PBN ranking question

[KireG]

I want to ask two questions:
1. Let's assume that I want to rank for a keyword with 10k searches a month, is there a way to calculate how many PBN backlinks are required for ranking that page to #1?
2. If I want to buy 10 PBN Backlinks with PA, DA 15+, how much would it cost?

Thanks in advance for the answer.

P.S. I'm a newbie in PBN and Web 2.0. My goal is to learn how to rank my page to #1 with PBN's and Web 2.0 properties.

 

[onlineonly]

No its not possible to calculate that since there are way to many factors to consider.

 

[KireG]

No its not possible to calculate that since there are way to many factors to consider.

Thank you for the answer. Maybe you know something about 2nd question?

 

[Monsterer]

For ranking PBN links only are not a major one.
Instead of quality you have to concentrate more on quality.
For good rankings you have to concentrate on both ON page and OFF page methods.

 

[evadrable]

You know whats required once it ranks!

 

[nichexposure]

First of all i dont think you can rank using PBN and Web 2.0 only for 10k search volume keywords. On the other hand you can actually it depends on the competition. So its not possible to measure how many you need. What you need to start with few. See the progress and based on it increase the link list with new one. Hope it makes sense.

There are lots of service provider for PBN at BHW. You need to check all service and their prices. Then you will have the idea how much you need to spend. And check the review first before buying any service. And if you wanna build your own PBN then it depends on what type of domain you need to buy. Auction domain or dropped domain from expire list. You need to do your calculate here

 

[nishanknx]

There is no such number first of all. It is totally dependent on the keyword, the search volume and competition.
Get started with few. See the progress and based on it increase the link list with new one

As for the price, just go the marketplace on bhw

 

[KireG]

First of all i dont think you can rank using PBN and Web 2.0 only for 10k search volume keywords. On the other hand you can actually it depends on the competition. So its not possible to measure how many you need. What you need to start with few. See the progress and based on it increase the link list with new one. Hope it makes sense.

There are lots of service provider for PBN at BHW. You need to check all service and their prices. Then you will have the idea how much you need to spend. And check the review first before buying any service. And if you wanna build your own PBN then it depends on what type of domain you need to buy. Auction domain or dropped domain from expire list. You need to do your calculate here

I understand and totally agree with what you've said.

However, I've found one thread on google about ranking pages with Web 2.0. In the tutorial the guy said that he ranked his page for a keyword with 10k monthly searches, using 30 Web 2.0 properties and social signals. He didn't use any PBN backlink.
So, this is where I got a little confused.. He ranked his page with only Web 2.0 properties, and some guys say that you need both PBN and Web 2.0 backlinks to rank a page.

Sorry if I digress, I just wanted to state my confusion about the problem and learn smth new.

 

[nishanknx]

Sorry if I digress, I just wanted to state my confusion about the problem and learn smth new.

It's just a case of the competition being low or non existent which is why he could do so

 

[nichexposure]

I understand and totally agree with what you've said.

However, I've found one thread on google about ranking pages with Web 2.0. In the tutorial the guy said that he ranked his page for a keyword with 10k monthly searches, using 30 Web 2.0 properties and social signals. He didn't use any PBN backlink.
So, this is where I got a little confused.. He ranked his page with only Web 2.0 properties, and some guys say that you need both PBN and Web 2.0 backlinks to rank a page.

Sorry if I digress, I just wanted to state my confusion about the problem and learn smth new.

As i told you mate it depends on keyword competition. I can show you 100 search volume keywords with extreme high competition on the other hand 10k search volume keyword with much less competition. So i dont know how competitive your keyword is. Again as i stated above you need to start. Fix On page SEO properly then Start with web 2.0. Build 20-30 whatever you can in a proper way. Monitor the progress and if you can rank using it then BOOM . If not add more properties and other link platform. Do proper anchor text distribution. After that if you cant rank then start pushing 1-2 PBN for your targeted keyword rather then push all. In one word track the progress and work on it.

 

[judaculla]

With the availability of data these days, there probably is a number—that predicts the average numbers of links and link types needed. I don't have access to that number, but I've learned to never underestimate the power of data & determination when combined!

Practically speaking, every keyword is different. Look at the links other sites ranking for your keyword have. Maybe they have 2-3, maybe some have 50, maybe you're trying to rank for 'credit card' and there are MILLIONS of links to your competition. Every single keyword will have a different amount of backlinks and strategy needed to rank for. Some are easier, some are hopeless.

Check out the market here, probably not that much but remember, those are services and not private domains. Those links will probably eventually get flagged, or cause penalty. Best bet is build your own over time while using only enough paid links to get started in easy keywords during the process.

 

[KireG]

As i told you mate it depends on keyword competition. I can show you 100 search volume keywords with extreme high competition on the other hand 10k search volume keyword with much less competition. So i dont know how competitive your keyword is. Again as i stated above you need to start. Fix On page SEO properly then Start with web 2.0. Build 20-30 whatever you can in a proper way. Monitor the progress and if you can rank using it then BOOM . If not add more properties and other link platform. Do proper anchor text distribution. After that if you cant rank then start pushing 1-2 PBN for your targeted keyword rather then push all. In one word track the progress and work on it.

My on page SEO is good (I guess). I use the Yoast SEO plugin and I try to get green color on every aspect. I especially watch on my keyword density, alt atributes of the photos, etc. That's why I wanted to move on with Web 2.0 and PBN backlinks. Thank you.

 

[KireG]

It's just a case of the competition being low or non existent which is why he could do so

Thank you!

 

[KireG]

With the availability of data these days, there probably is a number—that predicts the average numbers of links and link types needed. I don't have access to that number, but I've learned to never underestimate the power of data & determination when combined!

Practically speaking, every keyword is different. Look at the links other sites ranking for your keyword have. Maybe they have 2-3, maybe some have 50, maybe you're trying to rank for 'credit card' and there are MILLIONS of links to your competition. Every single keyword will have a different amount of backlinks and strategy needed to rank for. Some are easier, some are hopeless.

Check out the market here, probably not that much but remember, those are services and not private domains. Those links will probably eventually get flagged, or cause penalty. Best bet is build your own over time while using only enough paid links to get started in easy keywords during the process.

Thank you for the reply and advice.
One question: do you know any free tool to check the competition rankings, because the guy in the tutorial was using some kind of paid tool to check on his competition? Thank you in advance.

 

[Aty]

1. no
2. depends on quality

 

[judaculla]

LongTailPro used to be the go-to for most beginners b/c it's fairly cheap and makes a decent broad analysis. Since Google's update to Keyword planner volume numbers, it's been a bit useless for many people. I believe (haven't done it myself) that you can use an AdWords manager account and still get good access to that type of volume data. Apart from the volume issue though, it does competitor analysis for common metrics like Moz Page Authority and Domain authority, domain age, and even shows backlink counts. I'm not sure where they get their data for the backlinks, but it was always pretty decent in my opinion.

Here's a list of tools, that isn't exhaustive by any means (search the forum for more):
SemRush
SpyFU
Majestic
Ahrefs
PowerSEO Looking Glass (the green product, can't remember the name exactly) (desktop software)

Most have limited free access so you can get a gist of what you'd be paying for, and some have free trials.

Not sure what tutorial you're talking about, but if you post a screen shot somewhere I'd be happy to wager a guess at what software he's using.

 

[PBNSurprise]

Thank you for the reply and advice.
One question: do you know any free tool to check the competition rankings, because the guy in the tutorial was using some kind of paid tool to check on his competition? Thank you in advance.

You can use seostack keyword tool to check competition for a keyword: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/...d-tool/labjajhkfjfncpiddbgdimcaldgeognn?hl=en

If you're experienced you can manually determine how the competition is for your keyword, this involves looking at the top results for the keyword, checking their backlink profiles, etc. If your competition is low for your 10k monthly searches keyword you can easily rank with a few PBN posts and web 2.0s. Low competition would mean no authority sites in the top results, maybe some youtube videos or wikihow articles, or random blogs with very little backlinks.

If you need PBN posts I can get you 5 posts for cheap, just check out my sales thread

 

[KireG]

LongTailPro used to be the go-to for most beginners b/c it's fairly cheap and makes a decent broad analysis. Since Google's update to Keyword planner volume numbers, it's been a bit useless for many people. I believe (haven't done it myself) that you can use an AdWords manager account and still get good access to that type of volume data. Apart from the volume issue though, it does competitor analysis for common metrics like Moz Page Authority and Domain authority, domain age, and even shows backlink counts. I'm not sure where they get their data for the backlinks, but it was always pretty decent in my opinion.

Here's a list of tools, that isn't exhaustive by any means (search the forum for more):
SemRush
SpyFU
Majestic
Ahrefs
PowerSEO Looking Glass (the green product, can't remember the name exactly) (desktop software)

Most have limited free access so you can get a gist of what you'd be paying for, and some have free trials.

Not sure what tutorial you're talking about, but if you post a screen shot somewhere I'd be happy to wager a guess at what software he's using.

Thank you for the reply. I can't find the tutorial right now, I kind of lost the link..

 

[KireG]

You can use seostack keyword tool to check competition for a keyword: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/...d-tool/labjajhkfjfncpiddbgdimcaldgeognn?hl=en

If you're experienced you can manually determine how the competition is for your keyword, this involves looking at the top results for the keyword, checking their backlink profiles, etc. If your competition is low for your 10k monthly searches keyword you can easily rank with a few PBN posts and web 2.0s. Low competition would mean no authority sites in the top results, maybe some youtube videos or wikihow articles, or random blogs with very little backlinks.

If you need PBN posts I can get you 5 posts for cheap, just check out my sales thread

Thank you for your reply!

 

[staypositive]

You can use seostack keyword tool to check competition for a keyword: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/...d-tool/labjajhkfjfncpiddbgdimcaldgeognn?hl=en

If you're experienced you can manually determine how the competition is for your keyword, this involves looking at the top results for the keyword, checking their backlink profiles, etc. If your competition is low for your 10k monthly searches keyword you can easily rank with a few PBN posts and web 2.0s. Low competition would mean no authority sites in the top results, maybe some youtube videos or wikihow articles, or random blogs with very little backlinks.

If you need PBN posts I can get you 5 posts for cheap, just check out my sales thread

hi buddy,

thx for the add on, i installed and i see theres rank 1-10, does it mean rank 10 = easiest to compete with??