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[webmasterbd]

Do you have any trial version to check out your software before I buy?

 

[NetMajom]

Do you have any trial version to check out your software before I buy?

$5 the trial. If you click the order now button, you will see "$5,00 USD for the first 3 days Then $36,50 USD for each year"

 

[NetMajom]

since I started its now over 5 weeks. Since 1 week I have drop in rankings. from position 6 i moved down to 13.

thats very bad. I am not sure if I should continue use IGR now or stop it.

green is the postion

And for the other problem: same here: I am never getting a higher CTR thatn 20% with IGR. Even with 10 threads and creating 5000 clicks a day I am only getting 20% counted in webmaster tools

What type of proxies do you use?

 

[monchichi]

What type of proxies do you use?

50 ports reverseproxies (backconnect proxies). for only 1 project. so that shouldnt be the issue

 

[yenerich]

You're not paying attention what I wrote.
I did increase number of clicks for more than 700% and CTR did not change.
And I'm talking google webmaster tools number, not numbers in IGR. I'm receiving more than 2k clicks if I'm watching in IGR, but around 1000 google webmister recognises.
So the point is all about CTR, not about number of clicks. Even if I would do 50k clicks, it wouldn't matter, because CTR would be still 50%.

??

I am paying attention.
I know that you was getting 140 clicks per day and now you are getting more or less 1k.
I am saying that in your niche/keywords THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, according to the results.

If you need to get better results, you need MORE clicks: thats what i tried to said and what i said many times before.

Maybe if you jump to 2k daily clicks you will get the desired results.

I say it many times: its a matter of numbers according to our experience.

since I started its now over 5 weeks. Since 1 week I have drop in rankings. from position 6 i moved down to 13.

thats very bad. I am not sure if I should continue use IGR now or stop it.

green is the postion

And for the other problem: same here: I am never getting a higher CTR thatn 20% with IGR. Even with 10 threads and creating 5000 clicks a day I am only getting 20% counted in webmaster tools

How many keywords are youy running? Maybe the problem is here.

We can do a TeamViewer session to find out whats the problem with your project or settings. If you are really getting 5k daily clicks in ONE keyword and only gets 20% CTR something is wrong.

 

[CryptoGames]

??

I am paying attention.
I know that you was getting 140 clicks per day and now you are getting more or less 1k.
I am saying that in your niche/keywords THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, according to the results.

If you need to get better results, you need MORE clicks: thats what i tried to said and what i said many times before.

Maybe if you jump to 2k daily clicks you will get the desired results.

I say it many times: its a matter of numbers according to our experience.

If number of clicks would be the most important, there would be some results when increasing them for 700%, but there was none.
And when I increase number of clicks to 2k and CTR will stay at 50%, you will say increase clicks to 4k?!?
The key here is CTR, and the question is how to increase it!?
As me and many others figure this out, CTR will not increase if number of clicks increases.

 

[Yarael]

Hums... need more info whats going on here before purchasing :S

 

[yenerich]

If number of clicks would be the most important, there would be some results when increasing them for 700%, but there was none.
And when I increase number of clicks to 2k and CTR will stay at 50%, you will say increase clicks to 4k?!?
The key here is CTR, and the question is how to increase it!?
As me and many others figure this out, CTR will not increase if number of clicks increases.

Im not sure what are you discussing. The CTR is easy to calculate and then, if you think about it, you will understand how to manipulate it.
The CTR is just the percent of the impressions that received a click.

I dont think that if you increase to 2k daily you will get, after some days, the same CTR, so it makes no sense to discuss it in those terms.

If you are using more than one keyword or more than one project or you are not using mobile user agents, then you have your answer there.

But if not, just increase the number of clicks and depending on how competitive is your keyword/niche, it should improve your CTR.

Look at the results that IGR get in some websites:

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I think it's a bit misleading to put things in perspective about "an increase of 700% in the number of clicks" when we speak of as low numbers, because at first they were only 140 clicks per day. And even with these low numbers, you already realized that IGR works.

Read your own words:

Ok folks, real case study:

I have relatively high competitive keyword (over 1 million hits in google). ...

My findings are: Insane google ranker works ...

It works... how big will be the result, its only maths.

As CTR is the result of some simple math operation, is not difficult to see that if you change one of the values (in this case the clicks) the result most probably will change, the only part that we can't manipulate is how competitive is your keyword or niche. And then you will need more click to climb more.

For future talks about this please use the HelpDesk please.

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Look at the campaign that we are running now:

We start at position 100+ and now its on 17
With as CTR of 59%
We need to get more to go in top 10, and we are close now.
(Look at the dates)
We are doing daily 2,5k clicks

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How we achieve that?

We started the 8/28

Until 9/04

Making 9k of clicks in 6 days, all to ONE keyword (medium competitive niche)
With 30 seconds delay, only mobile user agents, one project with 5 threads with 10 backconnects.

As i said many times, its only a matter of maths:

Increasing the click will increase the CTR. No mistery.

This formula CTR= Clicks/Impressions is not a secret. Its public and its the one that Google uses...
search in Google about it.

Discussing all this in a open forum is not the best idea, please use PM or HelpDesk if you have any question.
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[Pobman]

For the example you posted above can you provide the complete exact setup you are using. In full detail please i.e. how many seconds delay for each setting, thread numbers, method of cookie clearing, search method used etc.

Or include it on the help site if not here.

Thanks.

 

[Pobman]

CTR= Clicks/Impressions

This is true, but it misses the point that everybody was trying to make. I will PM you an example that perhaps might at last show the issue that several people have had.

 

[yenerich]

CTR= Clicks/Impressions

This is true, but it misses the point that everybody was trying to make. I will PM you an example that perhaps might at last show the issue that several people have had.

I posted this some days ago, watch it carefully. All the days i sent the same number of clicks... now lets see (and try to understand how Google works)

For some reason, it dont counts all the click from the first day, it even does not count the same amount of clicks every day, for some reason its counting a little more every day.

And the first and second day i get zero clicks and impressions registered.
The day 8/9/15 (10 days of running) it was (for some reason) counting more clicks, 133 of them.
After 18 days of running it was already counting 656, no matter that i send the same number of clicks each day from day 1.

This is a very clear representation of how Google is working.
People can claim that its something in IGR.
People must understand that for some reason Google works in this way. (and we can take some advantage if we understand how G works).

This is the last thing i will say about this, but i am saying it here because i want everybody to understand it.

What we think that we discover ( after watching dozens of people's Webmaster Tools running IGR) is that there are some kind of threshold (most problably its acumulative).
So its not linear:

10 daily clicks = 10% CTR
20 daily clicks = 20% CTR

BUT

x monthly clicks = x CTR (I dont know if its monthly, i guuess its not monthly, but it looks like its in a certain time maybe 2, 3,4 weeks...).

When yopu reach X amount of clicks, its like you passed to the next level.

Watch the image i posted and you will notice it.

Imaging that Google works like this (its just an example)

10 000 monthly clicks = 10% CTR
20 000 monthly clicks = 20% CTR
Etc, etc.


I hope everyone read this and for now lets talk all this things in private or Google will detects us.

Dont talk anymore about this in public please.
Do not answer this post in public please.

We just try to explain all this for everyone once, but now lets talk in private.
Google dont see the HelpDesk tickets and dont see PMs.

In the above example you give CTR is about 10-12% every single day, that is exactly the issue ... Regardless of clicks CTR for some people is not going up, clicks is going up but CTR like in your own example remains roughly the same.

Anyway OK no more talk... pretty sure I can resolve this issue with the info you provided and my own thoughts.

I said from the beggining that i give the SAME amount of click each day, there is no surprise.

Also, and this is very important, the position grows every day. And finally we are here for achiving this results. The CTR could be similar but the ranking was not the same.

In 18 days it JUMPS from ranking #46 to ranking #8 in the Google search!!!. You will not find many software capable of doing this.

There is no issue at all. People can try to understand how Google works and why it show different numbers each day, no matter that it receives the same amount of clicks, or can just think that this is a problem of the software (!!)

Look at this image, where we can see how the CTR increases

We stopped IGR for that website (to see hwo Google reacts) and you can see that CTR is almost gone (CTR is the yellow line)

Conclusion: its a 'strange' discussion, because (running it right) the software can have a great impact on the CTR.
You mention that for some people the 'CTR keeps the same', i always answers that if you want more CTR you need to increase the # of clicks
And if you stop the clicks, the CTR will gone.

How many clicks do you need to increase the CTR? It depends on many factors, per example, in how competitive is your keyword.

Finally, i just want to avoid discussing something in public because we will not disclose in public somethings that could make that the softwares gets detected (or get detected how it works, what is the logic behind the software). This things will be better discussed in private, we have PM option and a HelpDesk option. Is not that we are closed to discuss about it.

Ok, but day by day you write here to the forum public post, that your software is great, and can rank higher in the google, you put many image from the google, etc... So, the google see your posts too, and because of this, if some people discuss here a few things, than thats nothing, because your marketing posts is enough to beeing detect by Google.....

The simple truth, that you dont like that other people post bugs and error here, because its public, and may harm your business? Every software has positive and negative reviews. Just see the windows. Everybody use, but there are many bugs, and problems there. So the negativ reviews harm the windows selling? No, because they repair the bugs day by day, and the selling is growing, and growing....

You must know, that the bhw is a public forum, and this is for discuss, and speak from problems, and resolutions, new tricks, etc.... This forum is not only for marketing, and not to raise the sales.

Well... if i read the thing that you said sometime ago, it is clear that there was not strong arguments, just like this time.

In first place, you may ignore it, but this is a sales thread, not a normal thread.

But thats not the reason to avoid some kind of posts (like yours), its because some clearly goes into the HelpDesk (per example now we have to answer you in a previous post, that could not make sense to many people that reads the thread) and others, like in this ocassion, should not be discussed in public because it disclosed things about the software that its not good to disclose.

This is maybe so complicated foir you to understand, since we try to explain it many times.

 

[Pobman]

In the above example you give CTR is about 10-12% every single day, that is exactly the issue ... Regardless of clicks CTR for some people is not going up, clicks is going up but CTR like in your own example remains roughly the same.

Anyway OK no more talk... pretty sure I can resolve this issue with the info you provided and my own thoughts.

 

[NetMajom]

I hope everyone read this and for now lets talk all this things in private or Google will detects us.

Dont talk anymore about this in public please.
Do not answer this post in public please.

We just try to explain all this for everyone once, but now lets talk in private.
Google dont see the HelpDesk tickets and dont see PMs.

Ok, but day by day you write here to the forum public post, that your software is great, and can rank higher in the google, you put many image from the google, etc... So, the google see your posts too, and because of this, if some people discuss here a few things, than thats nothing, because your marketing posts is enough to beeing detect by Google.....

The simple truth, that you dont like that other people post bugs and error here, because its public, and may harm your business? Every software has positive and negative reviews. Just see the windows. Everybody use, but there are many bugs, and problems there. So the negativ reviews harm the windows selling? No, because they repair the bugs day by day, and the selling is growing, and growing....

You must know, that the bhw is a public forum, and this is for discuss, and speak from problems, and resolutions, new tricks, etc.... This forum is not only for marketing, and not to raise the sales.

 

[CryptoGames]

Yenerich don't be so stubborn and listen to other users what they are saying.
It's not about the clicks!
I did a little research for you and found where's the problem.
Almost 45% of all clicks that should happen in IGR receive error page message

So this makes sense. If I would receive those clicks, I would have 95% CTR, but because we search for these keywords, but don't click on the website, the CTR is lower.
No matter how many clicks I would produce, the CTR would stay at 50%.
When you'll fix this issue on error page, you will have something.
But until you're closing you're eyes from reality, and not listening to your users, you're not gonna develop a great software.

 

[yenerich]

Yenerich don't be so stubborn and listen to other users what they are saying.
It's not about the clicks!
I did a little research for you and found where's the problem.
Almost 45% of all clicks that should happen in IGR receive error page message
View attachment 70099
So this makes sense. If I would receive those clicks, I would have 95% CTR, but because we search for these keywords, but don't click on the website, the CTR is lower.
No matter how many clicks I would produce, the CTR would stay at 50%.
When you'll fix this issue on error page, you will have something.
But until you're closing you're eyes from reality, and not listening to your users, you're not gonna develop a great software.

Lets understand something. I am talking about the clicks that the software gives. So you are saying that i am right: you need more clicks to get better CTR.

if you confuse the clicks that occur through Google, with the failures of proxies, then there's the reason why this discussion is being meaningless.


Every time Google makes a change and this generates, as a result of this change, an error page, we update the software.


On the other hand, reverseproxies, Backconnect provider, has had severe malfunctions, simply go to the reverseproxies control panel to find this warning:

I think it is now easy to understand, right?



Please don't be so stubborn and read

But again, the solution is the same as I have been explaining: increase the number of clicks.


In this case we see that the proxies does not work properly to increase that number, but that does not negate the solution is mathematical: increase the number of clicks.

I have all the right settings from reverseproxies, powerful VPS, settings in IGR from your youtube video, but still you're saying ERROR PAGE is not my problem.

Convenient, isn't it? It's everybody elses problem, just not IGRs.
It was problem from HMA, it's not much powerful VPS, it's the proxies, cookies, etc...
Yeneric, It's your software, you can do whatever you want with it, but until it's full of bugs, you will have little sales.

We dont have little sales, dont worry.
We are selling a software that gives results and you published a review less than a week ago that says that the software works.

One reason because we dont want to discuss in this thread is because now i cant answer to your post according to BHW rules.
So people will not be able to read the answer i can give to your posts unless i publish this in a post that i published before yours, making very strange the thread.

Im not saying that all error pages are not my problem. Im saying that we usually makes the corrections everytime that we detect a problem (we made 60+ updates in a few months) BUT that there are also many other problems like reverseproxies, etc.

Also, the clicks reported by the software does not include the error pages.

At the end of the road, the secret still being the one that i recommend to you from the first time: increase the clicks.

We will do any correction if needed, as we already does, but that does not change that at the beggining we discuss that the way to get a better CTR was getting more clicks and some people (like you) says that no matter how many clicks, you get the same CTR.

Even you published a review saying that the software works.

Saying that the software is full of bugs is not being honest, and you know it. Please stop publishing big red texts with phrases that can mislead the people that read it.

 

[ibosan]

Any reviews on ranking increases? Been trying a similar method for over 3 months now and haven't seen any improvements in rankings (CTR and clicks are off the roof but otherwise rank is the same). Not sure how this software would be different to my method but want to hear reviews nevertheless that this does work.

 

[CryptoGames]

I have all the right settings from reverseproxies, powerful VPS, settings in IGR from your youtube video, but still you're saying ERROR PAGE is not my problem.

Convenient, isn't it? It's everybody elses problem, just not IGRs.
It was problem from HMA, it's not much powerful VPS, it's the proxies, cookies, etc...
Yeneric, It's your software, you can do whatever you want with it, but until it's full of bugs, you will have little sales.

 

[Pobman]

The error page thing is most definitely mostly down to the proxies, no real way around that unless you can specify 100% Google working proxies... reverse proxies did say they would try and offer that, I don't know if they have or not.

 

[yenerich]

The error page thing is most definitely mostly down to the proxies, no real way around that unless you can specify 100% Google working proxies... reverse proxies did say they would try and offer that, I don't know if they have or not.

Yes, i am agree , and its not "convenient" at all, in fact its the opossite. Because if the proxies have a problem it affects our results.


I will only make it as clear as possible that you can, as we showed in this same page, start running Insane Google Ranker today and
in 18 days go from ranking #46 to ranking #8 in Google's results
according to Google's official data. You will not find a lot of software that can do this.

And for just $36,50 USD for a year?

The stats that shows this info:

I am sure that the software could run event better (thats why we release more than 40 updates in a few weeks), but i am sure too that RIGHT NOW it can give great results as it is. We will continue making it even better, becuase it runs fine right now.

 

[moneyfreedom]

I've been using Yenerics software for quite some time successfully and I can tell you right now from experience that if it's not working for you then you have something wrong with your settings or proxies. First check to make sure that all of your url's in your projects are lowercase, if they begin with an uppercase letter then the software will not find them. Next make sure that your internet explorer settings are set up properly and that protected mode is disabled as well as any other high security settings since these will interfere with the software. It took me a few days to figure out what the right settings were but now that i've figured them out the software is working flawlessly. Just overnight i got 2k clicks to my sites and am already seeing noticeable SERP improvements ever since using the software. If it's still not working right for you then maybe try getting Yeneric and his team to troubleshoot for you and figure out what the issue is, they are pretty good at doing that.

I have all the right settings from reverseproxies, powerful VPS, settings in IGR from your youtube video, but still you're saying ERROR PAGE is not my problem.

Convenient, isn't it? It's everybody elses problem, just not IGRs.
It was problem from HMA, it's not much powerful VPS, it's the proxies, cookies, etc...
Yeneric, It's your software, you can do whatever you want with it, but until it's full of bugs, you will have little sales.