Amazon Niche Site Not in Top 300

[alanwalkerz]

You don't rank for any keywords in the top 300 for any page? Check on semrush and see if you have some rankings on google. You may also want to focus building good quality links with your exact anchors so you can get a ranking boost.

 

[zigzag]

From your explanation it seems like your keeping everything clean on the site, I've seen niche sites ranking with 10-20 amazon urls on a page.

Another possibility I can think of is that a competitor copied your content and put it on a domain that has more trust than yours (or your writer copied the content), have you checked copyscape yet for duplicate content? Other than that I can't think of anything else why your pages aren't in the top 300.

 

[bgp90]

How many per article? I try to keep mine around 5 per 1k words of text. Not counting sidebar links, etc. But I don't go crazy on those either.

I have around 15 urls in a 1500 word article

 

[michaelr1988]

Before you assume it's related to the number of affiliate links, did you consider that the kw density tweaking you did may of got you the results?

Some people will say it doesn't matter, but I've tried and tested it. I've over optimized many pages only for it to appear no where. Then worked on reducing it. Few days later in top 100. It's not a coincidence, has happened with multiple sites.

The people who say it doesn't matter probably have great variety in anchor text off page to counter a high on page density

 

[bgp90]

From your explanation it seems like your keeping everything clean on the site, I've seen niche sites ranking with 10-20 amazon urls on a page.

Another possibility I can think of is that a competitor copied your content and put it on a domain that has more trust than yours (or your writer copied the content), have you checked copyscape yet for duplicate content? Other than that I can't think of anything else why your pages aren't in the top 300.

No I haven't done that yet...but will do that to be sure that the content is not copied

 

[bgp90]

Before you assume it's related to the number of affiliate links, did you consider that the kw density tweaking you did may of got you the results?

Some people will say it doesn't matter, but I've tried and tested it. I've over optimized many pages only for it to appear no where. Then worked on reducing it. Few days later in top 100. It's not a coincidence, has happened with multiple sites.

The people who say it doesn't matter probably have great variety in anchor text off page to counter a high on page density

Well to be specific, I have modified 4 articles/pages on my site. I checked for one site the result, will check the results for the other ones later.

- 1 page with 1500 words and kw density of 4% + 15 aff urls -> removed all aff links. The next day this article is on position 36 in Google.

So removing aff links made sure that the page appeared in the Google results. But I'm also going to test something with the kw density

 

[T2tkid]

Well to be specific, I have modified 4 articles/pages on my site. I checked for one site the result, will check the results for the other ones later.

- 1 page with 1500 words and kw density of 4% + 15 aff urls -> removed all aff links. The next day this article is on position 36 in Google.

So removing aff links made sure that the page appeared in the Google results. But I'm also going to test something with the kw density

If removing Aff. Links enables you to start ranking on the top 40. Then know that you will need to hide the aff.links from google bots.
We have plugins like Link Ninja and elflinks etc.

 

[fc-dh]

Before you assume it's related to the number of affiliate links, did you consider that the kw density tweaking you did may of got you the results?

Some people will say it doesn't matter, but I've tried and tested it. I've over optimized many pages only for it to appear nowhere. Then worked on reducing it. Few days later in top 100. It's not a coincidence, has happened with multiple sites.

The people who say it doesn't matter probably have great variety in anchor text off page to counter a high on page density

Keyword density doesn't matter all that much, just look in the top 10 rankings for product + review and you will see many reviews with a high percentage density, and 1% density is not a red flag at all, mane of my sites have much more and rank for years, why do you people make everything so complicated for yourself, just because some asshole on one of the google mouthpieces told you so. Content is not such a bog ranking factor as it gets credited, it really isn't....

 

[bgp90]

Keyword density doesn't matter all that much, just look in the top 10 rankings for product + review and you will see many reviews with a high percentage density, and 1% density is not a red flag at all, mane of my sites have much more and rank for years, why do you people make everything so complicated for yourself, just because some asshole on one of the google mouthpieces told you so. Content is not such a bog ranking factor as it gets credited, it really isn't....

At this moment I really don't what I should do with my articles. Lower the kw density or just leave it as it is...

 

[bgp90]

Update

I just found out something remarkable...
For a page that wasn't in the top 300 I removed all the affiliate links and re-submitted the link to the index from Google via Google Webmaster Tools with "Fetch as Google". After 1 minute the page shows up on position 44 in Google!! I do not changed the kw density on that page.

So it looks like my affiliate links are the problem. However the high kw density on my site could also affect the rankings but in the first place I believe it has something to do with the affiliate links.
My plan is to remove the affiliate links from all the articles and leave them for a few days/weeks and add affiliate links after a while.

Not sure if this is the way to go...

 

[kids1412]

are your affiliate links nofollow? use a plugin like "no follow all external links" to nofollow all affiliate links as they suck up the link juice of your site.

 

[bgp90]

are your affiliate links nofollow? use a plugin like "no follow all external links" to nofollow all affiliate links as they suck up the link juice of your site.

Yes they are, I've used a plugin for that

 

[Lagenda]

Update

I just found out something remarkable...
For a page that wasn't in the top 300 I removed all the affiliate links and re-submitted the link to the index from Google via Google Webmaster Tools with "Fetch as Google". After 1 minute the page shows up on position 44 in Google!! I do not changed the kw density on that page.

So it looks like my affiliate links are the problem. However the high kw density on my site could also affect the rankings but in the first place I believe it has something to do with the affiliate links.
My plan is to remove the affiliate links from all the articles and leave them for a few days/weeks and add affiliate links after a while.

Not sure if this is the way to go...

i see so that is the reason why..hu3. thank for your update op..will never do this for my site anymore.

 

[bgp90]

i see so that is the reason why..hu3. thank for your update op..will never do this for my site anymore.

At least I think this is the problem, but I've heard from other people that they ranked sites with all the affiliate links included from the beginning.

 

[terrycody]

15 links for 1500 words are a bit too much, but its weird, because I myself see many niche sites ranked well with a ton of affiliate links in page 1. so dont take my words.

looks like it is really the link problem though at least for your case, and thanks op turned this thread to an educate post.


terry

 

[zigzag]

My plan is to remove the affiliate links from all the articles and leave them for a few days/weeks and add affiliate links after a while.

Not sure if this is the way to go...

This is what I would do and see if the pages start to rank. If the pages slip back down in rankings after adding back the affiliate links I would than restructure the article to have less affiliate links. I don't know why this is the case with your site, it just seems weird I see other sites with comparison tables that have 10+ affiliate links in the table alone, maybe site age plays a factor here.

 

[bgp90]

This is what I would do and see if the pages start to rank. If the pages slip back down in rankings after adding back the affiliate links I would than restructure the article to have less affiliate links. I don't know why this is the case with your site, it just seems weird I see other sites with comparison tables that have 10+ affiliate links in the table alone, maybe site age plays a factor here.

This is what I would do and see if the pages start to rank. If the pages slip back down in rankings after adding back the affiliate links I would than restructure the article to have less affiliate links. I don't know why this is the case with your site, it just seems weird I see other sites with comparison tables that have 10+ affiliate links in the table alone, maybe site age plays a factor here.

Well I'm not sure why I can't insert that many links but for now I'm leave them out. In a few days I will report back what is going on.

 

[bgp90]

update:

Ok, this website drives me crazy.
When I created the website, I installed two plugins: W3 Total Cache and Above the Fold optimization to improve the speed of my website. I was thinking that it really would help my website with the rankings.

Yesterday did some testing, disabled the above stated plugins and re-submitted a few pages of my site to Webmaster Tools. By disabling these plugins some of my keywords made a huge positive jump! Some keywords moved up to 40 positions. I still think this is pretty strange, I can see how Google thinks my website is too much optimized but I thought that caching always was a good thing!

A few days ago I was not ranking in the Top 300 and at this point I'm ranking for some keywords at position 20! However I still think that I should be ranking higher at this moment. Since most of the kw's are really low comp and I've build some decent backlinks. I keep continue testing...

 

[bgp90]

We are a few weeks futher and still there is some weird sh*t going on. I've managed to rank the site in the top 300, mostly with onpage seo adjustments and disabling some plugins. However at this point I see all the pages slip out of the top 300 again.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY! I've been building some GOOD web 2.0 links but for somehow Google hates my site and I'm not sure why.
For all the pages I've lowered the kw density but like most people say, kw density is not that important.

Anybody has an idea what the problem can be?

 

[SEO Sicko]

I think you can wait for a while because aged domains will get the better result although you have all good things on your site.