Can Aff Network know how I get my leads?

[DigitalShark]

I am curious can they see the quality of my leads if I use prelander with a button on it.
Can someone explain this to me?

 

[Heisenberg]

They can detect HTTP Referer header, google about it to see how exactly does it work

 

[DigitalShark]

They can detect HTTP Referer header, google about it to see how exactly does it work

That is the answer I was looking for. Thank you so much!

 

[uncutu]

They will determine the quality after they sign up. ex. how many people turn into paying customers. they won't keep you around if they pay you for leads and those leads never turn into paying customers.
But they can detect your referrer and do research about your domain to see where it's coming from and what you're doing just like @Heisenb0rg suggested.

 

[DaPromo]

Like someone above wrote, referrer is sent in a HTTP header, IF you allow it to!

Since ~2015-2016, a new feature was recognized among the more popular browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Safari). See reference: https://www.w3.org/TR/referrer-policy/

There is plenty of "hacks" to conceal or completely remove a referrer too in HTML, such as:

The Data URI conceal. Redirect visitors to open a new tab with the content in Spoilers

Spoiler

data:text/html,<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="0; url=https://www.whatismyreferer.com/">

Or the simplest today:

Spoiler

If you own a HTTPS (you can just connect your domain to cloudflare. They provide free SSL cert for your domain, no setup, no charge), you can link to a non-HTTPS site and it wont transmit your referer.
So:
https://yourdomain.com/redirect.com -> http://www.affiliatenetwork.com/lander.php

This simple solution wont show the referer of visitors

And there is a HTTP form submit to it's own page to strip the referer. I can code this to you if you want, for free, but it won't be necessary as I recommend the second option with HTTPS to non SSL

 

[royserpa]

They can detect HTTP Referer header, google about it to see how exactly does it work

You can spoof that man.
I've made boatloads of money spoofing referrers, though some companies didn't pay due to "lead issues"

 

[DigitalShark]

You can spoof that man.
I've made boatloads of money spoofing referrers, though some companies didn't pay due to "lead issues"

Basically you can get fake leads and they would pay you for that if you can somehow hide it?

 

[uncutu]

Basically you can get fake leads and they would pay you for that if you can somehow hide it?

if you're thinking about cheating an aff network with fake leads don't bother. you can spoof all you want. will not matter when they review your leads, see they're junk, and your account will be terminated when it comes time for your payout.
now if you're already sending legit leads, you can go ahead and send junk to bolster your stats...you will still run risk of getting banned but won't be sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

[royserpa]

Like someone above wrote, referrer is sent in a HTTP header, IF you allow it to!

Since ~2015-2016, a new feature was recognized among the more popular browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Safari). See reference: https://www.w3.org/TR/referrer-policy/

There is plenty of "hacks" to conceal or completely remove a referrer too in HTML, such as:

The Data URI conceal. Redirect visitors to open a new tab with the content in Spoilers

Spoiler

data:text/html,<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="0; url=https://www.whatismyreferer.com/">

Or the simplest today:

Spoiler

If you own a HTTPS (you can just connect your domain to cloudflare. They provide free SSL cert for your domain, no setup, no charge), you can link to a non-HTTPS site and it wont transmit your referer.
So:
https://yourdomain.com/redirect.com -> http://www.affiliatenetwork.com/lander.php

This simple solution wont show the referer of visitors

And there is a HTTP form submit to it's own page to strip the referer. I can code this to you if you want, for free, but it won't be necessary as I recommend the second option with HTTPS to non SSL

Better yet, spoof the referrer.

No need to blank it.

What you want to do is create a landing page that actually links to your network offer. Then what you do is, do your shady stuff BUT spoof the referrer to that landing page you created, so that when the networks see your landing page, they see that traffic is coming from there.

 

[royserpa]

if you're thinking about cheating an aff network with fake leads don't bother. you can spoof all you want. will not matter when they review your leads, see they're junk, and your account will be terminated when it comes time for your payout.
now if you're already sending legit leads, you can go ahead and send junk to bolster your stats...you will still run risk of getting banned but won't be sticking out like a sore thumb.

Exactly, you generate GOOD leads but you still spoof the referrer. I'm not talking about giving shit leads and expect to get paid. I'm talking about sending legit leads through spoofed referrer.

It's just that these networks still won't pay you as they tell you crap.

Happened to me. I was generating and buying good leads but companies decided not to pay me even though they were shaving 1/3rd of the leads I sent. Every day I was sending like 30 leads and only getting credited like 20 or so.

What did i do? Just decided to go on my own as they owe me $75k still from leads...

Now with my own product, I don't have ANYONE to tell me what I'm doing is wrong.

 

[DigitalShark]

Exactly, you generate GOOD leads but you still spoof the referrer. I'm not talking about giving shit leads and expect to get paid. I'm talking about sending legit leads through spoofed referrer.

It's just that these networks still won't pay you as they tell you crap.

Happened to me. I was generating and buying good leads but companies decided not to pay me even though they were shaving 1/3rd of the leads I sent. Every day I was sending like 30 leads and only getting credited like 20 or so.

What did i do? Just decided to go on my own as they owe me $75k still from leads...

Now with my own product, I don't have ANYONE to tell me what I'm doing is wrong.

Can you tell me a little bit about spoofing referrer?

 

[DaPromo]

It's not possible to spoof referer? Unless you sit on a massive logic exploit. Nothing is impossible though, that's for sure. Care to give more details?

What I Know is you can spoof visitors by creating a twitter short url, land them on a facebook post to then go to your link, and the list goes on. But nothing automated since queries carried by HTTP is handled client-sided and javascript cannot control what a browser send in a HTTP request.

 

[royserpa]

Can you tell me a little bit about spoofing referrer?

It's not possible to spoof referer? Unless you sit on a massive logic exploit. Nothing is impossible though, that's for sure. Care to give more details?

What I Know is you can spoof visitors by creating a twitter short url, land them on a facebook post to then go to your link, and the list goes on. But nothing automated since queries carried by HTTP is handled client-sided and javascript cannot control what a browser send in a HTTP request.

That is correct, we can't enter third party sites like google.com and so, but what I suggest doing is using your own sites as the referrer.

This is a good practice to send traffic that would've been rejected by networks, but I don't work with networks anymore due to their scammy behavior.

You can certainly find php scripts here in BHW that can be used for this purpose.