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Ste, I placed an order earlier today
#148
Cheers

Nice one dude :)

Well then show me those keywords:P Peasant package ordered

FFS dude, spend more next time please.

Ordered bronze package. Last 4 digits ending in 643B.

Nice one

Ordered a silver package. Transaction ID: 05563Y

Yeah you did

Ordered platinum package because I'm not a cunt

ahhh look at this classy fella!
 
Are these keywords only for Amazon?

I am looking for easy keywords for adsense.
 
Are these keywords only for Amazon?

I am looking for easy keywords for adsense.

I'm working on adsense KW's.

When we get this nailed it will be posted as a separate BST :) Lot's of people have requested these, I am just experimenting with the best way to gather them so it works for me $$$$ wise, and it works for you with a good ROI.
 
Plot twist: Ste Fishkin is in fact Rand Fishkin himself... that's right... the owner of Moz.

Looking forward to the Adsense KW's as well Rand, but will surely try an Amazon one in the near future.
 
I'm working on adsense KW's.

When we get this nailed it will be posted as a separate BST :) Lot's of people have requested these, I am just experimenting with the best way to gather them so it works for me $$$$ wise, and it works for you with a good ROI.

I will wait for these and hope to get them for a good price.
I know how much in depth you know SEO, so I am also looking for your guide on this.
 
Review
Great keyword & report, delivered in less than 24hrs !
Excellent sales page copy backed by a solid service, not many like these nowadays.
 
Placed order for silver.
Order No: 152
Partial transaction ID: 71W366xxx

This better be good!
 
Review
Great keyword & report, delivered in less than 24hrs !
Excellent sales page copy backed by a solid service, not many like these nowadays.

Fucking right, next time buy a fucking platinum though son.

Placed order for silver.
Order No: 152
Partial transaction ID: 71W366xxx

This better be good!

It will be good.

I will wait for these and hope to get them for a good price.
I know how much in depth you know SEO, so I am also looking for your guide on this.

I know fuck all about SEO, I troll here and sell keywords. Fuck off.

Plot twist: Ste Fishkin is in fact Rand Fishkin himself... that's right... the owner of Moz.

Looking forward to the Adsense KW's as well Rand, but will surely try an Amazon one in the near future.

You have been watching too much discovery channel.
 
Review by a Peasant:

I scraped together some sheckles and got the "Peasant Package" to see what all the fuss was about.

Also, I wanted to see how my own KW research fared against a paid service.

In short, after analyzing it for a few days I was blown away. The KW itself is indistiguishable from other low LTs on the program I use. He also explains the differences in his approach to that used by KW programs. This is actually great because it means that someone using such a tool won't stumble on it by accident (which is one of the reservations I had going in). It also made sense.

The KW was an Amazon keyword and the product was > $100

Over the course of a day or so I have found 5/6 related keywords to make category pages with so now I have an outline of a site.

In short, if I had the money I'd buy more.
 
Bought the Filthy Peasant Package (tm). 921D

It is my first purchase on MHW while also causing me to make my first post.

Hopefully someday I will be able to join the Glorious SEO Master Race (tm).
 
Can we start buying platinums instead of bronze guys, I have seen an AMG C63 that I need in my life.
 
Review from a real buyer of the "PLATINUM PACKAGE"

When i spend $499 to receive a "word", that word better be exactly what i expect.
He was meant to provide a keyword with ZERO competition "They are very, very, very low competition, everything you want in an easy to rank for keyword is there.".

Or as he puts it :
  • Very little to no links built on any competitors on page 1
  • Irrelevant pages showing for some keywords
  • Poorly optimised websites on page 1
  • No competition from people like us.

Here are the results https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=a4fEVt2qMdHOcv3Ml1g&gws_rd=ssl,cr&fg=1#q=golf+club+sets

Literally 100% of page 1 are huge companies that turn over $100m+. And are ranking purely on their domain authority alone because they are such large companies. Every single site on page 1 has a page fully dedicated to this keyword which contradicts "Irrelevant pages showing for some keywords" and "Poorly optimised websites on page 1" you can even go as far as page 2 -3 and see there are huge companies with the keyword exactly in there Title Tag trying to target this keyword here is a example of Ebay! FUCKING EBAY!!. Who are on page 2 targeting this keyword directly (http://screencast.com/t/FaoSkGhyERfj). Now lets go to page 3 you can see that even KMART are targeting this keyword directly and are on page http://i.imgur.com/igCyCY7.png) yet he still considers this to be ULTRA LOW COMPETITION and worth the $499.

The only truth from this scam of a sales thread (from my experience) is "No competition from people like us." thats right because there all fucking billion dollar companies. I bought this package to simply test it out and if it was any good purchase all remaining kws and just get my VA's to create me a easy $20-30k a month accross 20-30 websites. But no instead i got delivered horse shit.

I am only writing this review due to the fact that Ste said "he will make a example of me" seriously me? (http://screencast.com/t/sYIBJtCst) There is far more to life than forum posts, infact i consider the higher the forum post count, the more time you are not earning serious money.

WHAT CONFIRMS THE FACT THAT "STE" HUGHES ACTUALLY KNOWS FUCK ALL ABOUT CHECKING A KEYWORD COMPETITION?

http://screencast.com/t/GQa5rCOBOE9s


I asked what the competiveness of the keyword on page 2 was like and he said you shouldn't judge a keyword on its page 2 competiveness only for link building??? SERIOUSLY, ill leave it at that. But true seo guys know what im talking about.

For those who say "oh he just ordered so he could get a keyword then chargeback," if that was the case would i really give the keyword (the $499 keyword) out here for free. Regardless if i get a refund or not this is for principle, if everyone can learn what type of a product this "scammer" is delivering at my expense, so be it! I can afford it.

If he delivered this to someone with ZERO experience in SEO they may have been happy as they have 0 clue what to look out for.

***mod edit: link to report removed***
 
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I purchased a keyword from from this thread and am very satisfied (as are others).

However, I can see that there's an issue to resolve here. I'm not sure making PM's public is the way to go though.

Also, I was going to post about the yellow / red posting from three different members. I can't even work out how to change the font / colour back after I've cut and pasted something into a reply....
 
Just quoting this, seems relevant.

Ordered platinum package because I'm not a cunt

Opening notes:
  • Not every keyword I sell can be my best
  • I accept now the keyword is not truly low comp, we offered to replace this keyword several times.
  • My software threw this out as an anomaly, I have altered our competition algorithm to fix this and run all other harvested keywords through again to make sure they pass the newer tests
  • Processes have been put in place to avoid this happening again
  • 142 orders, only this guy has complained.

We offered to replace the keyword. I have put 8 hours of my life into resolving this.

From my side I feel we have done everything we can. It's my hunch that Mason is buying this on behalf of someone else with the intention of upsetting this sales thread, and the only person I think it could be is Nanexo as I have been sending him PM's to wind him up.

Totally coincidently, he's popped up here liking all the negative bullshit going on.

It's almost like a guy who has a lot of micro-workers with new accounts has set this up as an assassination attempt.

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Mason,

I find your review to be very annoying. I am rather miffed by your actions and from start to finish you really have acted like a bit of a fool from where I stand. Now lets look at both sides of the story, I have no issue with you sharing parts of the argument, but lets look at the whole picture before people throw their arms in the air.

No seller takes this more seriously than me. You really have spoilt my weekend by posting this as well as wasting my fucking time with all the nonsense leading up to this.

Lets take a look at a full timeline of events. I give the admin full permission to jump in here and read pm's to verify everything I say. I am going to post this in a totally neutral manor.

16th of Feb - 5:17pm
Link Rocket absolutely bought a platinum keyword. $499 paid in paypal, no problem.

16th of Feb - 10:22pm

Keyword was delivered by email.
Proof: https://gyazo.com/85d8814d4a0ca7dc2a9cdd066998ac2d

Just a note on keyword delivery, I do not personally do this. I work 9am - 6pm 6 days a week running an ecommerce store. I do not have the time to do this so keyword reports, delivery and first tier customer support is handled by an assistant. They do a fantastic job and they are an SEO, they take the keyword from the software acceptance list, check prices on amazon then package them. When we sell one, it's sent. Now look at the times we have sent these messages, we work fucking hard and long hours to deliver these keywords to people ASAP. We are developing an automated system, but for the time being delivery is manageable.

16th of Feb - 10:49pm
Mason raises an issue with the keyword, a whole 27 minutes after delivery... Awesome.
Proof: https://gyazo.com/e92e2c5da4f10bb930f76216826ac7ff

17th of Feb - 06:51am

Link Rocket makes a PayPal claim. We raised his issue at 10:49pm and makes a claim at 06:51am... We have had no opportunity to fix this or even look into the issue.

A man needs his beauty sleep.

17th of Feb - 3:06pm
At this point my assitant was unaware of the PayPal claim, I was made aware Mason was not happy immediately, but my assistant Did we abuse him, did we tell him he's wrong, did we tell him to fuck off... No. We replied with this:
https://gyazo.com/516ccfa40640026e131557f30007b74b

No bullshit, no problem, straight to the point. I take customer care very seriously, I'd much rather lose a sale than rip someone off (unlike some). Check this thread for proof of that... I've told at least 1 noob not to buy this as they will learn more with other products.

17th of Feb - 3:36pm
I noticed the PayPal claim was raised and I was stressed with work. My reply was a little short, I'll admit that but we no opportunity to resolve this and I felt that was unreasonable.
https://gyazo.com/3f9c036ee0c45ec9958e140eb33edfbf

And now all posts are directly by PM between me and mason, and seeing how he has published PM's I take it that he accepts it's ok to publish these too.

From me to Mason:

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

We have just got an alert from PayPal that you have filed a dispute.

We obviously are very surprised by this, you describe the product we sold you as not as described?

Mistakes can happen, we are human and we were halfway through investigating your issue when we got this alert.

All we ask for is a chance to fix this. I'm sure you understand this?

I've checked the keyword you were sent and I cannot see anything immediately obvious as to what would make you unhappy. It meets all the criteria we set as a low comp keyword.

However, if we do find that this is an attempt to grab a free keyword from us a shit list thread will be posted. The keyword will be given out for free to everyone to see and I'm almost certain you will have nothing to gain from your shenanigans. I'm pretty sure this is a ban-able offence also.

I'm sure you replied back with the best of intentions, we asked for some time to investigate this and you appear to have given us no time at all which is disappointing on our side of things.

Can you please let us know what you want to resolve this situation? I'm sure we can both clear this mess up with what we both want.

Thanks

Ste

Again, it's a copy of the last email we sent. I wanted this resolved, I felt like it was best for everyone.

Here is masons reply:
LinkRocket said:
Hi Ste,

I submitted this paypal dispute before receiving your email.

I am happy for you to try and fix this its not about the money but more about the principle as i pointed out in the paypal dispute, however if the keyword you provide is of similar quality to this one please just issue a refund.
If you consider this keyword to be ok and thinking i am doing this for a free keyword then i will start the shit thread my self outing the keyword.


Thanks

Mason

Again, a repeat of his response by email. I wanted to include that so it made sense.

My reply, could I honestly be more fair here?

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

I will accept the keyword is slightly higher comp than our typical keywords but I will stand by the fact it meets the criteria we published in our BST :) You have not bought something that is sub standard but I'm willing to be fair here.

All our keywords are found by algorithms and software, anomalies happen. We check all keywords by hand before they are sent out, I can see why the team sent this. JL's are very very low, only 4 on the front page have the title tag, competition metric is also low and PA is low, but could be lower... I'm going to have to defend my guys on this one. I see both sides and I'm just being fair.

We will get another platinum keyword, I will personally select this for you. I will blur the keyword out and send you the metrics later on tonight.

If you are happy, close the dispute and you will get the keyword. Are these terms acceptable with you? :)

Thanks

Ste

Masons reply, which I thought at this point would mean he was receptive for a solution which made me happy:

LinkRocket said:
Hi Ste

I would gladly close the paypal dispute as long as the keyword you next provide has the following conditions:

  1. Non-relevant pages on page 1 (as specified in your sales thread which got me interested)
  2. Minimal amount of people with the keyword in their title tag on page 1
  3. And ofcourse the right amount of monthly searches that matches up to what i ordered originally.



Thanks

Mason

I then have bent over fucking backwards for Mason here, this is not what I advertise, what I intended to offer, not what I should have done looking back...

I offered him the choice of 3 keywords, did the research, doubled checked it and wrote a short summary on each keyword.

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

Take a look at 3 options for you:

1. 22,200 searches per month - https://gyazo.com/6693e999b1d44bf4df761f063ffe5199

Keyword is 2 words, 1 word is on all 10 results on the first page. 2nd word is not anywhere on the first page meaning the exact keyword is not mentioned anywhere. The total number of links for page 1 is 16. Very low comp, product value of $300+ on amazon

2. 12,100 searches per month - https://gyazo.com/a016aadde3b8279f602c3ed897032d4d

Again, a 2 word keyword. First word is mentioned 0 times, 2nd word is mentioned 7 times. A grand total of 16 links for those on page 1 also. There is a site ranking with a PA of 1 and 0 internal links, and 0 external links... this should prove to your its low comp.

3. 22,200 searches per month - https://gyazo.com/80aa157ef91947c91f6a79f4e319beda

keyword mentioned exactly just once, broadly twice. The rest are semi relevant but not exactly what the user would be looking for. Guy at #1 does not have the keyword in the title, and has just 15 links build.

4. 14,800 searches per month - https://gyazo.com/cee1063fd5fb34af0549491724ef8618

keyword mentioned exactly just once, the rest are broad or not quite relevant. $200 amazon product

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I feel like I have gone above and beyond here.

Hope one of these satisfies you :)

Ste

Masons reply was asking for me to do the same for page 2 for the keyword he liked...

Note: I do not understand this... if page 1 is low comp then why the fuck is page 2 going to be high comp? My software analyses page 1 for a reason, only page 1 is relevant. If this passes standards then page 2 will also pass standard, or the results on page 2 would be on page 1. Tell me if I am wrong, but has anyone ever found a keyword looked great on page 1, but they turned it down when they looked at page 2?

LinkRocket said:
Keyword #1

What is the second page like ?

Thanks

Mason

At this point I am still hoping to turn a unhappy customer into a happy one... waste of time.

Ste Fishkin said:
I will look into it soon, I'm tied up right now.

But if those sites are on page 1, page 2 is weaker by definition. For link building opportunities I absolutely understand analysing these lower pages, but not for competition.

Leave it with me anyway. :)

At this point Mason has been online a number of times, but never replied. I sent him this to find out where we are:

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

I noticed you have been online but you have not been replying.

Can we find out where we are with this please? :)

I don't care about the $500, I've done $20,000 in 2 weeks on cash grab keywords. I care about keeping customers happy.

Let me know what you want to do, lets get it sorted and lets move on :)

Ste

Mason replies:

LinkRocket said:
Hi,

Sorry its just that i did'nt like you reply in terms of "checking page 2 for competiveness". When i start in a niche i check page 1,2,3,4,5 and then assign suitable links for the competiveness. In all fairness i have never targeted a low competition keyword and your BST had a great sales page and i thought i could make a easy $1-3k a month in 1-7 days from one of the Platinum keywords. But from what i can see and read with your arguments that you actually don't understand what a ultra low comp keyword is.

And money, this really isnt about money i earn the $499 before i have even woke up. its about principle as i said. Speak to any of the top sellers here such as nanexo/thesam/the other dude selling the domain stacking, i am some of there top customers when i like a product but with yours i was severly disapointed.

Cheers

Mason

I would like to just point out the bit here: "i thought i could make a easy $1-3k a month in 1-7 days from one of the Platinum keywords"

Suddenly I realised I was dealing with someone that isn't living in the real world.

And I'd also like to point this out, again it must just be a coincidence: "Speak to any of the top sellers here such as nanexo"

This is when all the dots started to connect in my head.

My reply:

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

In the real world you are not going to make $1000-$3000 a month in 7 days from IM. It just does not happen, these keywords should absolutely be making that sort of money but it will not happen in a week.

I'm well aware of my low comp keywords, I know fully what they are. My product has had fantastic reviews from Netmoney1, t0mmy, Leith and many more buyers. Read the thread dude, not 1 bad review.

I've bent over backwards to help you, what more can we do?

How can I resolve this issue for you?

Ste

Again, I have asked how we can resolve this.

All this is true, read my reviews. The only people given review copies were Netmoney1, t0mmy and skyrocket SEO. (and another maybe, I cannot remember who)

Reviews from people like Sherbert Hoover and Leith were completely from honest buyers who know what the fuck they are doing.

But here's his reply, accusing me of faking reviews. I invite anyone who has left a review to be honest, were you bribed or asked to falsify anything in your review, or was this an honest opinion of my product?

LinkRocket said:
Hi Ste

I don't usually do low comp keyword. I can rank for true low comp keywords in under 2 days and have proved it numerous times even as soon as last week.

I got informed that all the reviews are from your close friends and comrade when speaking to another seller that I use for diversity.

Obviously no no one has ordered the platinum package and successfully ranked.

Thanks

mason

Now he can rank pages in 2 days..... and he told me no method to resolve this, he is causing issues with no intention of solving the problem at hand now.

And I want to point out right now:
"I got informed that all the reviews are from your close friends and comrade when speaking to another seller that I use for diversity. "

Now I'm again going to connect the dots here, I knew he meant nanexo. Please see this PM I sent to nanexo last night, check the time stamp:
5Xgzoyd


Call me pewep, I must be magic.

My reply:
Ste Fishkin said:
Are you accusing me of fake reviews

Short and simple.

His reply:
LinkRocket said:
Not fake but you friends leaving better reviews then the product delivered.

At this point I was staying late after working having a few drinks with my boss, my replys get short as I was on a mobile.

Ste Fishkin said:
This is a waste of my time now. What is it you want?

I know fully well whats happening now, I can't prove it.

LinkRocket said:
Same,

Call it a refund and you can watch the serps of that kw you gave me for the next 10 years and you will not see an "affiliate" site pop up, as im not attempting it.

Cheers
Mason

Now I will admit I fucked up here, under the influence of 5 cans of magners I thought he said "watch the serps, I will rank this in 10 days. You will see my affiliate site pop up so I appologise for this. This is why the next reply does not make sense.

Ste Fishkin said:
Mason,

You can't have a refund and the product.

If you can rank a site in 10 days then can you explain how this is not a low comp keyword?

Thanks

And his reply to my confused reply:

LinkRocket said:
Ste,

Unfortunately i believe you have 0 clue what a low comp keyword is, especially the fact that you dont check page 2 for competiveness are you serious??? You sound like a web designer not a "seo'er".

You was bragging abut 2 hours ago how $499 is nothing compared to the supposed $20k you have took in orders in the past 2 weeks, which i do not believe as i cannot believe anyone would leave a postive review about this.

I have escalated this claim to paypal and i will proceed to start a shit thread posting the keyword which then makes my "product" completely invalid.

I said i can rank a low comp kw in 10 days and like i have said multiple times this is not a low comp keyword.

Thanks but no thanks

Mason

My reply:

Ste Fishkin said:
You're getting a refund in 1 hour, then I'm making an example of you.

By example, I meant a lounge thread making fun of his claims that he can rank in 2 days and wanted to make $3000 a month within 7 days. I had no intention of naming him

Masons reply...

LinkRocket said:
You make a example of me, hahaha. God you guys live on your forum post count, forum post counts & shitty products aint gonna buy you a AMG.

I will make a example of you!

Cheers

Mason

Mason then sent this, he seems happy with his work.

LinkRocket said:
Checkmate!

Closing notes: I hold my hands up, this keyword should not have been sent.

I explained this, I offered to replace it, I have him multiple choices to pick his own replacement and he refused.

I bent over backwards to resolve this, within 24 hours we accepted the keyword was not right and that we were going to replace it.

What more could I honestly have done?

If you feel this kid is correct, don't buy my shit.

If you feel I have been fair here and offered to replace his keyword and gone way further than I had too, buy it. I still believe in the product and in all honesty I do not give a fuck if people buy these or not. I will keep them for myself.

They are a product I believe in wholeheartedly. Mistakes happen in business, this is the 2nd keyword we have offered to replace but it's all a learning curve, its my first business which is anything like this, it's the first BST I've ever started. I've done my best, I'm human, I'll accept it if we make a mistake and work hard to resolve the issue.

What more can you do as a seller than that?

PayPal also advise us not to refund on digital goods such as this. (https://gyazo.com/a569f833fad43aab895e7cb959df2398)

We will speak to paypal before refunding you Mason, sorry for the delay my good friend. I intend to get this done ASAP but I am not risking issues on my account to help you after all this though.

I'm also requesting a mod takes a look at all these new accounts. Very strange that they all type using similar language and highlight in the same colours... Again though, coincidence right?
 
Thread re-opened. LinkRocket has been banned for multiple accounts and posting a malware infected link in his original post which he edited out. Have seen proof that the seller refunded him yesterday before the thread was closed however, as he bought the service, his review is valid and will stay on the thread along with Ste's reply. Infractions/warnings given to seller and other uninvolved members for abuse, trolling and hijacking the sales threads.
 
I guess we should move away from the drama yesterday produced, but I just want to add that I in no way know Ste personally(or even online, really) and the keyword I received was stellar. My review in this thread was 100% genuine. It just looks like the keyword posted in this thread was fired out by mistake and does not represent the quality of a lot of other keywords sent out.
 
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