petirthunder -

[jazzc]

The kid is young and I don't want to ban him from the site forever if there can be a way to make amends. We all made mistakes as kids so I want to give him a second chance. Obviously, he won't be allowed to have a BST any more or promote his services (which anyway is not allowed if you don't have a BST) plus I will extend that to his signature.

So jimbodmit, can you make a list of things that you want him to do that would make him "pay" for the damage he made to you?

 

[jimbodmit]

But jazzc, if he realises his mistake, why is he still doing the following after apologising:

1. Continuing the campaign on Instagram? This very minute, it's still going.
2. Referring to the campaign as an experiment after he admitted it's not?

I promise you my stance doesn't come from me wanting revenge or punishment.

Just, how can I trust him? Honestly, how can YOU trust him? You saw his apology, and you can see him continuing with the same thing he apologised for as if nothing. Please re-read my posts carefully. He might be a kid, but he's laughing at us.

Seriously, if you can reasonably convince me I'm wrong to think that, I'll listen.

 

[jazzc]

Just, how can I trust him? Honestly, how can YOU trust him?

I don't have to trust him, I can ban him whenever necessary. If he misbehaves, he's gone.

 

[jimbodmit]

I 100% understand that, but my point is that he's apologised but hasn't stopped misbehaving... forget the other rules he's broken that I've pointed out...

He hasn't stopped the campaign he admitted he was only running to mess with me. His last post on Instagram was 15 minutes ago as I type this. So he's not sorry at all. On what basis do I extend a path to make amends if he isn't showing any remorse whatsoever?

His service worked for me. I'm totally gutted about what happened... and I see it as a big loss for both me and him. "What a waste", that's what I said. I'd like to say we could work together, him and I. But how can I trust him to run another campaign of mine? What use is it to me if he gets banned if he repeats the same thing? I teach him how to monetise his skill, only to be screwed over again? Can't you see the position he's put me in? He's literally shown no remorse at all...

Jazzc we can talk about this on skype if you want, if you think I'm being off here.

 

[jazzc]

I 100% understand that, but my point is that he's apologised but hasn't stopped misbehaving...

He hasn't stopped the campaign he admitted he was only running to mess with me

Well, put that too on the list of the things you want him to do.

His service worked for me. I'm totally gutted about what happened... and I see it as a big loss for both me and him. "What a waste", that's what I said. I'd like to say we could work together, him and I. But how can I trust him to run another campaign of mine? What use is it to me if he gets banned if he repeats the same thing? I teach him how to monetise his skill, only to be screwed over again? Can't you see the position he's put me in? He's literally shown no remorse at all...

No, I don't think it's wise to trust him with another campaign.

 

[jazzc]

@perithunder

I've removed your post. We are past the bitching stage, we are not going to do circles here. We have established by your own admission that you've been at fault - end of story.

 

[jimbodmit]

I need to post this, because I don't accept looking like the unreasonable guy who's out for blood.

We all make mistakes as kid, but the seller is not a kid. He has his own office, a brick and mortar business in a mall, a wife... he's a capable lad and although young, he's definitely old enough to know better. Just because he typed the word "sorry", doesn't mean he actually is sorry. When I threw a stone at my neighbour's window as a child, and was given a chance, I didn't continue throwing stones at his window after apologising.

I've spoken to him extensively over the last month, and tried to be a friend and a big brother figure to him already during all the times he let me down as a service provider... to such an extent that at one point he even asked me to do his customer service, when all his customers were complaining on his thread, but I declined.

There's nothing he can do to make amends... not because I'm stubborn, but because the situation he created doesn't allow for it. There's honestly nothing I can think of that he can do to make up for it. I could have opened a SL a long time ago... I only did it after he spat in my face when I gave him many chances already. Even if I could think of something, he'd be banned within a week, believe me. I have no idea what he said in the post jazzc deleted, but there you go, case in point.

I created this SL after the last straw, not the first. I have nothing more to add to this thread.

 

[jazzc]

Petirthunder has by his own admission stolen the campaign of a client and knowingly caused damage to him. After getting some information in private that I do not deem appropriate to write here, I am convinced that there is no way for him to "make good" of the situation to the OP and so my original intent of looking into the possibility of making amends does not stand.

Member perm-banned.

 

[jphawaii22]

How do we get refunds?

Is the service still working for you? Any luck with getting a refund?

 

[Ohboyj]

Is the service still working for you? Any luck with getting a refund?

He is avoiding meand many other customers. I have opened a claim with paypal and called my credit card company. Apparently many people have flagged his paypal address.

 

[jphawaii22]

He is avoiding meand many other customers. I have opened a claim with paypal and called my credit card company. Apparently many people have flagged his paypal address.

Appreciate the response. I have opened a claim with PayPal as well.

Are you guys aware of any other reputable vendors that offer a similar service that he was? I noticed IGGViral, but their likes don't appear to come from the followers, so the engagement quality is different.

 

[charbel]

I had warned you guys about him 2 months ago VIA shitlist and you let him go.

 

[The Blackhat Guy]

I'm sorry for everyone, but you won't get your money back guys.


[3:00:13 AM] me: "He is avoiding meand many other customers. I have opened a claim with paypal and called my credit card company. Apparently many people have flagged his paypal address. "
[3:00:15 AM] me: fuck man
[3:00:22 AM] me: u really scammed a lot of people there :|
[3:00:39 AM] Homeless King: ?
[3:00:42 AM] Homeless King: where is that
[3:01:37 AM] Homeless King: i think mod knew the risk
[3:01:46 AM] Homeless King: ban me = letting me go from the responsibilities
[3:02:49 AM] me: on your shitlist
[3:02:57 AM] Homeless King: im unfollowing everything
[3:03:07 AM] me: who cares about mods man...
[3:03:09 AM] Homeless King: like i said on the sl
[3:03:10 AM] Homeless King: ...
[3:03:11 AM] me: u scammed good people
[3:03:14 AM] me: dont you feel bad?
[3:03:17 AM] Homeless King: no i did not
[3:04:11 AM] me: that's bad very bad
[3:04:17 AM] Homeless King: fuck you i never scam
[3:04:28 AM] me: not me bro
[3:04:31 AM] me: but your customers...
[3:04:41 AM] Homeless King: i dont have customers
[3:04:51 AM] me: but you had
[3:04:53 AM] me: they paid for 1 year
[3:04:55 AM] me:
[3:04:56 AM] Homeless King: my bst doesnt even exist
[3:05:05 AM] me: lol
[3:10:08 AM] Homeless King: fuck bhw im IP banned
[3:10:20 AM] me: u deserve that
[3:10:20 AM] me: lol
[3:10:22 AM] Homeless King: thank you
[3:10:31 AM] me: dont scam good people man
[3:10:35 AM] me: is not good for your karma
[3:10:36 AM] me:
[3:10:38 AM] Homeless King: i dont fucking scam
[3:10:40 AM] Homeless King: ....
[3:10:46 AM] me: but your customers who paid you for 1 year?
[3:10:56 AM] me: you canceled their service after a few weeks
[3:10:58 AM] Homeless King: i couldnt even get contact with them
[3:11:02 AM] me: and never refunded them
[3:11:03 AM] Homeless King: ....
[3:11:07 AM] Homeless King: what?
[3:11:15 AM] me: why to get in contact with them?
[3:11:18 AM] me: 1. you have their emails
[3:11:30 AM] me: 2. you can directly refund everyone from your paypal acccount, no need to talk with them
[3:11:30 AM] Homeless King: i dont have their mails its all on that PM box
[3:11:37 AM] me: oke
[3:11:41 AM] me: refund everyone :d
[3:11:44 AM] me: u have their paypal
[3:11:45 AM] me: for sure
[3:11:48 AM] Homeless King: which means im going to lose 120k?
[3:11:50 AM] Homeless King: hell no


Once again, I'm trully sorry for everybody...

 

[jazzc]

Posting this for your entertainment after seeing BigTroll's post above.

 

[Vic Sage]

Had issues with Petirthunder as well. He was selling sim cards and I reached out to him. Sent $200 to him, he said he sent the cards to me via DHL, I asked for the tracking code but he kept ignoring me. He kept telling me for a week that he left the code in his office (!). Then, he suddenly goes on a vacation. When I started posting about this in his method-type threads he refunded me after close to 3 weeks. Never received any tracking code from him. Clearly he didn't send the package and made me wait for nothing for 3 weeks.

I should've contacted a mod regarding this, at least should've notified someone about this. But as he refunded me I thought my statements won't be of any use to anyone....

 

[petirthunder]

I'm sorry for everyone, but you won't get your money back guys.

[3:11:45 AM] me: for sure
[3:11:48 AM] Homeless King: which means im going to lose 120k?
[3:11:50 AM] Homeless King: hell no


Once again, I'm trully sorry for everybody...

Posting this for your entertainment after seeing BigTroll's post above.

I'm demanding my rights, to stand against this defamation.

and seriously for entertainments? that Skype chat script wasn't even clarified..


and as per now i still doing my duty to deliver all the services...
regardless this defamation and accusations lead to many dispute against my Paypal account.

 

[Diamond Damien]

Banned due to charging back on membership - not related to this thread. If petirthunder would like to continue this thread please manage the paypal subscription chargeback.

I'm demanding my rights, to stand against this defamation.

and seriously for entertainments? that Skype chat script wasn't even clarified..


and as per now i still doing my duty to deliver all the services...
regardless this defamation and accusations lead to many dispute against my Paypal account.

 

[jimbodmit]

With all due respect to the mods and site owner, any chance of us getting an explanation as to why he was unbanned and posting on the forum a week after getting perm-banned? I'm a little confused tbh. But not surprised to see him getting banned again.

 

[BHW-News]

The ban wasn't lifted, it was a glitch relating to his subscription. Petirthunder was rebanned immediately after he posted.

 

[txholdem]

so petirthunder's claim of making $1000+ a day using IG is all garbage since the $97 membership is still a big deal to him? he said he owns 2 blocks of IP and pays 10s of thousands monthly on server expenses. so thats all lies?