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At first, very very good job @hasa1015. This is one of the most helpful posts for some time here.

So you mean if you get a piece of shit and get a refund for it it's not longer a piece of shit? And if you order a fucking 50$ article, you shouldn't need a revision to fix basic mistakes. It's his full right to write a review when he receives his orders wtf.

I hope that just because of those bitchy assumptions you make about @hasa1015 s intention no one will ever buy a piece of shit from you. And I'm pretty sure no one does after the reviews in your thread and here. Your reaction to this alone shows you're not done for this.

So you mean if you get a piece of shit and get a refund for it it's not longer a piece of shit?
- If you order shit - you get shit, no matter of refunds.

And if you order a fucking 50$ article, you shouldn't need a revision to fix basic mistakes.
- you definitely need a fucking revision even for the best fucking article, but he refused a revision

It's his full right to write a review when he receives his orders wtf.
- did I say opposite, wtf?

I hope that just because of those bitchy assumptions you make about @hasa1015 s intention no one will ever buy a piece of shit from you. And I'm pretty sure no one does after the reviews in your thread and here. Your reaction to this alone shows you're not done for this.

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My comment is not a 'bitchy assumptions' like you're making right now, but a polite answer.
I got lots of new request and PM's, so I am actually glad that he made this post...as his promotion of himself worked good for me. I see that you already spent your budget on Jr.Vip, so I doubt you'll have money to place an order.
 
I actually can't believe you are for real right now.

I'm in a skype group with Nick and Harry, Nick did his article for a joke and Harry has shared his plans about this since mid-feb.

You have totally seen this post in the incorrect way. It really is just for reviews, if Harry was trying to boost his content writing sales there are much easier, cheaper and quicker ways to do it than run this thread.

I don't know why you would shoot down a member who just published a great thread at their own expense for us all to benefit from. All you're doing is putting people off from doing the same in the future which will lead to a poorer community where less content is shared.

This is one of the best threads I've seen this year.

Don't you know? Everyone, everywhere has a hidden agenda when they post threads to this forum. No one ever posts anything just to be helpful.
 
If you want content, then write it yourself. The article writers only save you time. When I write an article for myself I spend several hours writing the article. Then I spin the original several times for secondary sites. It can easily cost me several hundred in time to write an article.
 
So you mean if you get a piece of shit and get a refund for it it's not longer a piece of shit? And if you order a fucking 50$ article, you shouldn't need a revision to fix basic mistakes. It's his full right to write a review when he receives his orders wtf.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

It wasn't all at his expense, he invested in content for his site...is that content not on his site right now? It is, right?

I can think of cheaper ways to obtain content than paying for the highest prices on BHW.
 
And if you order a fucking 50$ article, you shouldn't need a revision to fix basic mistakes.
- you definitely need a fucking revision even for the best fucking article, but he refused a revision

Are you for real? Yes revisions may be necessary but not to correct basic spelling and grammar when you are providing a premium service.

Do your writers even know how to use a spell checker?????
 
So you mean if you get a piece of shit and get a refund for it it's not longer a piece of shit?
- If you order shit - you get shit, no matter of refunds.

And if you order a fucking 50$ article, you shouldn't need a revision to fix basic mistakes.
- you definitely need a fucking revision even for the best fucking article, but he refused a revision

It's his full right to write a review when he receives his orders wtf.
- did I say opposite, wtf?

I hope that just because of those bitchy assumptions you make about @hasa1015 s intention no one will ever buy a piece of shit from you. And I'm pretty sure no one does after the reviews in your thread and here. Your reaction to this alone shows you're not done for this.

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My comment is not a 'bitchy assumptions' like you're making right now, but a polite answer.
I got lots of new request and PM's, so I am actually glad that he made this post...as his promotion of himself worked good for me. I see that you already spent your budget on Jr.Vip, so I doubt you'll have money to place an order.
- If you order shit - you get shit, no matter of refunds.
So if I order content from you I order shit? Good to know! But seriously, for this money you do not order shit, you expect at least a bit of quality.

- you definitely need a fucking revision even for the best fucking article, but he refused a revision
I talked about basic mistakes. You for sure don't need a revision for that.
Let me quote @hasa1015 at this point:
[...]I got an article that had not one, but nine grammatical errors! From the misuse of the construction "an" to the blatant disregard of commas, the article was littered with errors[...]

- did I say opposite, wtf?

Did I get this wrong?
he wrote review like his order was finished
Wasn't perfectly worded by me. I meant that he might write a review although he didn't want to have any revisions and thats definitely fine too.

- My comment is not a 'bitchy assumptions' like you're making right now, but a polite answer.
[...]it has no value since the purpose is not to provide an actual evaluation of the article but to get own sales and bring attention to his threads[...]

I got lots of new request and PM's, so I am actually glad that he made this post...as his promotion of himself worked good for me. I see that you already spent your budget on Jr.Vip, so I doubt you'll have money to place an order.


If I should ever place an order with your service I hope someone instantly reminds me to quit IM.

Edit: Thanks to the mod that fixed the italic font for me :)
 
This can't be verified so we're just going to have to take your word on this.

Or not.

Just like you choose to assume Harry did this for his own hidden agenda, I choose to assume you're lying about getting "lots of new request and PM's." Especially since I picked out five spelling and grammatical errors in that sentence alone.

Then again, we are talking about people who have about the same grasp on written English as you do. So from their perspective, you probably are impressive.

Although this does prove what a member of this forum said a long time ago: people will pay for literal shit if it's priced high enough. They mistakenly assume 10 cents a word means it must be premium content.

And I was told I couldn't price my content on my BST at 10 cents a word because it's too expensive and no one on BHW would pay for it. :rolleyes:

It's your choice what to assume. There may be much more grammatical errors - I do not write myself, but do have hired writers, so it's wrong to judge a quality of the service by a grammar of my comments. It is up to you what price to put on your services, but I think you're wrong to assume that BHW users won't pay for it.

Are you for real? Yes revisions may be necessary but not to correct basic spelling and grammar when you are providing a premium service.

Do your writers even know how to use a spell checker?????

Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.

- If you order shit - you get shit, no matter of refunds.
So if I order content from you I order shit? Good to know! But seriously, for this money you do not order shit, you expect at least a bit of quality.

- you definitely need a fucking revision even for the best fucking article, but he refused a revision
I talked about basic mistakes. You for sure don't need a revision for that.
Let me quote @hasa1015 at this point:


- did I say opposite, wtf?

Did I get this wrong?

Wasn't perfectly worded by me. I meant that he might write a review although he didn't want to have any revisions and thats definitely fine too.

- My comment is not a 'bitchy assumptions' like you're making right now, but a polite answer.


I got lots of new request and PM's, so I am actually glad that he made this post...as his promotion of himself worked good for me. I see that you already spent your budget on Jr.Vip, so I doubt you'll have money to place an order.


If I should ever place an order with your service I hope someone instantly reminds me to quit IM.

Edit: Thanks to the mod that fixed the italic font for me :)

So if I order content from you I order shit? Good to know! But seriously, for this money you do not order shit, you expect at least a bit of quality.
- No need to change my words and put wrong meaning, that's not what I said. If you order shitty article you get shitty article. If you care about what you're going to receive you're going to at least tell what you expect to see.

I talked about basic mistakes. You for sure don't need a revision for that.
- Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.

Wasn't perfectly worded by me. I meant that he might write a review although he didn't want to have any revisions and thats definitely fine too.
- That's why I say his purpose was not to get an article, but to write a review. I can get any service on BHW and depending on my mood write them bad review, just because I want so and I paid money to do so.

If I should ever place an order with your service I hope someone instantly reminds me to quit IM.
- That is fine :)
 
It's your choice what to assume. There may be much more grammatical errors - I do not write myself, but do have hired writers, so it's wrong to judge a quality of the service by a grammar of my comments. It is up to you what price to put on your services, but I think you're wrong to assume that BHW users won't pay for it.



Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.



So if I order content from you I order shit? Good to know! But seriously, for this money you do not order shit, you expect at least a bit of quality.
- No need to change my words and put wrong meaning, that's not what I said. If you order shitty article you get shitty article. If you care about what you're going to receive you're going to at least tell what you expect to see.

I talked about basic mistakes. You for sure don't need a revision for that.
- Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.

Wasn't perfectly worded by me. I meant that he might write a review although he didn't want to have any revisions and thats definitely fine too.
- That's why I say his purpose was not to get an article, but to write a review. I can get any service on BHW and depending on my mood write them bad review, just because I want so and I paid money to do so.

If I should ever place an order with your service I hope someone instantly reminds me to quit IM.
- That is fine :)
If you order shitty article you get shitty article. If you care about what you're going to receive you're going to at least tell what you expect to see.
Seems like you really care about your customers. You're a service provider, you have to deal with customers and what they order. If they order with bad instructions it's your part to make the best out of it. It's definitely not your part to not put any effort in just because of unfavourable information from the site of the customer.

- Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.
Does not change my point. 50$/500 words include basic grammar checks without further revisions. When I'd spend 50$ for content I don't want to have to ask you just to revise grammar mistakes.

- That's why I say his purpose was not to get an article, but to write a review. I can get any service on BHW and depending on my mood write them bad review, just because I want so and I paid money to do so.
Sadly Hasa's review is not based on his mood. The reason for his bad review is publicy available and obvious to anyone. It's your text.

 
If you order shitty article you get shitty article. If you care about what you're going to receive you're going to at least tell what you expect to see.
Seems like you really care about your customers. You're a service provider, you have to deal with customers and what they order. If they order with bad instructions it's your part to make the best out of it. It's definitely not your part to not put any effort in just because of unfavourable information from the site of the customer.

- Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.
Does not change my point. 50$/500 words include basic grammar checks without further revisions. When I'd spend 50$ for content I don't want to have to ask you just to revise grammar mistakes.

- That's why I say his purpose was not to get an article, but to write a review. I can get any service on BHW and depending on my mood write them bad review, just because I want so and I paid money to do so.
Sadly Hasa's review is not based on his mood. The reason for his bad review is publicy available and obvious to anyone. It's your text.

Seems like you really care about your customers. You're a service provider, you have to deal with customers and what they order. If they order with bad instructions it's your part to make the best out of it. It's definitely not your part to not put any effort in just because of unfavourable information from the site of the customer.
- I do :)

Does not change my point. 50$/500 words include basic grammar checks without further revisions. When I'd spend 50$ for content I don't want to have to ask you just to revise grammar mistakes.
- Does not change my point either, revisions are for revising everything, including grammar mistakes.

Sadly Hasa's review is not based on his mood. The reason for his bad review is publicy available and obvious to anyone. It's your text.
- I didn't speak about someone's mood, I said that the purpose was to write a review, so he can put up this thread, not to get an actual article.
When you want to get a good service you put effort into it, at least providing more details of what you expect to get and you don't fail to read a description.
 
@se900se, I get why this thread has angered you. It's "bad for business". What I don't get is why, instead of fixing the issues, offering review copies, and taking the customer service route, you are instead acting like a child and placing 100% of the blame on @hasa1015 not asking for revisions. If I pay $50 for a 500-word article, as people have already stated, I expect professional-level work. Not to have to guide the writer through revisions. And if I'm paying a dime for every word a writer is typing out, I also expect far better customer service than you are offering. You said in the post above "Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes." I'm not sure if you are new to the content game or not, but your job as a writer is to fix those errors before giving them to the buyer. Again, especially at $10 per 100 words. I'm not paying to be Grammarly for you. That's fucking ridiculous.

After reading through all of them, the three best that I saw were @kyescontent, @Floopa75 and @reallife. Their writing style is on par with close to what I would write on the same topic. I've ordered from Kye before, and their customer service and attention to detail is very much in-demand. In fact, I've ordered content from probably at least 10 of the people targeted in this case study. My experiences were along a very similar vein to what was attained in this thread.

This is one of my favorite threads that I've seen all year. Why? Because it alleviates the issue of "is this review copy/sample far above what I will receive so the writer can grab a sale?" I've said this before, I'll say it again I'm sure: The samples that a content writer gives you is their sales copy. This thread brings up a very common problem that, while not discussed much on BHW, is rampant. People overselling their services in order to make a fast dollar. This was a content audit, and I'm very glad it happened, as I was a few days away from sending se900se a message, and I guarantee the samples received would have been ten-times reviewed and glowing like no other.

Thinking Harry has an agenda on this is laughable. Thinking that Nick benefits from it in any way is even more laughable. I honestly believe that Harry has a similar line of thinking that I do. Help the community without having my fucking hand out for scraps. Believe it or not, there are people on here who do large-scale projects like this without expecting anything in return. There is nothing on his thread site that leads me to believe that he would open his nine-month-dormant sales thread that he asked to be closed, or try to monetize the review site for personal gain. If that were the case, he'd be a moron to not put ads up in the first place yesterday when he had thousands of visitors and a stone-cold-low bounce rate. Harry has done multiple things for me just in the past few months without expecting a single thing in return, even when I insisted that he let me pay him.

This all being said, here is what I would have done differently:

1) Put this in the Jr. VIP Lounge, which would have alleviated most of the "he's doing this for his own thread's benefit" bullshit.
2) Had Google Docs links in-thread versus a dedicated website, although I understand the reasoning completely.
3) Spread this out over the course of several months, and asked the seller for a different topic. This would fuzz out the one-off issues and give a solid portrayal of how the writer tackles a variety of topics.

All in all, I'm extremely happy this thread and project exists. It was a refreshing diversion from other bullshit attempts at this like Josh's "I'm going to make a seal and review everything" shitshow. It shows me who to avoid, who knows their shit, who can deliver quickly, and who will delay the ever loving fuck out of you for an average-ass article. Also, @alwaysinvisible, holla atcha boy when you are getting ready to start your service up.

you did not try https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/844610/ .... he is 1$ for each article is you order more :)

@bossofthebosses does not write the articles, he finds expired ones that have already been written. So their service isn't applicable for these kinds of case studies. But that is besides the point, as dollar for dollar it is definitely the best content deal for things such as PBN's and whatnot. Source: I've ordered 1,000+ articles from them over the past few months, and they overdeliver every damn time.

EDIT: That was 775 words, @hasa1015. I expect $77.50 in pennies delivered to my home address.
 
Oh good. You can repeat what other people say without having an original thought of your own.

That, plus the fact that you sell a service you know nothing about, makes you a great candidate for being a guru.

Let me make you a certificate.

Please make me one, but don't forget to make some grammar mistakes on it :D
 
@se900se


@bossofthebosses does not write the articles, he finds expired ones that have already been written. So their service isn't applicable for these kinds of case studies. But that is besides the point, as dollar for dollar it is definitely the best content deal for things such as PBN's and whatnot. Source: I've ordered 1,000+ articles from them over the past few months, and they overdeliver every damn time.

Yup, every time.
 
Ok, I am home now and at my computer, so I can reply in more detail.

I started off the day feeling great, but now I'm just bummed out. What a bunch of imbeciles this thread attracted.

I have also noticed that all members have clearly missed that OP is a provider of a content service around here too. Since I am, by nature, a skeptical person, I believe that OP had a clear intention of devaluing services of certain providers around here with a creation of this thread. He can obviously gain more attention to his sales thread if some of the sellers lose a momentum around here.

He already has a writing sales thread.

Are you guys serious? You are right, I have a content BST. I am clearly into writing, I have never made any attempt to hide that.

My BST was last bumped by me in December (3 Months ago) and you think I would go to all of this effort to make some sales?

I have given away literally hundreds of articles in the past. By your logic, why wouldn't I just do that again?

Free 500 word article
Free 500 word article
Free 500 word article
1000 Posts, $1000's worth of Articles! (I actually refused new orders that would have been generated from that thread, as you can see)

The only reason I never got my thread locked is becuase I didn't want the mods to bump it.

As soon as someone mentioned it today, I specifically asked them to close it and not bump it.

I didn't know he had a BST when I posted that. I was referring to the promotion of his new site.

Come to think of it, he could have pasted those articles in Pastebin... He successfully just launched a content provider review site and stuffed it with content (he's reviewing content!) with a single shot and now will have content providers from BHW checking that site for reviews forever.

He got a domain on Feb 22 which probably matches closely when he started ordering these articles(?), so for the past month he set this up to promote this new site.

Read the above post.

I added the content onto a site because it created one central place for people to view. There are no ads. There are no amazon links or any such other monetization attempt.

The website was hosted on my testing host plan, where I do tests. I was interested to know how well the content would rank, and why x content ranked better than y. I guess we will never know now.

I don't know why you think I want to do this to sell the site? The domain is clearly a joke and I doubt anyone wants to purchase "KontentReview." I've documented 100% of my costs exactly are they are, so why would someone buy the site off me for more?

Regardless of how utterly stupid your logic is, I have removed the site. You can now find all the articles on Google Docs.

- If you order shit - you get shit, no matter of refunds.

Dude, you're not helping yourself. The generic article instructions were for a reason, It was a test. You failed.

You've made yourself look like a prat on your BST, and now multiple times on your thread.

Why?

You two have the same avatar? Is this a JV? Yours is the funny article in the mix. What's up, mate? You guys playing us like Reddit?

Jesus christ. The avatar comes from this thread, which you even replied to.

You really have some wild theories.

2) Had Google Docs links in-thread versus a dedicated website, although I understand the reasoning completely.
3) Spread this out over the course of several months, and asked the seller for a different topic. This would fuzz out the one-off issues and give a solid portrayal of how the writer tackles a variety of topics.

2) I've now done that.
3) I felt that ordering everything on the same topic was the best way to go about things. From the article titles people came up with, you can tell who put effort into their work and who didn't. While I may be a stupid kid who wastes money like it's nothing, I'm not made of the stuff. I'm just laughing at the people who think I spent the money to bump my BST, which was never mentioned once until someone brought it up.
 
Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes.

If you hire premium writers they should not be making basic grammatical errors or spelling mistakes!

Just admit you fucked up on this, we all fuck up but it takes balls to admit to your mistakes. Honestly, people on here would most likely respect you more than if you continue trying to defend that rubbish you churned out!!!!
 
@se900se, I get why this thread has angered you. It's "bad for business". What I don't get is why, instead of fixing the issues, offering review copies, and taking the customer service route, you are instead acting like a child and placing 100% of the blame on @hasa1015 not asking for revisions. If I pay $50 for a 500-word article, as people have already stated, I expect professional-level work. Not to have to guide the writer through revisions. And if I'm paying a dime for every word a writer is typing out, I also expect far better customer service than you are offering. You said in the post above "Revisions to revise everything including basic grammar mistakes." I'm not sure if you are new to the content game or not, but your job as a writer is to fix those errors before giving them to the buyer. Again, especially at $10 per 100 words. I'm not paying to be Grammarly for you. That's fucking ridiculous.

After reading through all of them, the three best that I saw were @kyescontent, @Floopa75 and @reallife. Their writing style is on par with close to what I would write on the same topic. I've ordered from Kye before, and their customer service and attention to detail is very much in-demand. In fact, I've ordered content from probably at least 10 of the people targeted in this case study. My experiences were along a very similar vein to what was attained in this thread.

This is one of my favorite threads that I've seen all year. Why? Because it alleviates the issue of "is this review copy/sample far above what I will receive so the writer can grab a sale?" I've said this before, I'll say it again I'm sure: The samples that a content writer gives you is their sales copy. This thread brings up a very common problem that, while not discussed much on BHW, is rampant. People overselling their services in order to make a fast dollar. This was a content audit, and I'm very glad it happened, as I was a few days away from sending se900se a message, and I guarantee the samples received would have been ten-times reviewed and glowing like no other.

Thinking Harry has an agenda on this is laughable. Thinking that Nick benefits from it in any way is even more laughable. I honestly believe that Harry has a similar line of thinking that I do. Help the community without having my fucking hand out for scraps. Believe it or not, there are people on here who do large-scale projects like this without expecting anything in return. There is nothing on his thread site that leads me to believe that he would open his nine-month-dormant sales thread that he asked to be closed, or try to monetize the review site for personal gain. If that were the case, he'd be a moron to not put ads up in the first place yesterday when he had thousands of visitors and a stone-cold-low bounce rate. Harry has done multiple things for me just in the past few months without expecting a single thing in return, even when I insisted that he let me pay him.

This all being said, here is what I would have done differently:

1) Put this in the Jr. VIP Lounge, which would have alleviated most of the "he's doing this for his own thread's benefit" bullshit.
2) Had Google Docs links in-thread versus a dedicated website, although I understand the reasoning completely.
3) Spread this out over the course of several months, and asked the seller for a different topic. This would fuzz out the one-off issues and give a solid portrayal of how the writer tackles a variety of topics.

All in all, I'm extremely happy this thread and project exists. It was a refreshing diversion from other bullshit attempts at this like Josh's "I'm going to make a seal and review everything" shitshow. It shows me who to avoid, who knows their shit, who can deliver quickly, and who will delay the ever loving fuck out of you for an average-ass article. Also, @alwaysinvisible, holla atcha boy when you are getting ready to start your service up.



@bossofthebosses does not write the articles, he finds expired ones that have already been written. So their service isn't applicable for these kinds of case studies. But that is besides the point, as dollar for dollar it is definitely the best content deal for things such as PBN's and whatnot. Source: I've ordered 1,000+ articles from them over the past few months, and they overdeliver every damn time.

Too long to read and I think this thread already took more of my attention that it should.
This thread didn't make me nor angry nor happy, it's just one of the reviews, I don't leave pleasant reviews too often myself.
Every seller gets different kinds of reviews - and it's okay :) You can't judge my customer service as I you're not my customer.
 
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