EBN or pbn.hosting - What's Better?

[Nerevar]

You don't have to pay anything to EBN for posting articles, that is a Content Module that is an optional upgrade. Obviously you can login to any blog and just post the articles.

As for IPs, it's an old question and we addressed it on our help center and blog post.

 

[LeanLow]

Use CloudFlare for 30% of your most valuable sites, and the rest of 70% of on hosts such as EBN, pbn.hosting, priority prospect etc.

 

[PBNButler]

What a lot of people have also started to do, is to buy higher quality domains and building them out as Moneysites. Then finding real reasons to link out to your main MS.
The benefit being that you dont have to hide behind anything, downside being that your build cost is higher.
But as the domains would be higher quality, you would also achieve more with less links, so its all a question of maths.

 

[Nerevar]

If you use CloudFlare, make sure you're not leaking the IPs. We wrote a blog post on the topic.

 

[NulledCode]

Isn't cloudflare now part of Googles Cloud platform? This means all of cloud flare traffic is routed through google.

 

[6TiME6]

Isn't cloudflare now part of Googles Cloud platform? This means all of cloud flare traffic is routed through google.

No, it's not.

 

[NulledCode]

No, it's not.

so what does this mean?

https://www.cloudflare.com/google/

 

[MikeyMikey13]

If you use CloudFlare, make sure you're not leaking the IPs. We wrote a https://blog.easyblognetworks.com/2016/research-two-thirds-pbns-cloudflare-leak-real-ips/.

Just taken a look, how do you fix the cpanel issue? Just not go with them at all?

 

[6TiME6]

so what does this mean?

It means that they use optimized routing for backend (origin) servers that are hosted on the Google Cloud Platform. It doesn't mean they use Google's network to deliver content to visitors.

"As part of this program, 30 CloudFlare points of presence (PoPs) are directly connected to Google Cloud Platform’s infrastructure. When one of these CloudFlare PoPs requests content from a Google Cloud Platform origin, it’s routed through a high-performance interconnect instead of the public Internet."

 

[Nerevar]

Just taken a look, how do you fix the cpanel issue? Just not go with them at all?

Correct, cPanel is useless for hiding behind CF because it always leaks the IP.

 

[6TiME6]

Correct, cPanel is useless for hiding behind CF because it always leaks the IP.

Not if you don't set an A record for the hostname that resolves to the backend IP address and just use the server IP directly to access cPanel/WHM instead. So saying cPanel leaks the IP isn't accurate. The cPanel port redirecting to the hostname you configured is the issue, so ultimately just a DNS recond that points to the backend instead of going through CloudFlare's reverse proxy.

 

[andrew1978]

diversity is the key

 

[kudanil]

I think EBN is good enough

 

[Blackhat_Guru]

We have used them in the past but have decided to migrate our network to our own hosting solution. The IPs they have are dedicated (so not shared with any legit sites as would be the case with shared IPs) and are used to only host their clients' PBN sites. So you can imagine that the IPs have anywhere from 20 to 100+ PBN blogs only hosted on them, which was obviously a huge red flag for us.

Many hight end SEO companies look for high standards and you're surely one of them.
Do you guys create your own pbn or you use one of these like EBN or PBN.hosting?

 

[aidenhera]

Sounds to me like it would be optimal to use cloudflare for 30% of your PBN then, since it represents 30% organically. I wasn't aware it had grown to such large volume. Seems like yesterday it was brand new...

-ThopHayt

why not use it on 100%?
expired domains already have other domains linking to them, + you will put OBL to random sites, and you also have a lot of links already pointing to MS. I dont see why we should limit ourselves to 30%. Even if its 100%, then depending on how big your link profile is, pbns might be about 10% of your overall MS backlink profile . so its 10% on CF not 100%.

 

[tahkcalbetihw]

Just sign up for a variety of hosts, use unique IP (no sharing), and use different platforms (not all WP). Then privatize your registrar info.