[Method] Make $1000 a Month With Amazon - Newbie Friendly [Phase 5a Published!]

[fc-dh]

Yes, i live outside usa. just use payoneer to receive payment from amazon. Later you could withdraw to your local bank account by requesting wire transfer from your payoneer account

Can you people just stop it YOU CANNOT USE PAYONEER IF YOU LIFE OUTSIDE THE US, the reason is that you need US tax info if you want to use the US bank account attached to your payoneer account, direct deposits is for US ONLY!!!!!!!

International Associates: Unfortunately, we are unable to offer Direct Deposit as a payment method for you, please choose payment by Check or by Gift Card. If you choose Payment by Check and your billing address is outside the United States, we will waive the $15 check fee.

https://affiliate-program.amazon.co...r=&pf_rd_t=501&pf_rd_p=&pf_rd_i=assoc_help_t3

You can't use a fake US address as you need tax info, i have tried the same thing because paper check is a pain in the ass, but even after contacting amazon there is nothing they can do, and of course, you can try to fake the tax info but do you really want to risk your account when they find out (and they will find out)


Deal with the paper check or find another affiliate program...

 

[srb888]

@ fc-dh,

You are right! I had my doubts when I read those "You can use Payoneer, whatever! " lol

I created a new Amazon aff account just a few hours ago, and you simply can't defy Amazon because you're providing them an address which is OUTSIDE USA. So Payoneer can't be an option for my new account to gather Amazon payments. period.

How these people living outside USA are using (read: abusing) Amazon and collecting their Amazon commissions in Payoneer is simply beyond me!

Only if they are able to explain how they are doing it, then only it will be useful information for people staying outside USA AND who give their true|actual living address to Amazon. Otherwise I would also suggest that members don't trust such posts where they say Payoneer can be used by non-US citizen IF address given to Amazon is the actual non-US residential address.

Or it is a case of simply suggesting a method which they could've just read somewhere on the net, BUT they have not actually implemented themselves.

Thanks again!

P.S.:
By giving my actual Tax info (my PAN details -- I'm an Indian tax -payer) I was able to proceed completing my Ama account. To use Payoneer, I would have to prove that I AM an AMERICAN citizen. How can I do that without fraud? lol. I mean, my site and account will be banned if I give a false address, and when the time comes to pay tax, I cannot provide the US tax details, and therefore my account gets closed, my successful website gets banned... I'll have to erase all the aff-codes on a site which is making me money? And also it means that I've to start everything all over again!!? Sh!t -- I will not play the fraud game which I'm certain to lose! lol

I can wait for 4-5 months to collect Amazon check, I can wait another 2-3 months to get the money in my bank too. If it gets lost in snail post, I will request Amazon to get me another... repeat process if this too gets lost! May be they will send me a bigger check because by that time, my sites have accumulated more commissions! And, I have other options to make money, so hell, why not show patience! May be those checks too will never get lost in transit!

PPS:
May be Amazon will selectively send a bank e-transfer, they too wouldn't want to lose a successful off-shore affiliate for the huge delays in payment! Everything can be worked out, but to make that happen, you need to be an exceptionally capable person/affiliate. Or else, keep the check route open... the check option has been working for their non-US affiliates for years, isn't it?


PPPS:
Amazon is not something like that famous articles submitting website (now closed or bought by Yahoo), where you earned about $600 with fraud details, and when the time came to give the US Tax details, you simply chose to abandon that account and opened another fraudulent account and carried with earning another $600 or so...
On this Amazon, the stakes are great, and when the time comes to give them US Tax info, you simply cannot abandon your site and account, and recreate the whole damn process... not worth (that fraud route). Btw I have a very old Payoneer account also, but I can't use it for the above (and also the following) PITA reasons.

Important:
And also, now Payoneer doesn't give you (us Indians) a "physical card" to get Payoneer money from any ATMs, all the international funds collected in them will get transferred to our local bank accounts immediately -- just like that fcking dude Paypal. Our government knows all the tricks of the trade and they have blocked those loopholes also. lol -- do you guys think PP had got jealous of Payoneer and backstabbed payo, and blew away that route that was making Payoneer more popular and effective than PP itself? Possible, yeh? 'coz, now the money-spinning Indian playing ground is completely leveled for both, and PP is gaining on payo... ok, jk there!

But btw, if you're at all abusing the Amazon system and using payoneer way, then payoneer will have to disclose where the Amazon money is flowing after getting funded by amazon affiliate payment system (because someone will complain to Amazon, and you know how sh!t it is in the US corporate world), and you'll not just lose your Ama acc, but also lose your payo account --

--- and Amazon has proved recently that they will even legally go after anybody who abuses its system (Fiverr case) to teach a lesson to everybody else. Fiverr never got burned, and payo too will not get burned -- it's the common man on the street, you and me -- will get shot because we are abusing it in whatever way.

Remember, Amazon has an office in India and they can send your actual local address a legal official mail anytime they wish to. Not worth taking that risk, so don't wear that fraudHat here. This father of the Goliath will never fall and we can never become that David also....

 

[ibmjango]

I can wait for 4-5 months to collect Amazon check, I can wait another 2-3 months to get the money in my bank too. If it gets lost in snail post, I will request Amazon to get me another... repeat process if this too gets lost! May be they will send me a bigger check because by that time, my sites have accumulated more commissions!

And, I have other options to make money, so hell, why not show patience! May be those checks too will never get lost in transit!

Want to share my own experience here...

see friend, you are right and i agree with your post too but practically there is one more situation where we will lost money ... consider amazon issued or reissued check for you, (In case they are not delivered or misplaced or for any reason its not reached to you), here you will request again for your payout and i can tell you amazon will reissue check again as far as your case is considerable..

so in this scenerio , you have pending payout from amazon which suppose to issued in next payout but before payout for any reason if amazon ban your account , that case will you get paid for your past payout ?

in other words your account is got banned before payout issued (even though your pending payout earned through legit ways )

I can tell you with experience they will not deal with any pending commission even if you had earned that commssion honestly...

so my point here is....having patience is not going to help in some cases...

even if you are ready to pay courier charges they will not issue any check through fedx or any other courier company.

once solution i found here is, if you have anyone overseas friend whom you could trust will recieve your payout at his address and then he will send it to you. (and note here i am not telling he will get paid in bank, i am just suggesting you will only use his mailing address.) this might be a working solution for indian friends..

 

[UptonGoodwin]

I live in America so I don't know any of the struggles you folks go through.

Having said that, I would bet that if you were a successful Amazon affiliate for 6-12 months and got into contact with the right people, they would be able to work with you in setting up a direct deposit. It's not that they CAN'T do a bank transfer to foreign affiliates, it's just that a large majority of they time they simply don't want to deal with it most of the time.

Also am I wrong in thinking that once you got going for a few months, you would still be getting a check every month?

 

[greyhats]

My god, these old member with high post count sure can be dumb. Do you know what payoneer is? Seriously can you use google to learn how it works?

search how to withdraw amazon using payoneer on google:
http://blog.payoneer.com/amazon-sellers-get-paid-with-payoneer/

someone from india using payoneer to receive ama, search on google "payoneer amazon india"
http://www.latestonnet.com/2015/10/02/receive-amazon-affiliates-earnings-via-payoneer/.html

I don't bother to prove my national identity card (not from US), amazon earning and successful withdrawal from amazon to payoneer. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Be ignorant forever.

 

[fc-dh]

My god, these old member with high post count sure can be dumb. Do you know what payoneer is? Seriously can you use google to learn how it works?

search how to withdraw amazon using payoneer on google:
http://blog.payoneer.com/amazon-sellers-get-paid-with-payoneer/

someone from india using payoneer to receive ama, search on google "payoneer amazon india"
http://www.latestonnet.com/2015/10/02/receive-amazon-affiliates-earnings-via-payoneer/.html

I don't bother to prove my national identity card (not from US), amazon earning and successful withdrawal from amazon to payoneer. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Be ignorant forever.

LOL calling people when you're fucking a moron yourself, this is for amazon SELLERS and NOT for amazon affiliates, as i said before i haver had contact with Amazon and your CANNOT use payoneer.

Here is the mail that i got from Amazon

Payee Name:
Dave

Comments:
I read on the internet that you guys have accepted Payoneer as a way to pay affiliates (instead of checks)

Is that also for people from the EU like me? I have tried t use the seller central thingie but i get no access, this is the post from payoneer

http://blog.payoneer.com/receive-usd-disbursements-from-amazon-to-your-payoneer-account/

Thanks

Dave

Amazon response

Amazon
Your Account Amazon.com
Message From Customer Service
Hello Dave,


Thank you for contacting the Amazon.com Associates team. I apologize for any misunderstanding or misinformation given by another website regarding the payment options we have.


Associates located outside the United States have the option of being paid by check or gift card. We can't make payments to international members by direct deposit or any other electronic method at the moment. I'm sorry if this presents any inconvenience to you.


Both payment options, whether check or gift card, are denominated in U.S. dollars. If you select check as your payment method, we'll send payment after your earnings balance reaches $100. The check will be mailed to the payee address on file for your account. We don't charge a $15 check processing fee for check payments sent to Associates outside the U.S.


If you elect to be paid by gift card, the claim code is sent to your e-mail address for you to redeem. There is a $10 minimum for gift card payments. Gift card payments from the Amazon Associates Program can be redeemed on Amazon.com or MYHABIT.com. Gift card payments will be sent to you from the e-mail address [email protected]; you may want to add this to your Safe Senders List or address book to ensure that it's not blocked from your e-mail inbox.


You can change your payment method for your Associates account here:


https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/network/your-account/payment-...


After you update the account, you'll receive an e-mail notification that your update was successful.


If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact again. It's easy to contact Customer Service by phone, e-mail, or chat through our Contact Us page:


http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/contact


We hope to see you again soon.


We'd appreciate your feedback. Please use the links below to tell us about your experience today.


Best regards,
Alexander S.

We done now?

 

[thanhclix]

People outside of US can withdraw money to Payoneer. Search for US Payment Service.

 

[fc-dh]

People outside of US can withdraw money to Payoneer. Search for US Payment Service.

Have you been reading the post at all, you can't....

 

[beingink]

OMFG! I can't believe so many people who might not even be making money with Amazon are cribbing about payments. Sure the initial check comes in after 2 months but after that you are receiving a check monthly.

WTF is wrong with you people getting into payoneer and stuff, The amount of dedication that you have for finding excuses why don't you setup a site and see if you can even make money to get a cheque for.

 

[3bisu]

There's a short little book on copywriting by a guy named Neville Medhora, it's called "This Book Will Teach You to Write Better". It's actually the same material he has on his pretty successful Kopywriting Kourse.

Anyway, the book is great. Short and sweet and full of immediately actionable advice. As a non-native English speaker this book has helped me tremendously, and now I actually make a nice chunk of change freelancing on upwork. I highly recommend it for IMers who need to write quick and effective copy, and not necessarily spend months reading Joseph Sugarman and Gary Halbert etc. because they want to be career copywriters.

You can pick up the kindle version for $4 on Amazon.

If anyone want this ebook send me a pm, i will post it in the download section

 

[greyhats]

@fc-dh i'm withdrawing as affiliate from outside US, filling my real name and address on payoneer and amazon. Dunno why it doesn't work for you. Good luck believing their support, maybe they answer using template and doesn't even know what payoneer is.

read this thread:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...associates-check-europe-when-does-arrive.html

or this post from europe:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ffiliate-journey-post8162018.html#post8162018

Payoneer IS IN THE US, It's like you have a bank in the US so you other company like clickbank or amazon can send you money via direct deposit. If you believe you can't withdraw it using payoneer then do it via check, or join another affiliate program.

 

[Deleted member 923340]

Thanks for taking time to write this. This is my 100th post

I have a suggestion - So we are keeping track of all the questions we answer right? Most forums allow to edit posts. So may be after 2 - 3 weeks later we can edit every post (may be not every post) and add a link. This will not bump the thread. But this helps when some other find this thread( through google / by searching forum / someone else bumping the forum )

just my 0.02$

Deleted member 923340

 

[WhitePassion]

Estonian citizen living in Thailand, USA Amazon Associates and Payoneer. Working fine for 3-4 years already, tax forms filled out honestly and taxes paid

 

[greyhats]

Estonian citizen living in Thailand, USA Amazon Associates and Payoneer. Working fine for 3-4 years already, tax forms filled out honestly and taxes paid

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Finally a smart old member with high post count. I still don't get why some people can't do it though. Fill the tax application, register payoneer, request direct deposit on amazon, fill the bank info that payoneer give. I even gave link to blog post on how to do it, full guide with image..maybe some people need video to fully understand the guide.

 

[thanhclix]

Estonian citizen living in Thailand, USA Amazon Associates and Payoneer. Working fine for 3-4 years already, tax forms filled out honestly and taxes paid

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Same. I live in Vietnam.

 

[UptonGoodwin]

Cool. Got my first 5 forum accounts created across 4 forums. Also made a handful of posts in a few different areas as well. Made sure to post in other sections on the forums that aren't in my micro niche to seem natural

I have only dropped 1 link to my money site so far.

 

[brucewayne90]

Can you people just stop it YOU CANNOT USE PAYONEER IF YOU LIFE OUTSIDE THE US, the reason is that you need US tax info if you want to use the US bank account attached to your payoneer account, direct deposits is for US ONLY!!!!!!!



https://affiliate-program.amazon.co...r=&pf_rd_t=501&pf_rd_p=&pf_rd_i=assoc_help_t3

You can't use a fake US address as you need tax info, i have tried the same thing because paper check is a pain in the ass, but even after contacting amazon there is nothing they can do, and of course, you can try to fake the tax info but do you really want to risk your account when they find out (and they will find out)


Deal with the paper check or find another affiliate program...

I have been an amazon affiliate for 2 years and have been using payoneer to receive my payments without any issues. And no I don't live in the US and I even use my real address. Just fill out the Amazon tax information accordingly.

 

[janeeth20]

fc-dh, i think you are too stiff. you try to follow whatever amazon staff told you to. amazon staff email to you looks very diplomatic to me. It is clearly a template answer. as long as other members can withdraw to payoneer for years and still able to, there's clearly no problem.

 

[fc-dh]

Please see the following two images to see in which Amazon Department Blu-Ray stands:

See the top line in Fig 1, it says "Electronics", and also see the left-hand-side menu where the relation is clear: Blu-Ray Players fall under the Electronics Department. So...
Fig 1:

Fig 2:

So you see, for getting the Amazon advertising fees (commission, in short) the department is Electronics Products. The second image shows you that the Electronics Department products will get you only 4% commission on each item from that department you're able to "sell"!

And...
Being a Fixed Rate Advertising Fee product category, even if you sell 3,200 BluRay players in any one month, you'll ONLY get a fixed 4% commission on those confirmed sales, and not the 8.5% commission rate as the numbers (3,200 units sold) should give you for the general category products.

P.S.:
The number of items you sell from such Fixed List category will be counted along with other General category products where you get commission according to the following table in Fig 3. But, every Fixed Rate type item will get only the Fixed rate of commission attached to its department and that total will be added to the other sub total of the commission you will get for selling the General category products (volume-based commission rate as mentioned in the following image, Fig 3):

Image: Fig 3:

for better explanation, please read this:

"2. Calculation of Advertising Fees" in this link:
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/help/operating/advertisingfees

I would like to add this page that was given me by support when i wanted to promote some outdoor gear that had electronics in them

https://services.amazon.com/service...m/ref=pe_584750_33951330_asus_soa_snav_cat_t3

Although it is for sellers it gives you an idea on what is and what isn't electronics.

 

[janeeth20]

anyway just want to add something. as someone living in SE Asia, check payment is the worst you can get. I got my check from adsense awhile ago and I really hate all the fees and all the waiting. first of all, banks in where I live will always charge around $35-45 (depends on which bank) for the check processing. they need to send the check back to the check issuer, which is always a bank in the united states. Thus, they need us, as the recipient, to pay these fees upfront. Not to mention all the fees from amazon/google itself. If amazon check processing fee is $15, it means you will lose $50-60 per check before you can even see any money in your bank account. Imagine if you receive check every month, that means you lose up to $720 a year just for check processing.

the worst part is the waiting part. You have to wait 3-5 weeks for the check to arrive. If Amazon sends february payment by late april, it means you might receive your check by late may/early june. For check processing by your bank, it's going to need another 3 weeks. Using february payment example, you can only see the money in your bank account by late june. This scenario will only happen IF there's no problem at all during check shipment from amazon to your home. Considering they cannot send with fedex/ups and only with snail mail, there's a chance the check might lost somewhere. This happen multiple times with a lot of affiliates/adsense publishers.

I think it's much wiser to use payoneer than check. By papers it might be not allowed but I don't mind as long as I can get away with it.