Facial recognition and Digital IDs for social media? UK clarifies new rules

UK Government clarifies adults will still be able to use social media by verifying their identities with digital IDs, facial recognition, passports and credit cards.

It might soon spread like plague - threatening anonymity on social media. What do you think?

Starblazer said:

What do you think?

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I think it's a horrible idea. There's no significant benefit to this in my opinion. Every problem they claimed this would solve can be solved using alternative means. But as we know, people in power always want more power and control.

This will equally affect IM and SM much more than people realize.

Time for my underground bunker lol

why would you want people providing their real info just to use the internet, identity theft is already a big enough issue, now scammers will immediately know they can access all your details in a single node

Maxwell6780 said:

why would you want people providing their real info just to use the internet, identity theft is already a big enough issue, now scammers will immediately know they can access all your details in a single node

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I wouldn't be surprised if a hacker steals the entire database and sells it on darkweb. Even that's not a problem. I frequently find people arguing & fighting with each other on platforms like X. Things might get personal if the anonymity no longer exists and people find a way to locate you. The websites will also find it easy to track your activity regardless of all the precautions.

why do you want people providing their real info just to use the internet, identity theft is already a big enough issue, now scammers will immediately know they can access all your details in a single node

I think this will be create a major privacy issue and identity theft, not a wise decision

The weakness of biometrics

It will be interesting to see how this develops. Identity verification may reduce fake accounts but it also raises valid concerns about privacy and anonymous participation online.
If more countries adopt similar rules then platforms will have to find a balance between user safety and protecting personal privacy.

Maxwell6780 said:

why would you want people providing their real info just to use the internet, identity theft is already a big enough issue, now scammers will immediately know they can access all your details in a single node

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Because we are only at the start, they are bringing this in slowly. it won't be possible for any bad actors to steal biometric information because cryptography will be involved. Why do you think they want everyone to have computers with TPM?

its because eventually biometrics will run on a key/pair system, you hold one half of the key and a trusted body holds the matching pair, you store your half in TPM and the body stores theirs, the matching key/pair is how they know its you because it matches your biometrics not someone else's but also means someone else cannot steal your idenity. It means bad actors will not be able to impersonate you. But it also means as soon as your computer turns on and connects to the internet they will be able to track you like i am talking as soon as the computer powers on and connects online.

We are still a ways off from this but this is where we are heading, they want to know every single computer on the outside lan of things called the internet. Like every single person behind ever single computer.

The ramifications of this?

Mass surveillance, but also means watch how your treat your computers and who you let use them, the things you do online and be careful how you act online because you are not just someone online anymore you are acting as yourself.

I don't know any government truly concerned about internet addiction, in fact, they really love this world of zombies scrolling all day instead of trying to do something against the system, so obviously they just want to keep the zombie lifestyle and collect our private information, docs and all this surveillance garbage

What to do about this? I think eventually it will become so ingrained there will be no escaping it, but for now limit biometrics. The camera on your laptop if you have that cover it etc. Digital ID don't sign up for it etc.

While you can which is now don't adopt these things until you actually have to. Always try to falsify your real word credentials online where you can. Like example social media, emails, forums etc never used to need these things and you could fake them. Soon these days are numbered as we are seeing with social media. Hold onto old accounts you have because as it stands now you can still use them.

Slow your adoption of these things because soon you won't have a choice.

Just remember that a 16bit Alpha numeric password that is stored on a server can take millions of years to brute force. Rainbow tables come into play and means it can be reduced to minutes but if the password is salted and stored correctly on a server then its basically non hackable. Banking for example would employ a front facing server for say the website but the actual user credentials of all their users would be on a separate server, where to access that server you would be using TPM and attestation it means only the banks own server can get in there. it would mean it makes it really hard for hackers to even get that far, this combined with a fail safe of 2fA on the users end means the system is basically vaulted.

When you know the game you know. The reason being is that they are going to push to the masses like we need to be doing all this biometrics BS. Really its just that they want mass surveillance.

Reds100 said:

Just remember that a 16bit Alpha numeric password that is stored on a server can take millions of years to brute force. Rainbow tables come into play and means it can be reduced to minutes but if the password is salted and stored correctly on a server then its basically non hackable. Banking for example would employ a front facing server for say the website but the actual user credentials of all their users would be on a separate server, where to access that server you would be using TPM and attestation it means only the banks own server can get in there. it would mean it makes it really hard for hackers to even get that far, this combined with a fail safe of 2fA on the users end means the system is basically vaulted.

When you know the game you know. The reason being is that they are going to push to the masses like we need to be doing all this biometrics BS. Really its just that they want mass surveillance.

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the metadata collection is the dangerous part,which computer he is on,which bank he went to

moonshine7000 said:

the metadata collection is the dangerous part,which computer he is on,which bank he went to

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Yes, so the metadata aspect is the tracking one. Like chronologically tracking your movements, triangulation all sorts. The biometrics part is your physical characteristics that authenticate who you are. Combining both these together is the scary part, there will be no bad actors except the "state". if they ever wanted to deem you are terrorist threat or a person of suspicion or what ever then they have all ability under these sorts of conditions to track you heavily.

Like think of how we use our ID'd now, from drivers license to passport to bank card what ever well digital ID will be in the future the one ID that covers everything. So it means any place you use these current forms of ID, Digital ID will replace in the real world that is, but as we can see Digital ID is being pushed online, biometrics all that. Again CSAM is the major vehicle atm so its about "keeping the kids safe online" atm,

Thing is anyone good with computers knows how to keep their kids safe online. The flipside to that is that there is no shortage of lousy parents that use devices as babysiters so they don't have to deal with the kids. its not my fault or yours if the parents lack any technology skill. Govts world wide could incentives setting up firewalls and teach people how to keep their kids safe online but that is not what they are doing, they are forcing something onto the masses that actually has a darker endgoal.

The average people out there online and just in general have no idea what is happening. That is the majority of people. Thing is there will be plenty of people thinking keeping kids safe online is a good thing because it is.

Here is how it looks in Australia

I think it's right that children under 16 use social media and that broader protections are needed to give them back their childhood.

moonshine7000 said:

Time for my underground bunker lol

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And my land with hydroponics lol. xD