Did you put spinned articles in you PBN blogs network?

[xplosiv]

I think engagement of your PBN sites will start to become a major factor in the coming years. I know a lot of people are preaching that spun content still works as good, and I think that it does too - but how long will that last? Content is far more difficult to index now, and I think it's because G is dropping pages from the index that have little to no value.

I avoid this by creating PBN's with content from the old site as well as using original content. Frankly, I can crank out a half decent article making shit up as I go along... lol. But I see where people will have an issue if English isn't their first language. I would still recommend people to atleast think towards the future and try to come up with some decent content before G goes apeshit on PBNs. If they try to get rankbrain onto it, it simply won't be able to tell the difference between a real site and a site made just for laundering link juice.

 

[Lone Wolf]

I think engagement of your PBN sites will start to become a major factor in the coming years. I know a lot of people are preaching that spun content still works as good, and I think that it does too - but how long will that last? Content is far more difficult to index now, and I think it's because G is dropping pages from the index that have little to no value.

I avoid this by creating PBN's with content from the old site as well as using original content. Frankly, I can crank out a half decent article making shit up as I go along... lol. But I see where people will have an issue if English isn't their first language. I would still recommend people to atleast think towards the future and try to come up with some decent content before G goes apeshit on PBNs. If they try to get rankbrain onto it, it simply won't be able to tell the difference between a real site and a site made just for laundering link juice.

If you care that much about the site you want to point PBN links to maybe it's better not to use PBN links at all. I personally just care about my ROI and I don't really care what happens to my sites a few months/years down the road.

 

[xplosiv]

I care about ROI too, that's why I put in a little extra time to do it right the first time around. Saves money on domain and hosting, saves having to build the money sites over and over again, building authority, etc etc. It still works no doubt, but the bar gets raised higher every time Google decides to do a little housecleaning. The SERPs are still full of blackhat sites but I would rather sleep safe and sound lol

 

[Linkzo]

My suggestion don't use spuned articles,better use the quality content to be safe.

 

[BlackShield]

Original article that is without spun is best and safe for PBN sites. I am not sure that, if the google bot crawl articles like what plagiarism do, then it is better to use spun with more than 90% uniqueness. I think there is no defect cause to PBN site by Google with it.

 

[CallmeReaz]

I want to know Did you put spinned articles in you PBN blogs network? or you put original articles?

Nah, the most important thing with a PBN is security and being able to pass a manual review.

Spun content is an easy way to make a totally private PBN no more secure than buying links off a public BST.

 

[Luka19]

never spin content for tier 1 websites
just hire someone with decent writing skills.
PBN links are very valuable and priceless, so don't make it look spammy by spinned articles

 

[shimi]

Thank for all for sharing your thoughts! I know that we all use the spun for web2.0 so i have doubt about PBN service i want to make.

I will happy to hear your opinion:

I want to offer PBN network that up to 10 people can use every 1 PBN
Like every PBN will have 5-7 blog with different hosting etc... etc..

I have 2 ways, and i will happy to hear from you what you choose.

way 1
To give users to send spun articles + links from system that send all articles to all blogs
It will cost less and also less time - you take spun article - send 1 time and all articles will sended

way 2
To allow users send only original articles blogs
It will cost more, but it will be more secure...

way 3
Maybe to make above both ways and people choose which PBN network they prefer to be, because some people like PBN for sell links to others, so way 1 will help them to earn fast and easy... and some prefer the secure way that more expensive but not expensive as to build themself and use it alone.

Which way you think it best?

Thanks
Shimon

 

[mzonas]

I run 4 networks:

Network 1 - unreadable content, mass post, works great for churn and burn, launch jacks, tier 2 and even money sites (if done right). Requires replacement of a few domains every now and then.

Network 2 - unique and original content. I bought fresh domains, built tons of links and now they average at 25 TF. Very powerful, I use this for my money sites to rank for long term.

Network 3-4 - slightly spun content. I bought expired domains with CF/TF 15+. Works great, when posted to 20 blogs in one day, I usually see results within 2-3 days.

In my opinion, spun content/original content works well for different projects. If it's just churn and burn project, run as many links as you can with unreadable cotent, rank, make money, tank, rinse and repeat.

Unique and original content posts work best for me when I want to preserve long term rankings for my power money sites, official websites (where I sell services, for example).

Thanks, I hope it helps.

 

[shimi]

I run 4 networks:

Network 1 - unreadable content, mass post, works great for churn and burn, launch jacks, tier 2 and even money sites (if done right). Requires replacement of a few domains every now and then.

Network 2 - unique and original content. I bought fresh domains, built tons of links and now they average at 25 TF. Very powerful, I use this for my money sites to rank for long term.

Network 3-4 - slightly spun content. I bought expired domains with CF/TF 15+. Works great, when posted to 20 blogs in one day, I usually see results within 2-3 days.

In my opinion, spun content/original content works well for different projects. If it's just churn and burn project, run as many links as you can with unreadable cotent, rank, make money, tank, rinse and repeat.

Unique and original content posts work best for me when I want to preserve long term rankings for my power money sites, official websites (where I sell services, for example).

Thanks, I hope it helps.

I love this idea and method! Thank for share!

 

[mzonas]

I love this idea and method! Thank for share!

No problem. I am also slowly building my 5th network - a very niche based so I can dominate the niche and make lots of money ... in lucrative niche I will let you know how niche based networks compare to general ones (the 4 ones I already have) in terms of power and results.

 

[natethegreat7037]

Not use spun contents, i you need article then go content section and buy cheap articles.

 

[THUNDERELVI]

People posting shit here on this thread have never even done any testing of their own. If they did, they would know that spun content works perfectly fine AS LONG AS the spintax article generates completely readable articles with 90%+ uniqueness (between the articles). Such a very high quality spintax article cannot be done with any automated tool, it requires hours of manual tedious soul-crushing work, so you would outsource it of course. Here is the cost/benefit analysis for both approaches:

1) Unique articles - 3$ each min, readable and passes manual review. For a network consisting of 100 PBN-s, the cost will be $300 just to write 1 "money site" article (where you link to your sites). If you wanna leave your PBN-s with just these kind of posts and no other filler articles, then there are no more costs in this aspect.

However, you are completely vulnerable to a manual review, because a reviewer (and any 5-year old kid for that matter) will immediately flag your network (or whatever sites from the network that he found) within 5 minutes. Don't get me wrong, I have sites ranking with crappy PBN-s just like these and have also found other guys (lots of them) ranking with such low quality PBN-s for tons of keywords. All of us got lucky that we haven't been reviewed yet, but such PBN-s are timed bombs, that can never explode or explode someday in the near future.

Now, if you post other filler articles as well to reduce footprints, you would post at least an article per month per site. So, again for an 100-site network, you will have $300 extra cost per month. If you write articles every other month, the cost drops 2x to $150 per month. So, to recap, total cost is:

$300 for each money-site article you write!
$150/month min to maintain your sites!
These costs are calculated by keeping in mind that you can find decent writers to write readable articles for $3 each (~ 500 words). 99% of such writers that will take the bid for such low prices write like they learnt English yesterday, so most of the times, you will have to put in serious efforts to find the writers and you might also end up spending more money in the process of testing them.

2) HQ spun articles - to generate a spintax article that produces hundreds of different variations completely readable able to pass manual reviews AND with 90%+ uniqueness between the variations, you are looking at a cost of $70-100 per spintax article if you outsource it in the SEO forums' marketplaces. If you outsource it in-house, depending on where you live, the cost can go as low as $50 per article (I have managed to do this myself).

Now, this kind of spintax article can populate ALL of the sites in your network, so it will only cost you $100 (taking the upper bound) for 100 sites in the network. The more sites you have in the network, the lower the cost per site article is. Of course, there is a limit to how many variations you can produce without degrading the uniqueness level, but with a HUGE HQ spintax article, you are looking at hundreds of variations with no sweating at all.
To maintain the networks, the cost will be $100 per month if you write each month and $50 per month if you write every other month.

So, to recap, the total cost is:
$100 for each money-site article you write!
$50 min to maintain your sites!

As you can see, the total cost is AT LEAST 3x less if you use spun articles. The benefit is the same. You will sleep properly at night as well if you use proper spun readable & unique articles. The risk is the same in both approaches. So, why the fuck should you use "unique" garbage articles written by people who translate most of the words anyway?! The whole "content is king" & "use unique handwritten articles only for PBN-s/web 2.0-s" is yet another myth and misinformation in the world of SEO. If someone gives you this kind of shit propaganda again, direct them to this post and shut their mouth up!!!

 

[RedMango]

Been using spun content on PBNs and SER T1s for years. Never had a penalty and ranked a lot of sites and big keywords in doing so.

I used to be a writer and when comparing my writing to 'professional' writers theirs read horrendously. I've yet to see well-written, high quality T1s make any difference from numerous testing rather than the majority of people on this thread who just spew out what other people say or have read on 'guru forums'. Money sites, yes, because that's what customers see and you write professional sales copy to lure them in, funnel them into buying and drop their email address.

T1s -> don't bother it's all about the power of the link not the content that ranks a site. It needs to be relevant and unique by 90%+ but not really readable.

 

[SOCOM]

It's not just about Google finding the contents and getting it indexed, although it's a part of it. The main concern here is to build a PBN that's powerful enough to rank a website it's linking to. Publishing a spun article won't provide any value to the readers and search engines today are getting smarter at detecting crappy vs original contents. And, you might think you're PBN is not for people to read but solely for ranking purposes. You're half right, but the other half is wrong. You want something in your PBN to be somewhat useful and may not be as quality as a money site, but it should be shareable enough in social media and has a potential to become viral.

Yes, it requires work, but you'll end up with a PBN that is not just for ranking but money-generating, too.

Just my 2 cents based on my experience

Not saying using spun content is crap, but where is your evidence that search engines today can detect crappy content?

 

[THUNDERELVI]

Not saying using spun content is crap, but where is your evidence that search engines today can detect crappy content?

His evidence is based in the "content is king" clown crowd BS preach most probably.

 

[ferrywormer]

Original articles by all means.

 

[davids355]

Original content definitely best.

 

[iki]

Original content is better but not necessarily, i know some people who use Spun articles on very large networks without any problems for years. If pbn get detected its hard to pass manual review anyway and most likely will get penalty.

 

[lemon]

the time spent crafting high quality content for your PBN is significantly less than the time you'll have to spend rebuilding your PBN after it gets penalized.