and irrelevant anchor text are also proven to be correlated with penalties and rank losses.

    With just the above in mind, what further proof must I read about 301 redirects to exercise my common sense?

    The fact that the trustflow metric exists should also give us pause for consideration :

    Getting a link from a relevant or authoritative site is proclaimed to be very beneficial. People use Majestic's tool to determine the topical trust flow and relevancy of a domain and it's backlinks. If a third party tool can see this, a search engine surely could too.

    And please don't say that trust flow metrics don't matter when a vast majority of people who buy or sell links use it to justify what they paid or want you to pay for it.

    So tell me, am I rehashing what i read or am I basing my link building decisions based on my common sense when dissecting case studies and tutorials/guides?

    *Edit: spelling
     
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  8. gtull2

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    No offense, but you're rehashing.

    I'm not here to start an SEO war with you. I'm a peon.

    It just bugs me when I hear generalizations and assumptions.

    It would be really neat to hear from someone that has actually tested 301's recently.

    It would be really, really neat to hear from someone that has actually tested "relevancy" with 301's.

    /end of war. Back to my cave I go.
     
  9. JasonXDC

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    Call it whatever you want. I never ever said I didn't test out redirects on properties. I have done that based on what i have read as guides.

    If something bugs you that's not anyone's problem. It's just your own inability to justify the cost of doing something yourself to see the results.

    And F.Y.I there never was a war to begin with, ain't no one got time for that.
     
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    I'll choose the second option but make sure that it has a clean archive history and backlink profile.
     
  11. ttmschine

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    First option obviously - it's the metrics that matter not the niche.

    If you are worried about it buy 2 domains - point high metrics domain at high relevance domain, and then high relevance domain at money site.

    There are other ways as well.
     
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    Know someone that did this. And the original domain is a foreign domain. He's ranking #1 for "city name SEO". So it's working for him. For how long? Who knows, but it's been over a year now.
     
  13. ttmschine

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    Make hay while the sun shines - that's all that matters baby...
     
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    niche related back links are more powerful always bro .
    i suggest to second one
     
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    Power and relevancy are a great combo, but if it's an "or" power always wins.
     
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