SEO relevancy amplifiying method [GIVEAWAY]

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If I start a thread claiming if you "build exactly 57 links from one Tumblr page and no other links you'll shoot straight to rank 1!" all I should have is people getting on my dick for how great I am?

People are right to hold this up to scrutiny and while OP is under no obligation to show a domain a domain the only thing this really has going for it is wishful thinking.

Every SEO guide in here and everywhere else in the Internet is just theory and guidelines, even the most famous ones. No one has to prove anything, first of all because no one would reveal his own sites/niches, second of all, because they don't have to and third and most importantly, because they can't - no one knows how Google's algorithm works exactly, only the engineers working at Google do.

Everything we do is guessing, that's why people need to test shit for themselves before saying something doesn't work. So, for you to say that this is bullshit, it's a completely retarded thing to do. I would have threads like this everyday (even if the OP's claims are false) than threads like this one for example that preach Google propaganda, the idiotic claim "content is king" and "tips" that everyone in SEO has known since 2007. At least this thread sparks your creativity & gets you thinking and the OP is not selling anything (not yet at least)...

As always, take everything with a big grain of salt, but don't start flaming for no reason!
 
"the algorithm of Google has no differences from the algorithm of Yandex for the reference ranking." False

"You need a mix of informational and commercial sites otherwise you will be penalized." False
 
Everything we do is guessing, that's why people need to test shit for themselves before saying something doesn't work. So, for you to say that this is bullshit, it's a completely retarded thing to do. I would have threads like this everyday (even if the OP's claims are false) than threads like this one for example that preach Google propaganda, the idiotic claim "content is king" and "tips" that everyone in SEO has known since 2007. At least this thread sparks your creativity & gets you thinking and the OP is not selling anything (not yet at least)...

I absolutely agree successful SEO is all about testing. And if someone had posted this as an interesting theory on how Google would compensate sites linking out and the balance between trust and relevance I'd be down. But it's not theory crafting it's making some pretty big claims. Ok the guy posting "this is bullshit" wasn't adding value to the conversation but if I start telling people to buy domains and post photos of my junk for easy rankings you're going to leave me to it? If we didn't question information shared then this forum wouldn't be worth shit. If OP really is a big player in Russian SEO then no doubt skepticism from an SEO forum isn't a surprise.

I don't want to argue. I'm sure we both have better things to do. But it's not wrong to question SEO tactics whether they're charging for them or not.

I'm not lying when I said I'm one of the five leading specialists in Russian seo :)
I give you a lot of information for free. Appreciate it and not miss a moment to ask the important question.

The example domains you posted. You said one ranked first page for well drilling but SEMrush has nothing for historic rankings on Google.ru. If we assume that's just down to them not crawling .ru properly that still leaves one issue.

I checked the old caches of that site it hasn't changed. If I don't change a site for that long it might not hold a page 1 ranking but it won't fall out of the organic search entirely.

I'd expect a site which was ranking #1 for a competitive keyword to at least be in the top #100 with no changes so something doesn't add up there.

This isn't calling "this is bullshit" this is just a fact. It would not be normal for a site to slip completely out of the results on every page for not being updated.

If we ignore that and assume it's down a weird quirk in abusing this compensation then that still leaves the big important question in my head. The same one I mentioned before.

If this makes a link x10 more powerful. It's still just a link from a brand new domain. Even x10 that's not going to carry a lot of weight. I had a quick poke at the google.ru "make money online" SERPS and I'm yet to see a result which looks like this.
 
So with 10 transistors you'll have... giving > receiving > giving > receiving > giving .... > money site ?

Does this only work with domains or can you use web 2.0's like blogger, tumblr?

I have a strong feeling this is all bullshit but fuck it

No, that's wrong. You would have 10 pairs of 2 websites each, one giving and one receiving. All link to the website that you want to rank, site 3.

You can't use web 2.0's, I will explain later if someone asks again why exactly you can't use that.

maybe we could try this expired domains instead of new sites

That's not good as well, you see, expired domains rank higher because of the trust they've accumulated over time with traffic and because they might have links already. You need two websites to constantly race eachother to get more Google trust compensation.

You said the updates for yandex will most likely happen with google.

Does this mean you haven't actually tested it with google.

I did, but I never focused on Google. I indirectly tested it by seeing that I had more traffic from Google, which would it mean that it did rank on Google. On a pretty competitive niche.

Can u show the structure of the linking sites? And how this get boosted?

Linking sites? I don't understand which you mean. There are a lot of sites that link there in different ways. I've uploaded a photo.

What technology, this will have no value as long as you cannot show some evidences

Why don't you just try it, it will cost you pennies. Make a experiment or something like that, 2 sites, one gets 2 normal links that have no backlinks to them and the other gets 1 transistor link.

Been following the thread since you started it OP and I think all these are bullshit o_O If not, show us evidence. :confused: @mickyfu Bless this new guy using your heavenly words, who knows he might stop talking those transistor stuff :rolleyes:

Same as above.

People, wether you believe or not OP, he's sharing information that need to be though on. Everything he says makes sense and would explain a lot of things in the actual algorithm.

I still have one remaining question left unanswered : How do you link site 2 to site 3 (receiving to money site). Is it from homepage or subpages ?

Once i get back from holidays, I'll conduct testing.

Thanks, you link from the homepage only, because that's where site1 links to.

If you think it's bullshit, then leave the thread and don't follow it, no one is forcing you.
Thank you.

If I start a thread claiming if you "build exactly 57 links from one Tumblr page and no other links you'll shoot straight to rank 1!" all I should have is people getting on my dick for how great I am?

People are right to hold this up to scrutiny and while OP is under no obligation to show a domain a domain the only thing this really has going for it is wishful thinking.


Well this is my biggest issue with the concept.

OP mentioned you can't build other links because that would tell the search engine you no longer need the compensation (I'd quote it but I'm on a tiny laptop - scroll up though it's there). But I can't remember the last time I saw a keyword in a medium niche with one link from another new domain.

OP said the example site he posted there used to rank on Google.ru but only fell because it was outdated. I can accept it would fall off the page but I've had sites with no updates for longer than these two and if they fall they might slip a few positions or even pages but fall out of the serps entirely?

If anyone has an SEMrush guru account they scrape Google.ru if you stick the domains in there you won't see historic ranking data for them.

You can build links to site3, but if you build the links to transistors it will make them unstable. You then will get a chance that they will both lose all of their compensation from Google.
Also I never said that you can only rank with transistors, I want to tell you all that it's just more cost effective. And safer since you use less links.

the no links only applies to site 1 and site 2 so you receive the compensation? Or does it carry over to site 3

Yes, you can build links to site3.

Your points about receiving and giving structures are redundant, as every sub page of a site also links to many other pages on the same site, making them also a giving structure not a receiving structure.

That's the whole point, the first Google update, Google doesn't see that, because the the site2 that site1 linked to didn't give away all of it's trust and didn't get bonus trust. The second update it does and ranks higher than site1. Which then third update causes site1 to get also a compensation and rank higher than site2, which goes in a loop.

Nice OP.

I need a confirmation about this thread.

So, if we would like to test your technic, we need :
- fresh domain (site 1),
- fresh domain (site 2).

Content orientation :
Site 1 : Explaination on a single keyword niche
Site 2 : Commercial content on the same keyword niche (site 1).

Site 1 :
- Play with links (wikipedia & co.) ,
- No links on home page to articles ("stati" as you explained it),
- 8 articles with link to the home page,
- 1 link on the home page to the site 2 (optimized anchor).

Site 2 :
- Commercial content on home page,
- No link to the money site (for the moment),
- Links to the subpages autorized.

After many crawls by Google, your sites (1 & 2) are powerfull and you can link to your money site.
Is it right ?

Thanks for your reply OP :)

Yes that's right, however you do need a link to articles. An irellevant link to your articles page where all articles are listed and there links to articles. Each article then links to the homepage at it's title or in the tirst sentence with anchor to homepage of the keyword. You need as many articles that are related as the amount of keywords you're going to use.

"the algorithm of Google has no differences from the algorithm of Yandex for the reference ranking." False

"You need a mix of informational and commercial sites otherwise you will be penalized." False

Don't take my words in exact meaning. Let's say Vasya and Petya are both different boys, but both have a penis, why are you saying that one of them is a girl then without inspecting what's under the trousers? That's your answer on your first statement.

If two Mexicans are both selling a cactus, then one Mexican can't recommend buying a cactus from the other Mexican, can he? Otherwise why would he be standing there? Wasting martketplace square metres? He will get penalized. Of course if both of the websites have a huge spectrum of different keywords, then it won't make a difference. However the sites I am talking about using in a transistor need to be point-on-point exact in their keywords. Then it is a big difference and they will gey penalized. That's why one has to be commercial and the other informational.

I absolutely agree successful SEO is all about testing. And if someone had posted this as an interesting theory on how Google would compensate sites linking out and the balance between trust and relevance I'd be down. But it's not theory crafting it's making some pretty big claims. Ok the guy posting "this is bullshit" wasn't adding value to the conversation but if I start telling people to buy domains and post photos of my junk for easy rankings you're going to leave me to it? If we didn't question information shared then this forum wouldn't be worth shit. If OP really is a big player in Russian SEO then no doubt skepticism from an SEO forum isn't a surprise.

I don't want to argue. I'm sure we both have better things to do. But it's not wrong to question SEO tactics whether they're charging for them or not.



The example domains you posted. You said one ranked first page for well drilling but SEMrush has nothing for historic rankings on Google.ru. If we assume that's just down to them not crawling .ru properly that still leaves one issue.

I checked the old caches of that site it hasn't changed. If I don't change a site for that long it might not hold a page 1 ranking but it won't fall out of the organic search entirely.

I'd expect a site which was ranking #1 for a competitive keyword to at least be in the top #100 with no changes so something doesn't add up there.

This isn't calling "this is bullshit" this is just a fact. It would not be normal for a site to slip completely out of the results on every page for not being updated.

If we ignore that and assume it's down a weird quirk in abusing this compensation then that still leaves the big important question in my head. The same one I mentioned before.

If this makes a link x10 more powerful. It's still just a link from a brand new domain. Even x10 that's not going to carry a lot of weight. I had a quick poke at the google.ru "make money online" SERPS and I'm yet to see a result which looks like this.

Russian google has problems with geotargeting foreign keywords. Actually Google is horrible in other languages. That's why it doesn't see for which region the website was ranked for. Of course your website stayed there, as long as a website gets traffic, it will keep ranking.
 
You can't use web 2.0's, I will explain later if someone asks again why exactly you can't use that.

I would imagine for pretty much the same reason we can't use existing PBN domains. The point is a fresh site gets this compensation.

Russian google has problems with geotargeting foreign keywords. Actually Google is horrible in other languages. That's why it doesn't see for which region the website was ranked for. Of course your website stayed there, as long as a website gets traffic, it will keep ranking.

I was checking using Russian spellings and the cyrillic alphabet on Google.ru with a Russian proxy and getting Russian results. As (I'm assuming) was SEMrush neither see's the site at all.

That said I've some sites in a niche to setup anyway so giving this a try won't hurt.

So two fresh domains and setup site 1 and 2. I should see them ranking (site 2 more so than site 1 presumably?) and once they stabilize in the SERPS say after a few weeks/months I do the site 2 homepage link to my main money site 3 for a boost?
 
Compensastion trust is a legit thing,moz.com made tests for it and said once that it exists.There even exists an experiment about it https://www.rebootonline.com/blog/long-term-outgoing-link-experiment/

Everything seems to be logical, someone has to test this!

That involved testing outgoing links to other sites.

Unless I've missed something we don't link to external sites here do we? Site 1 is incoming links from articles from site 1 and site 2 is just linking to sub pages on site 2. The only link to an external site would be from site 1 to site 2 then eventually to site 3.
 
Yes that's right, however you do need a link to articles. An irellevant link to your articles page where all articles are listed and there links to articles. Each article then links to the homepage at it's title or in the tirst sentence with anchor to homepage of the keyword. You need as many articles that are related as the amount of keywords you're going to use.

Thx for your reply OP.
The last thing about site 2 (I would to test it with rights informations).

The second website is the inverse method of the first website with articles linked on the home page (poor anchors), right ?
Is the contents articles are relevant and should we use semantic as well too ?

Thx again for sharing, as you said, we must test it before judge this technic.
 
Thanks man! I've got only one question about one of my websites which was penalized by Google almost a year ago. Will this scheme help it to return to the 1st page? The website has 900 backlinks (from other niche websites, satellites, forums, sape links and a lot of others)? Thanks!
 
That involved testing outgoing links to other sites.

Unless I've missed something we don't link to external sites here do we? Site 1 is incoming links from articles from site 1 and site 2 is just linking to sub pages on site 2. The only link to an external site would be from site 1 to site 2 then eventually to site 3.

External sites or internal sites, it doesn't make a difference. You can pass on trust to your internal pages just like to external pages. Also site1 lisnks to site2, which would give it extra juice from Google one way or another. Anyway your test isn't logical. You need to test with controls!
 
Thanks man! I've got only one question about one of my websites which was penalized by Google almost a year ago. Will this scheme help it to return to the 1st page? The website has 900 backlinks (from other niche websites, satellites, forums, sape links and a lot of others)? Thanks!
first, we need to get rid of bad links
 
first, we need to get rid of bad links
Well I deleted some which on my opinion caused the penalty, but the situation didn't change a lot. What tools do you use for checking the quality of the back links?
 
Its funny, I haven't heard anyone use the term "semantic" in a while around here. I personally like the term, its a good descriptive term. Odd how words come and go. Now the popular term for on-site structures like this is siloing. This seems to be describing the same idea, but a bit more universally since its not just on-site.

-ThopHayt
 
Well I deleted some which on my opinion caused the penalty, but the situation didn't change a lot. What tools do you use for checking the quality of the back links?
I measure the weight of links in my service in the range 0-30000 unit weight. Links with a weight below zero=bad links. Anything above zero is a good Links. But for you it doesn't matter. my service does not measure the weight of English language links, today. We with a team of programmers have the plans to make the English version. Study is there a demand for it here.
 
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is there manual penalty in Yandex too? ... because I don't see those websites ranking in Yandex either
 
just one question you only need to say yes or no i was curious if you russian guys have a sure way of ranking on google, i mean an almost fail proof way with 90% chance of ranking any keyword in a short period of time.. lets say, 3 months.

Btw thanks for your time this thread has been very interesting!
 
is there manual penalty in Yandex too? ... because I don't see those websites ranking in Yandex either
http://joxi.ru/KAxbPqqCpXNym8
fresh screenshot

since its inception, the site content was not updated
creation date 28.07.2014
the main query "well drilling"
region Ryazan 600,000 residents
the website is a sham. He sells nothing. But sometimes generates leads :)

ThePortugueseDude
nonsense
 
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Dude, yandex and google are not even closely related they have completely different algos, it's like comparing bing to google. But hey, what do I know, I only make a living ranking sites on Google.
 
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