301 redirect

dogilim · May 26, 2020

Hello, I have a question about 301 redirect, we did the 301 redirect on the same day with my competitor, today is the 4th day and he quickly got its old rankings back, but it seems that it will take me much longer to get my old rankings, for better understanding there are pictures of ahrefs;

my site: https://i.imgur.com/F2QHT17.png
my competitor: https://i.imgur.com/QpOEbaR.png

Obviously he is doing something that speeds up the 301, but i couldn't find what that is. I tried to send organic hit to my site, i send it on google webmaster tools, sitemap is fine, if you have a suggestion, it would be awesome thanks.

Sweely · May 26, 2020

Only suggestion I have is not to worry about it. If you've done the 301 correctly, it's going to get picked up soon.

t2van · May 26, 2020

Assuming google takes notice much quicker of your competitor than yours as they have the larger site... could be wrong.

dogilim · May 26, 2020

t2van said:
Assuming google takes notice much quicker of your competitor than yours as they have the larger site... could be wrong.

i had more visits than him and i believe we have almost the same authority.

t2van · May 26, 2020

dogilim said:
i had more visits than him and i believe we have almost the same authority.

Are the images the right way around then? As his site looking at the image is a bigger site than yours?

AAW · May 26, 2020

Interesting, I have done 301 for a very old site and it took a while to get the juice from the old site BUT as soon as I did more backlinks and stuff for the NEW one I got better ranking for the new one compared how was the older one, I'm not SEO expert but you may need to check with the experts here on working on the new site backlinks and not to expect everything will pass from old to new, you do need to work on the new one too as far as I know. Could it that your competitor is improving the new site somehow?

crismanaon · May 26, 2020

I am confused here? My question is "how can we know when our competitors do the redirect I mean date time etc."

dogilim · May 26, 2020

t2van said:
Are the images the right way around then? As his site looking at the image is a bigger site than yours?

The reason why i post that ahrefs image is that his new domain gets picked up really fast and my site is really slow.

dogilim · May 26, 2020

AAW said:
Interesting, I have done 301 for a very old site and it took a while to get the juice from the old site BUT as soon as I did more backlinks and stuff for the NEW one I got better ranking for the new one compared how was the older one, I'm not SEO expert but you may need to check with the experts here on working on the new site backlinks and not to expect everything will pass from old to new, you do need to work on the new one too as far as I know. Could it that your competitor is improving the new site somehow?

I don't think that he built new backlinks to his new domain, even if he did, it would still take weeks to see any improvement.

dogilim · May 26, 2020

crismanaon said:
I am confused here? My question is "how can we know when our competitors do the redirect I mean date time etc."

if you check them everyday you'll know it.

crismanaon · May 26, 2020

dogilim said:
if you check them everyday you'll know it.

That show how much patient do you have I am sure you will perform better than any one else.

Thank you very much for this reply I never think before anyone can work like that

Loklush · May 26, 2020

From whichy level you done 301 redirect
Domain level ?
Hosting level ?
Cloudflare level ?

dogilim · May 26, 2020

Loklush said:
From whichy level you done 301 redirect
Domain level ?
Hosting level ?
Cloudflare level ?

Htaccess

tiiberius · May 26, 2020

Seems to be technical issue.

301 is quite vague.

How specifically did you do this? Whole site to the new root or page by page?
How is server of the new site doing? Is it the same/weaker/stronger?

Do an audit.

confirm that all new pages are crawlable by bots.
check speed and load time
check interlinks. If you are using absolute paths you are linking to the old pages and loosing juice. 301 doesn't pass all of it.
etc

izodos · May 26, 2020

is there any guide for domain 301 redirect for hosting level or cloudflare ?
Is this .htaccess correct for domain level ?

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain.com [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.domain.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://www.newdomain.com [L,R=301,NC]

thanks

dogilim · May 26, 2020

tiiberius said:
Seems to be technical issue.

301 is quite vague.

How specifically did you do this? Whole site to the new root or page by page?

How is server of the new site doing? Is it the same/weaker/stronger?

Do an audit.

confirm that all new pages are crawlable by bots.

check speed and load time

check interlinks. If you are using absolute paths you are linking to the old pages and loosing juice. 301 doesn't pass all of it.

etc

everything done correctly, whole site redirected to new domain, same hosting, pages are crawlable. speed and load time is also ok. interlinks are same

Indiangrubby · May 26, 2020

Loklush said:
From whichy level you done 301 redirect
Domain level ?
Hosting level ?
Cloudflare level ?

Would love to get more educated on this....

Someone care to shed a light on this ?
How to do all 3 of them....& which one works perfectly.

I have done 10 similar niche domains redirect from godaddy account to my 8 month old website.

Nothing has been happening as of now.

Those 8 domains have been checked completely for topical relevance, 15+ DA, clean anchors still..
5 domains were redirected to homepage & 3 others to 3 other money pages.

Definitely Ive done something which is not yielding correct results ?

tiiberius · May 27, 2020

dogilim said:
everything done correctly, whole site redirected to new domain, same hosting, pages are crawlable. speed and load time is also ok. interlinks are same

Then it might be just a matter of time.

However, usually audit uncovers things we think are 100% "OK".

dogilim · May 27, 2020

tiiberius said:
Then it might be just a matter of time.

However, usually audit uncovers things we think are 100% "OK".

Though, i done audit multiple times, im going to do it again, so here's my question to you, how do you make sure your site gets crawled by google? is there any tool for that?

tiiberius · May 28, 2020

dogilim said:
Though, i done audit multiple times, im going to do it again, so here's my question to you, how do you make sure your site gets crawled by google? is there any tool for that?

Yes, since you are using WMT you can use Fetch as bot feature. I think it's called URL inspection now.

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