Secret BHW MODS

[Sherb]

Do your due diligence before purchasing, and leave a review when you are done, and there won't be a need for fucking bullshit like this, @back2form. I understand that you are just trying to "make the BST a better place". Maybe the solution is far simpler than reinventing the wheel. Just leave a damn review.

 

[Inception_AC]

Do your due diligence before purchasing, and leave a review when you are done, and there won't be a need for fucking bullshit like this, @back2form. I understand that you are just trying to "make the BST a better place". Maybe the solution is far simpler than reinventing the wheel. Just leave a damn review.

Someone has a case of the Monday's

 

[back2form]

#1 First Things, which I Learned during my holiday break is - > BlackHatWorld - Terms of Service & Rules

How many of them read the rules completely when signing up to this forum ? Honest Answer please..

Maximum 90% of members scrolls down & click "I agree button without reading the rules.
Only 10% of the members read the rules completely or half read & click "I agree button"

I believe, within that 10% members are Admins, Moderators, Super Moderators, Jr. Executive VIP & many others are the members who read & Follows the rule completely..
So, they can engaged in this forum & Reporting the posts who break the rules and perform better than any..

How many admin staff members in BHW ? May be less than 50 i guess
If there is 100 staff application per month, then there will be 500 in 5 months, 1200 in 1 year.. You see Most of them are volunteers - Why not hire them as a secret MOD & ask them to read the rules completely & report the posts who break rules, etc etc.. ?

So, maybe they work volunteer for this forum.
There is a Big difference between 50 volunteers, 500 volunteers & 1000 volunteers working for the Forum!

Not MOD status is necessary for secret MOD..
Not MOD hat is needed for secret MOD..
Not MOD power is needed for secret MOD..

Just a secret deal between admin & secret MOD for maintaining the forum clean, engaged & taking this BHW forum to the Next Level!

 

[Inception_AC]

#1 First Things, which I Learned during my holiday break is - > BlackHatWorld - Terms of Service & Rules

How many of them read the rules completely when signing up to this forum ? Honest Answer please..

Maximum 90% of members scrolls down & click "I agree button without reading the rules.
Only 10% of the members read the rules completely or half read & click "I agree button"

I believe, within that 10% members are Admins, Moderators, Super Moderators, Jr. Executive VIP & many others are the members who read & Follows the rule completely..
So, they can engaged in this forum & Reporting the posts who break the rules and perform better than any..

How many admin staff members in BHW ? May be less than 50 i guess
If there is 100 staff application per month, then there will be 500 in 5 months, 1200 in 1 year.. You see Most of them are volunteers - Why not hire them as a secret MOD & ask them to read the rules completely & report the posts who break rules, etc etc.. ?

So, maybe they work volunteer for this forum.
There is a Big difference between 50 volunteers, 500 volunteers & 1000 volunteers working for the Forum!

Not MOD status is necessary for secret MOD..
Not MOD hat is needed for secret MOD..
Not MOD power is needed for secret MOD..

Just a secret deal between admin & secret MOD for maintaining the forum clean, engaged & taking this BHW forum to the Next Level!

as much as i respect what you are trying to do, why don't you just come out and ask? haha

 

[Deleted member 720373]

Why not hire them as a secret MOD & ask them to read the rules completely & report the posts who break rules, etc etc.. ?

But most of us do this already so why would they need any secret deals. I report anything from 1 to 20+ posts a day sometimes due to some rule breaking. If you are referring to the sales threads still then we would still have the issue surrounding funding. Who would pay for these secret reviews?

 

[back2form]

as much as i respect what you are trying to do, why don't you just come out and ask? haha

I asked it & that's why came out to show it haha

 

[Inception_AC]

I asked it & that's why came out to show it haha

well you can hardly be a secret mod like me if you are making threads like this.....

 

[Sherb]

Why not hire them as a secret MOD & ask them to read the rules completely & report the posts who break rules, etc etc.. ?

An incentive should not be needed to keep a community you learn from and contribute to a cleaner place. Just report posts and follow the rules without expecting extra privileges as a result.

 

[back2form]

But most of us do this already so why would they need any secret deals. I report anything from 1 to 20+ posts a day sometimes due to some rule breaking. If you are referring to the sales threads still then we would still have the issue surrounding funding. Who would pay for these secret reviews?

Yes, I know! Most of us doing it already - To give them a Boost "think about my idea" - that's it!
I speak what strikes me..
I posted it in forum suggestion / Feedback section - So listen - Just suggestion - okay - I repeat - Just asking for others to suggest
Not i prepared the rules completely yet!

Greater Ideas developed from the Simple Ideas. I have given a simple Idea.. Making it greater is with the hands of BHW admins.

 

[MisterF]

One thing that pisses me off is the new sales threads where the first ten posts are people asking for reviews.



https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/the-black-hat-world-marketplace-rules.1295700/

Don't request trials / review copies.
The op will post the number of review / trial copies they are willing to give away, if any, and will provide the criteria they require to get a review / trial copy (often these are only for Jr. VIP accounts).


These people should all be reported and maybe if they get warned then infractions they might stop clogging up the marketplace.

 

[blogzandstuff]

So we can gather from your thread that your application was turned down

 

[bartosimpsonio]

This is how hotel chains work. They hire lots of fake guests to spy on how the hotel is working internally. Hotel managers rarely catch their employees on their worst behavior.

 

[Inception_AC]

One thing that pisses me off is the new sales threads where the first ten posts are people asking for reviews.



https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/the-black-hat-world-marketplace-rules.1295700/

Don't request trials / review copies.
The op will post the number of review / trial copies they are willing to give away, if any, and will provide the criteria they require to get a review / trial copy (often these are only for Jr. VIP accounts).


These people should all be reported and maybe if they get warned then infractions they might stop clogging up the marketplace.

Someone tried this with me a few weeks back with an ebook for jr vip members (which i still habent got round to reading) he started a conversation with everyone who hadnt replied with a postive review and begged us to leave one, I replied in the conversation and that was that

 

[back2form]

Your point may sounds good, But doesn't sounds in real times..

There is Big Difference - working for incentive || Working for money || working for person..

I didn't meant incentives for volunteers.
I meant Giving volunteers a Boost is #Appreciation that's greater than a #incentive

some Sample appreciations / incentives to volunteers as follows :

PM from admin members,
Receiving Thanks from MOD / superior members,
Participation of MODS to our own threads..
etc etc & etc,,
You see, then the volunteers can perform even high & fly high... #true Fact!

An incentive should not be needed to keep a community you learn from and contribute to a cleaner place. Just report posts and follow the rules without expecting extra privileges as a result.

So we can gather from your thread that your application was turned down

 

[Faith]

I recently bought a authority site setup. The keywords were very competitive. Some of them were "baby diapers" and seller was insisting that they were easy keywords. Well after 30 days of waiting, i asked for a refund. Didnt post anything in his BST because it was too shitty and feel bad about posting a bad review.

 

[Nargil]

This problem would obviously got away if people posted their real experience with the service.

There are a few problems with this though:

- People afraid to step up against "bigger" and older members who provide the service.
- People not being able to see crap if it landed in their soup.
- People afraid of posting negative reviews due to possible "revenge" attack. I believe there was a case with one fairly old member who was threatening with the neg SEO attack.
- People feeling bad about, pretty much, ruining someone's business.
- 24/7 spam of "pls bro edit" PMs.

When you put all these together, no surprise nobody bothers with negative reviews. Maybe 1 in 50 people who are not satisfied with the service leave one. I am absolutely not surprised that they do not. Why would anyone sacrifice his/her time/site/nerves for the good of community? Unless someone has a strong "higher good" feeling, then sure, but otherwise, why?

I heard stories about some people who stepped up against a service of one, now banned, mod, and it of course ended up deleted alongside with some light threats. We are all equal, but some of us are a bit more equal than the others.

Even people who get free review copies very very rarely leave any negative feedback, because they feel obliged to be positive. Or at the very least, neutral.

 

[back2form]

There are a few problems with this though: b2f answers in red

- People afraid to step up against "bigger" and older members who provide the service.
I believe, This isn't Case with Secret MODs.
- People not being able to see crap if it landed in their soup.
A Secret MOD can even find small dust landed in their soup.
- People afraid of posting negative reviews due to possible "revenge" attack. I believe there was a case with one fairly old member who was threatening with the neg SEO attack.
The main Work of secret MOD is finding mistakes in BST, leaving original review - whether seller providing service as described
- People feeling bad about, pretty much, ruining someone's business.
that's true, but Work of Secret MOD is keeping the forum clean, So they will be cut and right
- 24/7 spam of "pls bro edit" PMs.
no bro, It's duty of Secret MOD!

When you put all these together, no surprise nobody bothers with negative reviews. Maybe 1 in 50 people who are not satisfied with the service leave one. I am absolutely not surprised that they do not. Why would anyone sacrifice his/her time/site/nerves for the good of community? Unless someone has a strong "higher good" feeling, then sure, but otherwise, why?

I heard stories about some people who stepped up against a service of one, now banned, mod, and it of course ended up deleted alongside with some light threats. We are all equal, but some of us are a bit more equal than the others.

Even people who get free review copies very very rarely leave any negative feedback, because they feel obliged to be positive. Or at the very least, neutral.

I Agree this completely!

 

[Scraper9]

All of the reasons why people doesn't step up and leave real reviews has been explained in previous posts.

The thing is that the system is fucked up, and many people know it. For example, I had a situation that I bought some PBN posts some of which was with 3/4 referring domains (you bet this was not what is promised on the BST). Mod and the guys with the free review copies gave nice, positives reviews as well. Typically sellers provide their best service to the mods and certain members, and after that, a lot of them just turn on the scam mode. How would you define the following: someone promise to deliver 1kg of apples and they deliver 250gr instead, but you paid for that 1kg. I define it as a straight scam.

Some people say: we are a community... so and so, we should protect each other etc., let's get real here and cut the fairy tales. Why the heck most of the members would want to engage in conflict that can bring them more negatives than positives? To sacrifice for the community?

Why people can't just report this scummers privately, and from there the mods start investigating. Because most of the issues are very simple: you did not delivered what was promised, you are getting penalized. Without the buyer to be publicly know. Simple.

If the people who run BHW want to improve the marketplace they can do that in many ways. It's their business after all..
Oh yeah and due diligence it is not always enough. So...

 

[Unreliable Witness]

I'm another believer that we should leave reviews. I also think it is hard to leave negative reviews for reasons outlined above.

At the end of the day, buying from BHW has big risks attached. You're buying from people whose real names you don't know, and who could live anywhere in the world. The shitlist is some recourse, but not a great one unless the member has a particularly good reputation at stake. And it is hardly worth Mods' time adjudicating over a couple of dollars scam (as I've seen recently).

If you buy from the marketplace, I think you need to be able to take the risk what you buy might be useless. You can reduce that risk by asking for samples, reading reviews of people you trust, and PM'ing members directly.

Caveat emptor.

If you can't afford to lose the money, don't buy.

Having secret Mods to evaluate every service continually is simply unrealistic.

 

[back2form]

Having secret Mods to evaluate every service continually is simply unrealistic.

If sellers got to know - There were around 100+ Secret BHW MODS who roaming in Market place then, How that Feels ?
Everything should goes Perfect! even if it was lie
if am right!