Network better then CPAgrip?

[nightmarez]

As the majority here seem to have done, I would recommend examining CPALead.

It seems that they have quite a bit of positive momentum as of late and has dedicated themselves to making a lot of improvements. Their new social features alone make them a target for me. That is quite the contrast to a network that sits by idly with little change or adaptation so I would recommend taking a look. @Aatrox, from the last post before mine, that in fact is not the case and my understanding is that issue was long resolved and included a lot of misunderstanding. In the spirit of this thread which aims to be current, I would recommend getting up to speed on any network before discussing or assessing them. I digress on said matter though.

Yet, to the OP, you haven't quite narrowed in on your specific promotional methods. I only assume you are running incentive since you referenced CPAGrip and expressed that they have declined and performed poorly in recent months. It's quite possible that your methods do not align to incentive locking networks at all. In such a case, there are a slew of other display or no incentive based networks that are worthy of further exploration. Perhaps you might share some insight?

edit**at OP my intention is not to request that you divulge the very specifics or your niche. Rather a better outline of what you are doing as it may fit with others.

 

[Stiletto]

But I think adworkmedia don't allows i blackhat niches (hacks,movies etc)
Does anything know something different?

I used AWM lockers for fake movies site. They paid me every single cent. Over 5K in couple of months.

 

[BHW-News]

Don't call out sellers or promote competitors here. If you've got an issue with a seller, it needs to be posted in the shitlist forum.

 

[Roja89]

Don't call out sellers or promote competitors here. If you've got an issue with a seller, it needs to be posted in the shitlist forum.

Not calling out any sellers here or promoting a sellers competitor promise. I dont think any networks here are in the sellers market anyhow but maybe adgate and cpalead...wont say anything bad about them, have nothing bad to say

@OP

IMHO avoid CPAgrip like the plague. I'm not going to bash but state out what my experiences are. I've personally seen and taken screenshots of some very bad earnings shouted by a few users. Not a ton of data sure but thats how it went. Worse then I saw those same results removed from chat but was told it had to do with the day rolling over so consider that as you will. I also found them to have extremely poor customer service, my experience. Not lazy but not helpful and pretty rude and conflictive. Lots of people have said good things in the past on their AM though and lots say very poor but you rarely hear of other networks with a polarizing AM that gets love and hate like that. Luke @ Peerfly is a good example. Good AM never a bad thing about him.

Better, IMHO, alternatives depend on you and your traffic but this would be a list to try out right now

Adscend - always good and solid with some really good offers
CleanFiles - recently much better
CPALead - always good and much improved lately
MaxBounty or Peerfly depending on what you run but lots of good offers

There are plenty of fish in the sea in CPA. No network should be able to drop performance and not lose out for it. Too much competition and its a good thing imho. Go with a network thats on top of their game.

 

[JohnWCPAGrip]

SNIP

Hi Roja, nice to see you are still up to your old tricks:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/cpa/793311-corrupt-forum-helping-cpagrip-silence-people.html

I wish you tons of success wherever you do find yourself on your marketing campaigns but you have already been proven to launch fake smear campaigns and have had previous threads shut down on this forum for spreading propaganda and lies. To date, you have never shared your identity with me and I have no reason to believe you have ever worked with CPAGrip. That said, there's one thing we can agree on here -

There are a lot of great CPA networks out there, you're absolutely right. We're always working hard for our members and working on improving our platform. The companies you mentioned are definitely the more established organizations -- whereas CPAGrip is a newer platform and it's still under heavy development. More on our planned updates soon.

That said, I wish you well. All networks have their ups and downs, but we're constantly working hard on improving your experience at CPAGrip.

Best wishes to you in your campaigns,

John

I also found it interesting that the administrators locked this thread and then unlocked it so that you could post your review, but that's a different conversation for a different time I suppose.

 

[newyorker77]

How easy is it to get accepted into these networks? Like Peerfly and adworkmedia?

 

[Deleted member 657006]

What the best for servay please?

and best for ppi please?

 

[Roja89]

Hi Roja, nice to see you are still up to your old tricks:http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...upt-forum-helping-cpagrip-silence-people.htmlI wish you tons of success wherever you do find yourself on your marketing campaigns but you have already been proven to launch fake smear campaigns [/I]

I'd rather not get into a hijack with you but ive supported myself. But I do see 44444 thanking you. He also is sending me harassing PM's and trolling other threads. I'll gladly send you a PM with my identity and it lines up entirely with that thread you called a smear campaign. I won't get into anything else since I respect the threads I participate in which is why I created one to address my other issues. I'll let that all stand and I will send you a PM with my publisher ID and date of sign up etc. That's what this thread is about, opinions that are supported. I quoted my experience and said its just my experience but thats what it was. Lets leave it at that and I also wish you the best in life

 

[Roja89]

How easy is it to get accepted into these networks? Like Peerfly and adworkmedia?

Good question. Every network is different. MaxBounty is maybe the hardest if you consider a phone call hard but its well worth it for a lot of people since they have some offers you wont see anywhere else. Not to say they're the best but they have really unique offers which might be why they are really touchy on who they accept. The PPD networks are a bit easier to get into but I dont think theres anyone you can just give an email address to anymore if that's what you're looking for.

 

[JohnWCPAGrip]

I'll gladly send you a PM with my identity and it lines up entirely with that thread you called a smear campaign. I won't get into anything else since I respect the threads I participate in which is why I created one to address my other issues. I'll let that all stand and I will send you a PM with my publisher ID and date of sign up etc. That's what this thread is about, opinions that are supported.

Hi Roja,

The account you referenced to me has 0 lifetime clicks and has logged in a grand total of two times in the history of your account. Can you please explain how the account you're claiming to base your experience off of has 0 lifetime clicks and has never even logged into CPAGrip except for 2 times? If you've tried our network, I would have assumed you drove traffic here. Shouldn't you try a network before you tell an entire community of people to avoid them - like the plague -? I'll let the people at BHW draw their own conclusions with that (in combination with your post history).

Though, I am a bit confused because you claim you've tried us in the other thread...

I think there's little left to discuss considering you've never tried our network.

Best to all,
J

 

[Roja89]

Hi Roja,I think there's little left to discuss considering you've never tried our network.J

I think your strategy is too hijack this thread and keep the argument going then complain that its off topic to get it shut down because a lot of people are calling out your network. That's what happened in the last thread and I think thats not at all what bhw is here for.

I'll keep it simple for you. Your trying to manipulate bhw like you are my words. Here's a screenshot from the other thread http://i.imgur.com/gibQDng.png I actually say that I never sent traffic. I say that I logged in and saw a lot of poor results. If you check the timestamps of when I did login, seeing as how you can view them, you can check your chat and a lot of people had clicks but shouted $0 earnings. That's 100% true. But it sounds better if you tell people I said something different. So here's the thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...orum-helping-cpagrip-silence-people.htmlAgain, I think its a blatant attempt to get this thread shut down when this is an open discussion and a valid one among bhw members on networks. Its not favorable to CPAGrip in your eyes, even though some people are promoting you, some aren't but that's not my fault John. You can't be upset at everyone here, its an open form and opinions weigh against your network on this one. If you would like to continue, let's do it off of this thread. Otherwise, there's a history here. The Elites thread got shut down, the last thread here on bhw got shut it seems and you're angling to kindle a fire so you can complain or have some friends complain.

You also sent me a PM and I'll reply. We can take it up there like gentlemen or use whatever language we want between one another. The only additional comments I'll make in this thread are those which pertain to discussing alternatives as the title suggests. Kindly do the same instead of trying to hijack it so you can request it be closed and silence everyone here so they can't express their opinions since you don't like them.

 

[JohnWCPAGrip]

Hi Roja,

I think you missed the point - which was that you've never tried CPAGrip in your life. Not once, not a single click. Call me old fashioned, but generally if you discourage people from trying something, you should at least be familiar with the service you are not recommending. Would you agree? We want people to have an accurate depiction of the promotional options they have available to them and you are not offering an informed opinion.

I think accusing me of trying to obfuscate the argument is unfair. Your posts in this thread was similarly not on topic - which was to discuss alternatives. 90% of your post was telling people to avoid us like the plague, without ever having tried to use the network. I think everyone should try to split-test different networks to decide where they see the best performance. I'm reasonable and I want what's best for people. I understand different networks will work better or worse for different people's traffic. I think CPAGrip's network performance speaks for it's self. This is just, quite simply, you admitting that you are offering an uninformed opinion. That's fine, but I think it's important to be clear that you have never used our network in your life so that people know to take it with a grain of salt.

Again, I'll leave it to others to decide.

Good luck with your campaigns.

 

[444444]

IMHO avoid CPAgrip like the plague.

Adscend - always good and solid with some really good offers
CleanFiles - recently much better
CPALead - always good and much improved lately
MaxBounty or Peerfly depending on what you run but lots of good offers

You are encouraging CPALead and CleanFiles a lot recently both which are owned by the same company which is known not to have good relations with CPAGrip (by their choice). I had nothing but good experiences with CPAGrip - on time payments, good payouts, great performance and support - something which I CANNOT say about CPALead and CleanFiles.

 

[Peter Ngo]

I think your strategy is too hijack this thread and keep the argument going then complain that its off topic to get it shut down because a lot of people are calling out your network. That's what happened in the last thread and I think thats not at all what bhw is here for.

I'll keep it simple for you. Your trying to manipulate bhw like you are my words. Here's a screenshot from the other thread http://i.imgur.com/gibQDng.png I actually say that I never sent traffic. I say that I logged in and saw a lot of poor results. If you check the timestamps of when I did login, seeing as how you can view them, you can check your chat and a lot of people had clicks but shouted $0 earnings. That's 100% true. But it sounds better if you tell people I said something different. So here's the thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...orum-helping-cpagrip-silence-people.htmlAgain, I think its a blatant attempt to get this thread shut down when this is an open discussion and a valid one among bhw members on networks. Its not favorable to CPAGrip in your eyes, even though some people are promoting you, some aren't but that's not my fault John. You can't be upset at everyone here, its an open form and opinions weigh against your network on this one. If you would like to continue, let's do it off of this thread. Otherwise, there's a history here. The Elites thread got shut down, the last thread here on bhw got shut it seems and you're angling to kindle a fire so you can complain or have some friends complain.

You also sent me a PM and I'll reply. We can take it up there like gentlemen or use whatever language we want between one another. The only additional comments I'll make in this thread are those which pertain to discussing alternatives as the title suggests. Kindly do the same instead of trying to hijack it so you can request it be closed and silence everyone here so they can't express their opinions since you don't like them.

You are being very unreasonable, you said avoid CPAGrip like plague because when you logged into CPAGRIP and see people shouted 0$ earning (day refresh)? Come on dude :|.

I understand your thread in cpaelites.com get deleted, but come on be a man and get over it.

 

[Roja89]

I asked that this thread be respected and not hijacked. Its not favorable to CPAGrip and now the owner John and a lot of people are coming in to flood it with off topic remarks so that it can get closed down. I even said this was gonna happen earlier since its a tactic. Take the thread off topic, make some claims about other networks to maybe get them into this thread arguing and turn it into a pissing contest then goat me on to keep it all hijacked and finally, get the admins to close it because its off topic. 4444 has PM'd me and wants to goat me into it, same with John who's PM'd me. It goes on and on until the its like oh look, the thread that doesnt look good for CPAGrip is closed and falls off cause no one can post about it. Buried. Sorry guys, I'm not biting so that you can have this thread closed out. The OP and anyone has the right to post this thread. Please respect it and me. Enough with the PM's attacking me too.

@OP those are my recommendations, look around for what other people suggest as alternatives and decide for yourself. I'll let CPAGrip's conduct on this thread and their supporters speak for itself and everyone can decide as they want to.I'm not furthering the off topic stuff so there isnt any reason they should add to it other than an obvious attempt to close out a thread they don't like aka silence it. Watch out for new accounts now...

@OP Better, IMHO, alternatives depend on you and your traffic but this would be a list to try out right now

Adscend - always good and solid with some really good offers
CleanFiles - recently much better
CPALead - always good and much improved lately
MaxBounty or Peerfly depending on what you run but lots of good offers. Both have been rated #1 for CPA but not incentive.
Maxbounty took #1 recently

 

[RafaViQ]

@OP did your bad days on CPAGrip keep coming? If they did, let us know which network you have tried that gave you better results.
Anyways, I can vouch for CPAGrip. I have been there for a while now, earned around 5k so far.
The convertion rate is usually between 5% and 10% for me with SEO, but I believe that mostly depends on your traffic and the offers you got activated, now, I can't say it is the best CPA network out there since I haven't tried more than 2 or 3 but it's a pretty solid network.
At the end of the day it's your decision anyways to pick one network but don't stop yourself from trying a network just because some people say it's awful. It's is better to give it a try and see for yourself.

Here are some screenshots of the affiliates earnings, including mine:

 

[RedOctobre]

+1 for CPALead, worth testing.

Red

 

[nightmarez]

@OP

This is not aimed squarely at you, but rather the vast majority of members who continue to open up discussions about network performance and whether they should remain in place or seek out a new network. I commend the exploration of viable alternatives if you are not satisfied. I certainly do. Yet, it strikes me as so very odd that we rarely see a post that includes promotional information. I dare not ask for your specific methods but I believe it would allow for the rest of us to provide better feedback if we knew whether you were running incentive or non incentive traffic. In fact, such a determination would narrow down the number of possible networks by a large percentage.

Please do let us know. I can only assume that you are running incentive only since you expressed disappointment with perceived poor performance at CPAgrip and that is an incentive network. This would rule out MaxBounty and many others. Is this the case OP?

 

[LieDetector2015]

You are encouraging CPALead and CleanFiles a lot recently both which are owned by the same company which is known not to have good relations with CPAGrip (by their choice). I had nothing but good experiences with CPAGrip - on time payments, good payouts, great performance and support - something which I CANNOT say about CPALead and CleanFiles.

That's because this is either the owner of CPA Lead or someone that works for them, once again up to their old tricks. Why do you think that network was banned, only reason they are on here now is because of money as well. CPA Lead has been pulling this shady review sh#t for many years, thus why BWH banned them, IMHO it's disgusting that they are allowed to come back on here and continue to pull this bullsh#t!

I'd also like to add.. I may be new on here but I've been around since this forum started, I have seen this going on now for years, also, why the HECK is nobody doing anything about it, the fact that the dude above from Grip pointed out that this user Roja89 was clearly lying, should 100% justify a ban!

 

[nuf-ced]

OK - lets be very clear here - we allow marketplace members on due to their services and offerings. From Newbies to Enterprise - you break our rules you get removed.

The professionalism of a marketplace service can be observed by how they act when they are being asked the hard questions. We leave these comments up so people can see how they may be dealt with by the service owners / their representatives.

If you want to go willy wave there are other forums that would love to have you. You're just not adult enough yet to engage on BHW.