How many people here truly want wealth?

[BlackhatBen]

Tried to show a broke friend how to make money online. At first they were saying "omg i need this tell me tell me". Then they thought i was trying to scam them because of too good to be true nature of it. Then they fell back to "man this isn't for me, its immoral". While they hold an I phone in their hand. I definitely agree man, people don't want to be financially secure unless the wealth comes with social status. Its pathetic how much society influences the mind yet people don't realize.

100% This is the truth.

I know construction workers making $1,000 a week, while paper-pushers in offices make $20k a year. Guess who looks down on the other one.

 

[Duffers5000]

This BlackhatBen character is a straight up playa.

What do they call you in da hood ? Ben G ?

 

[BlackhatBen]

Be glad you did; it was laden with fraud.

Honest question: Do you disagree that a lot of the CPA and IM advertised here constitutes wire fraud?

Also, my method involves putting the illegality on the affiliates, not absorbing it.

 

[PHPInjected]

That's not what bothered me.

Believe what you want, anyone experienced in my niche has an idea of how much someone like me can plausibly make. So I don't need to justify my earnings to you.

But I guarantee I make more than you ever will.

You've been sitting here for hours trying to justify why eWhoring makes money, so there's one contradiction.

How would you know how much I make or even how much I already have? Because I disagree with your trash ass method and garbage representation? Nice logic.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Honest question: Do you disagree that a lot of the CPA and IM advertised here constitutes wire fraud?

Honest answer.

That's got nothing to do with why your thread was deleted.

Deflection rarely works with me.

 

[BlackhatBen]

For me it is not about only whether something is shady or not. Each of us has our own moral code.

It is about whether it is SUSTAINABLE or not.

I did plenty of short term spam back in mostly 2011, and made good money but it wasnt sustainable. I could have used it wisely to move on to more sustainable stuff but I didn't.

In 2016 building a new business I do shy away from most "shady" forms of marketing, but only because it isn't sustainable long term. I wasted years doing short term stuff so now I am more focused on building a lifelong website / IM business.

For example: if someone showed me a "blackhat" way to rank some keywords that was not detectable and would only help my long term business, I would do it. It would make sense because it would add to my long term websites, but the fact is its harder to find these things without screwing something up.

When it comes to shady loopholes or spam methods meant to just make short term cash, its not worth it to me. Its not a moral standpoint, but its my only way I feel like to actually succeed. When I focus on short term more spammy methods, I end up with shiny object syndrome and get nowhere.


I guess what I am saying is my point of view, that for me I seem to be avoiding the more questionable tactics this time around when in the past I used to spam facebook with scammy shit like crazy. Its not because its not a good idea, so for some they might spend more time doing this type of stuff.

For me, my true holy grail is having a mostly legit website / IM business, but it takes ALOT longer to do things the legit way.

I got a bit off track but with the wanting wealth thing.

That means alot to me, I was a bit younger when I started Internet Marketing so I always dreamed of showing off with fancy cars and other delusions of grandeur.

Of course those never showed up, but they were false dreams anyways.

Now my only goal is passive income, and steady long term earnings. I do want them to be high enough to make fast money, but I am not concerned with flashy stuff. I only want security for the rest of my life.

I agree 100%.

 

[BlackhatBen]

You've been sitting here for hours trying to justify why eWhoring makes money, so there's one contradiction.

How would you know how much I make or even how much I already have? Because I disagree with your trash ass method and garbage representation? Nice logic.

Nope. I was disputing some of the claims Asif made, which other users like Eliot305 backed up. When someone talks rubbish about something I know well, I dispute it.

I don't want to convince anyone eWhoring makes money. And to be fair, it doesn't really on its own. eWhoring + programming ability + social engineering + offshoots makes money.

The "eWhoring" is just an initial marketing tool to capture attention. Not where the money comes from.

 

[BlackhatBen]

You've been sitting here for hours trying to justify why eWhoring makes money, so there's one contradiction.

How would you know how much I make or even how much I already have? Because I disagree with your trash ass method and garbage representation? Nice logic.

I probably make more than you simply because - judging from your posts - the operations you run are no way near as extensive enough to be able to reap the amount of money I make.

I may be wrong, but probably not.

 

[MonsterMag]

Everybody has their own moral compass and while a lot of people here happily scam around with fake-CPA, they would most probably not say that theft or fraud is ok - simply because they don't understand that there is no big difference.

 

[MatteoMatt]

This thread had potential but it just devolved into such as shitshow. Its ok though I guess I am not helping with my post.

 

[JRB137]

My reason for being here is making some serious money

I've already learned a lot so far and actually started earning slowly within a few days!

 

[Sombrero]

Nah

 

[BlackhatBen]

My reason for being here is making some serious money

I've already learned a lot so far and actually started earning slowly within a few days!

Well done mate. You sound motivated.

I'm no guru, but my two cents for making serious money: don't waste time on stuff that can't scale, unless you don't have the technical ability to scale and can't afford to hire someone to provide those skills.

If you smell money emanating from a niche, extract every ounce of profit you can from it relentlessly. That means going the extra mile, and doing stuff that other people find "extra"/"overcomplicated".

People criticize my methods for valid legal reasons, but the philosophy is to aim for high 5 figures min. per niche with no hindrances (or within the bounds of your morality).

Good luck!

 

[JRB137]

Well done mate. You sound motivated.

I'm no guru, but my two cents for making serious money: don't waste time on stuff that can't scale, unless you don't have the technical ability to scale and can't afford to hire someone to provide those skills.

If you smell money emanating from a niche, extract every ounce of profit you can from it relentlessly. That means going the extra mile, and doing stuff that other people find "extra"/"overcomplicated".

People criticize my methods for valid legal reasons, but the philosophy is to aim for high 5 figures min. per niche with no hindrances (or within the bounds of your morality).

Good luck!

Thanks for that

A solid plan is flawless if you plan things correctly, good luck to you on your ventures!

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

To be honest I don't mind reading methods that are legal or illegal but they need to be proven to be methods and proven to work.

Some kid that has an idea and posts it to a forum doesn't make it a method.

A method is tested prior to being called a method otherwise it is nothing.

The whole world is full of idea men but the real money makers are the ones that test and prove.

 

[mickyfu]

This BlackhatBen character is a straight up playa.

What do they call you in da hood ? Ben G ?

Benny G, dat sounds like one of Charlie C's bad boys.

 

[mickyfu]

,When someone talks rubbish about something I know well, I dispute it.

You can't tech this kid anything about dressing up in a frock and pretending to be a girl.

 

[BlackhatBen]

To be honest I don't mind reading methods that are legal or illegal but they need to be proven to be methods and proven to work.

Some kid that has an idea and posts it to a forum doesn't make it a method.

A method is tested prior to being called a method otherwise it is nothing.

The whole world is full of idea men but the real money makers are the ones that test and prove.

Like I said in the previous thread: The method was based on thousands of conversation's worth of empirical evidence.

I don't have "ideas". I form hypotheses based on empirical evidence on reasonably sized samples, then test and improve the implementation of the hypotheses.

There's a fallacy some people perpetuate that you have to "do it" to prove it works.

That's not how science works lol.

Things can be deduced logically and you can make probabilistic statements.

Look bro, I make a shitload of money so don't teach me about "money makers", and let's keep this conversation within the realm of what we can discuss meaningfully: i.e. deductive logic

I handheld you through the 2 basic facts and corresponding 2 assumed corollaries upon which my method was based.

You disputed nothing. So I don't see why you have to pretend to have something meaningful to say.

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

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There's a fallacy some people perpetuate that you have to "do it" to prove it works.

That's not how science works lol.

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LMAO Dude, that is EXACTLY how science works lol

 

[mickyfu]

Another "look at me, I make shit tons" thread. How very sad, but no one really gives a fuck about what you do or don't make.

But here is my guess....ewhoring, the lowest form of marketing. Probably a kid who thinks shit tons is £500.