Did you do anything like disavowing links or removing pbn or any other action?
Did you do anything like disavowing links or removing pbn or any other action?
Please listen: don't ever do anything to your site during a update. Even if it disappears. Just sit still, enjoy some tea (or whiskey), enjoy the tsunami like @BlackSeng said.
A lot of sites will reappear. (These threads are exactly the same since 1999.)
What happens if the update puts your site back in position, then because you removed links you drop?Yeah I removed around 40 links
Just when you think it can't get any worse
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What happens if the update puts your site back in position, then because you removed links you drop?
Should have waited...
I disagree, I have two sites I used my private net with, good authority, relevant topical TF and they've both dropped (all pbn's are indexed still).Look, I DO NOT believe there was a full Penguin update but.... if I were Google and based on what you guys are saying I'd say the AI may have made some SMALL adjustments doing something like this: give less link juice to low authority multi-niche (or changed niche) websites that were redesigned/dropped/expired in the last 18 months. This would effect people who bought public PBNs, or built a private PBN on a domain that they changed the topic/niche of. And even THIS is a stretch in my humble opinion. Seems equally likely that Google just busted a few PBN networks and the damage spread, or that the AI changed some sliders for judging certain niches. But I honestly do NOT think this was an actual "update" from Google. You have to keep in mind that the Google Brain AI changes tons of things on a daily basis to balance out the SERPS. So finding out any ONE cause to this pounding many of you took will be hard, it may be several factors you all have in common.
-ThopHayt
Oh that completely changes things lol.I agree but two of the pbn networks linked were penalized so I had nothing much to lose.
I disagree, I have two sites I used my private net with, good authority, relevant topical TF and they've both dropped (all pbn's are indexed still).
Then I have another site i've used just exact match links from a public network, low quality blog comments, 40%+ EM anchors. This site has gone +15 for the main keywords.
Seemed like a penguin refresh to me
Oh that completely changes things lol.
All expired, and a mixture. Some decent cloud hosting, some cheap shitty 5$ a year.Was your PBNs based on Expired domains or auction ones? And what hosting are they in?
after how many times come back your key in serp?I also see that some of my keywords are coming back to position. I have done nothing... i'm just patient
I disagree, I have two sites I used my private net with, good authority, relevant topical TF and they've both dropped (all pbn's are indexed still).
Then I have another site i've used just exact match links from a public network, low quality blog comments, 40%+ EM anchors. This site has gone +15 for the main keywords.
Seemed like a penguin refresh to me
I haven't any ads, and lost 50% trafficHere is an update on seroundtable
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-fred-update-ad-heavy-low-value-23538.html
That is bullshit.Here is an update on seroundtable
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-fred-update-ad-heavy-low-value-23538.html
Along with ads he mentioned 'Low Value Content Sites'I haven't any ads, and lost 50% traffic
My site doesn't have any ads. Each post has over 1000 words, over 20+ of them are 3000 words+, there is no 400 - 500 words article. That assumption is just BS.Along with ads he mentioned 'Low Value Content Sites'