I love sape / I hate sape, google tanked me again...

[karasu1995]

Ok so maybe im noob in this but isn't too early to get tanked by google?
I decided to give a try with sape on another niche and guess what? I was penalized in 2 weeks, come on ,what the hell, thats way too early ?

I only bought 60 backlinks, 10 good / 50 spammy .ru with manipulated metrics and shit backlinks but thats not the main issue (this wasnt even a churn & burn campaign).
There's something awkard going on and i dont understand how come other people manage to avoid algoritmic penalty

What is the main issue? my anchor profile? my .ru backlinks and foregn country? the fact that i buy ua.org and all kind of domain extensions? Or is because sometimes i GOOGLE SUBMIT the links ,maybe google submit 5 links in 1 minute ,tanks the website later ,who knows. or perhaps because i used the same webhost ip as the other previous tanked domain.

I dont know what could be the problem
As for the anchor profile, i tryed 25% main kw ,8% 2nd kw ,8% 3rd kw ,8% 4th kw, 5% 5th kw,8% naked ,the rest is just partial match. My other competitor has same anchor profile and bought sape links but he didnt get tanked and he have 100 sape links...

Maybe just bad luck again?... but i dont think so
Whats ur opinion, what im doing wrong, what should i avoid

Should i avoid backlinks with health/adult/gambling and what other is considered negative seo?
Should i avoid .ru backlinks and foreign websites this time?
Should i build my anchor profile different this time? or should i try again like that
Should i not google submit again and let the links crawl naturally ?
Should i stop buying cheap sape links just because of their metrics? and look for quality links with quality backlinks to them as well ?

Damn...

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

There are way too many variables to be able to say what your particular issue is but I'm not thrilled with your anchor text ratios as you shared above.

I would also venture a guess that you put in your back link profile an unhealthy mixture of links as well as you want a structure that is not overly laden with any particular type of link and as much variety as makes sense for your site.

But really, those are generalities (and only off site) that I'm sharing and for you to really know what works you will probably have to can this project, start another one, and change your ranking method some to see what works for your niche.

 

[rob1977]

Why did you do the spammy links and not just stick to the good ones? Or did you pay somebody to do it and that's what you got?

 

[rob1977]

Just re read your post. Jees Louise calm down....

Your going nuts. Take it slow learn your craft, and once you have found a technique that builds your rank then think about reinforcing it with quality sape (not just firing any old bollocks at it just to say you have sape)

 

[archon10]

Those Googlers are pretty damn good. Excellent job Google.

 

[UptonGoodwin]

Don't buy shitty links if you don't want to get burned. If you know the link is spammy, you better believe google knows it's a pure spam link.

 

[karasu1995]

What about backlinks which have 30k external links but 30 referring
Should i avoid them also ?

Or backlinks with 1 single good backlink to them and the rest is just spam

And i buy sape links my self, i dont put anyone else to do it.

Also should i focus on cf/tf for more ranking authority? or pa/da

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And the reason i buy spammy links is because they work and they are so cheap, like few cents comparing to 1-2$ backlinks with nearly same authority but not spammy

 

[vitarank]

Why purchase links you know that are not safe and point it to your money site (I assume so since you mentioned this isnt a churn and burn campaign) ? If anything, what you have here is a learning curve, you now know what doesnt work.

 

[karasu1995]

Should i point these spammy sape links to web 2.0 then? or 2-3 pbn sites?
Will this filter and avoid algorithmic penalty ?

I cant afford to spend 1-3$ for each good backlink. i might as well start buy pbn links instead since they are in my control and have 1 obl... and i pay just 9 bucks

 

[asap1]

Dont buy shitty links that cost less than $1.

You are much better off with 10 high quality 30+ TF homepage $1-$3 /month links then 50+ shitty spammy links.

You keep a low profile and your chances of getting caught are 5x less since you have 5x less links pointing to you.

 

[myfault]

Use buffer shield to avoid such type of penalities.

 

[nahid133]

What is buffer shield ? as he mentioned above is it wise to point sape in web 2.0 ?

 

[fc-dh]

Use a good domain with a decent TF +25 and 301 it to the target, it is really that simple

 

[karasu1995]

But pointing sape to 2.0 is going to dilute of 70% juice from what i know (i dont know the exact percentage but is like sharing juice from 1 external link vs 301 redirect and is clearly big difference)

Use a good domain with a decent TF +25 and 301 it to the target, it is really that simple

But we are talking about sape now not pbn's. Redirecting pbn's to 2.0 sounds like a good idea though, maybe thats why i see competitors with no backlinks who are ranking in top.

 

[xrfanatic]

Op, there's something that has triggered an algorithm which decided to push your site away in serps and it has nothing to do with bad or good luck.

-Compare how old is your domain and the competition you tried to replicate
-Ask yoursefl whether it looks natural to submit all the backlinks to google submit url in short period of time.

I'm not going to list all the possibilities, but if your website tanked just create another and change your strategy, what I found to be working is to making the seo process the way search engines do not know what's your intention, think a bit more in terms of anchors and content of the backlinking site. Let search engines "decide on their own" what your website is about, do not point them obstrusivly on which term should it rank and on which it should not.

 

[karasu1995]

Then what about buying 5 quality sape backlinks to money site (And then pointing 30 sape average links to each of the them ,30x5) will that increase relevance and juice + avoid penalty ? Seems easier this way then "and cheaper because 2.0 have no age or authority and as for pbn, you wont find pbn with good metrics at 9$".

As for the anchor profile, i really dont know how i should buid it, i am sure that using sape for anchor diversification is worst idea ever. just tryed and nothing came good of it. Should i spam blog links with nofollow for anchor diversification to the money site? (like 1000 blog links nofollow or do=follow, dont know exactly) and then buy exact match sape links?

 

[davids355]

Isnt 25% main keyword a bit high anyway?

 

[karasu1995]

Isnt 25% main keyword a bit high anyway?

Yes thats why i have asked a question about how i should build my anchor profile before using sape links so i can limit my main kw to 5-10% or around that. Partial match didnt had the results i wished for, i'd rather rank 1-2 main kws and these 1-2 kws will impact most of longtails ranking as well but i dont know how to build safe links for diversification, is complicated kinda...

 

[fc-dh]

But pointing sape to 2.0 is going to dilute of 70% juice from what i know (i dont know the exact percentage but is like sharing juice from 1 external link vs 301 redirect and is clearly big difference)


But we are talking about sape now not pbn's. Redirecting pbn's to 2.0 sounds like a good idea though, maybe thats why i see competitors with no backlinks who are ranking in top.

Who is talking about PBN here, read what i wrote before you go all high and mighty

 

[karasu1995]

Who is talking about PBN here, read what i wrote before you go all high and mighty

if was high and mighty i wouldnt call my self noob and i wouldnt be posting here/asking for help.

"Use a good domain with a decent TF +25 and 301 it to the target, it is really that simple"

Sorry i dont understand your question then, i thought you were talking about pbn's since i cant think of any other type of domain that you can 301..