will rel canonical deindex your page?
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validseo
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Page is a wishy washy term.... There are URLs and content. A page is a particular combination of a URL and some content. Your content (and pages) each have infinite possible URLS
http://cnn.com
https://cnn.com
http://cnn.com/
https://cnn.com/
http://cnn.com//
https://cnn.com//
http://www.cnn.com
https://www.cnn.com
http://cnn.com#1
http://cnn.com#2
http://cnn.com#...
http://cnn.com?var1=boot
http://cnn.com?var2=toot
...
Canonical URL is a strong hint for google to know the "official" URL for the content you provided. It could even be on a different site.
So if google credits a different page for the content does Google deindex your page. No. The page is still indexed but is filtered out as a duplicate copy. You have to add &filter=0 to your search URL to put the filtered URLs back. Google filters duplicates and limits results to 2 per hostname (generally) by default.
What you are calling "deindexing" is actually that filtering, which for all practical purposes have the same effect, but technically are different.
If you canonical page1 to page2 you are telling google that page1 and page2 are the same page and that page2 is the official URL. In a fair and just world Google will show page2 and filter page1. But Google often doesn't usually because some other stronger signal is overriding your suggestion, like all the URLs in your navigation pointing to the other URL, or the world at large preferring the other URL, etc...
To overcome the signal confusion you need to redirect the old URL to the new.
Otherwise you are just trying to rank the same content twice on two different URLs.
Hope this helps!
http://cnn.com
https://cnn.com
http://cnn.com/
https://cnn.com/
http://cnn.com//
https://cnn.com//
http://www.cnn.com
https://www.cnn.com
http://cnn.com#1
http://cnn.com#2
http://cnn.com#...
http://cnn.com?var1=boot
http://cnn.com?var2=toot
...
Canonical URL is a strong hint for google to know the "official" URL for the content you provided. It could even be on a different site.
So if google credits a different page for the content does Google deindex your page. No. The page is still indexed but is filtered out as a duplicate copy. You have to add &filter=0 to your search URL to put the filtered URLs back. Google filters duplicates and limits results to 2 per hostname (generally) by default.
What you are calling "deindexing" is actually that filtering, which for all practical purposes have the same effect, but technically are different.
If you canonical page1 to page2 you are telling google that page1 and page2 are the same page and that page2 is the official URL. In a fair and just world Google will show page2 and filter page1. But Google often doesn't usually because some other stronger signal is overriding your suggestion, like all the URLs in your navigation pointing to the other URL, or the world at large preferring the other URL, etc...
To overcome the signal confusion you need to redirect the old URL to the new.
Otherwise you are just trying to rank the same content twice on two different URLs.
Hope this helps!
ThopHayt
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- Jul 25, 2011
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If you are using canonical right it shouldn't matter. The term means that you are telling Google that there are multiple "versions" or "states" the the EXACT same page and that they should disregard all of them except the ONE for content purposes. This lets Google know you aren't running around duplicating your own content 1,000 times to inflate your page count intentionally. A good example is if you like site.com/contact.html and after you send a message it sends you at site.com/contact-success.html that looks EXACTLY the same but had a green checkbox where a message icon used to be. You canonical the success page so Google doesn't get confused. Otherwise they may start ranking the success page and ignore your contact page.
-ThopHayt
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I use the rel="canonical" tag where there may be a redundant page(s) that look a lot alike and provide zero benefit from an SEO standpoint. A good example would be a real estate website with thousands of listings that are separated into multiple pages.
For example, you have the main page: .com/listings/jacksonville. The next page might be .com/listings/jacksonville=p1 and =p2 and so on. I usually like to ad the rel="canonical" tag in instances such as these, where pages may be redundant and you simply want to tell Google so. It's almost like telling them to ignore it and here is the page I want you to pay attention too. In essence, they aren't technically deindexing the page, many times they are simply ignoring it. That doesn't mean they won't index the page though.
Not sure why you would be trying to rank a page with this tag higher than a main page. That wouldn't really make sense. Can you elaborate?
For example, you have the main page: .com/listings/jacksonville. The next page might be .com/listings/jacksonville=p1 and =p2 and so on. I usually like to ad the rel="canonical" tag in instances such as these, where pages may be redundant and you simply want to tell Google so. It's almost like telling them to ignore it and here is the page I want you to pay attention too. In essence, they aren't technically deindexing the page, many times they are simply ignoring it. That doesn't mean they won't index the page though.
Not sure why you would be trying to rank a page with this tag higher than a main page. That wouldn't really make sense. Can you elaborate?
kauhywka
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- Nov 20, 2014
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If the main source is not from my site
I do not want google Panda find my duplicate content
So, I can use duplicate content with rel="canonical" tag and this page will not be deindexed
Very interesting position, only for fun, is it possible to rank now MY page with duplicate content higher then the main
I do not want google Panda find my duplicate content
So, I can use duplicate content with rel="canonical" tag and this page will not be deindexed
Very interesting position, only for fun, is it possible to rank now MY page with duplicate content higher then the main
- Feb 27, 2009
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If the main source is not from my site
I do not want google Panda find my duplicate content
So, I can use duplicate content with rel="canonical" tag and this page will not be deindexed
Very interesting position, only for fun, is it possible to rank now MY page with duplicate content higher then the main
Only way to find out is to test, but I wouldn't add the rel="canonical" tag on that particular page. From everything I've tested and observed, if there are instances where content is duplicated, I usually see two ranking factors. One, the domain/page with the higher authority almost always wins out. Two, sometimes it's a matter of who get's indexed first.
I would highly suggest testing it out and posting your conclusion. That's the only way to really know.
Wiccanda
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- May 10, 2019
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I have a question regarding this. is it okay to canonicalize a product URL that consist of the same content, product and features but the only difference is the SKU and the product title
say for example, if you are selling pipes for plumbing... the main pipe product is PIPE-X
but there is a page where it says PIPE FOR COMMERCIAL PLUMBING SYSTEM where it represents PIPE-X product; same description, same pictures, same design of page... but just that page is stating PIPE-X is considered for commercial plumbing system.
is it okay to canonicalize that or not?
say for example, if you are selling pipes for plumbing... the main pipe product is PIPE-X
but there is a page where it says PIPE FOR COMMERCIAL PLUMBING SYSTEM where it represents PIPE-X product; same description, same pictures, same design of page... but just that page is stating PIPE-X is considered for commercial plumbing system.
is it okay to canonicalize that or not?
- Nov 23, 2020
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Rel=canonical won't deindex a page but signals to Google your preferred URL for similar content. It’s possible for a canonical page to rank higher if it's deemed more relevant or valuable to search queries. Always align with user intent for the best outcome.
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The answer is YES; however, Google may ignore canonical tag errors within a site or deindex the entire site. If there is any unique content on non-canonical pages, it will not be indexed. Therefore, ensure that any critical content from canonicalized pages is also present on the canonical page.
StripeFinance
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it should, but if it doesnt just delete the page
bitcoinStorage
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yes you can do that
there shoudn't be any issues