Macbook Pro yes/no and why

True, but with windows is like trillions security updates per day which either work or fuck up all your os, with mac you get occasionally updates and most of them are related to new hardware support such as cameras printers etc. And best of all if you by any chance destroy your mac and your hard drive survives, you simply put the old drive in your new mac(you can copy it, as well), and everything is back without any hassle.

But I do understand people using windows desktops with the ability to upgrade your PC as long as you like and make expansions etc... Been one of those people since the era of XTs, still like DOS.

There aren't that many updates by Mircosoft, and old HD can be switched from pc to pc.
 
OP I have just had a quick look through the thread, I maybe wrong but it seems everyone who says they have used both mac and windows machines all say go with the mac opposed to the apple haters who are just spouting off generic apple hate without ever having used a mac.

Should be all you need to know...
 
OP I have just had a quick look through the thread, I maybe wrong but it seems everyone who says they have used both mac and windows machines all say go with the mac opposed to the apple haters who are just spouting off generic apple hate without ever having used a mac.

Should be all you need to know...

The "Apple Haters" are trying to make sure that OP gets the best specs for what he needs.
 
The "Apple Haters" are trying to make sure that OP gets the best specs for what he needs.

Its not a specs game its an overall package / experience game. Stop hating and lay down the facts.
 
Again the who got the longest dick. Man you just don't get it and borrow a mac for a week and you will see what I'm talking about.
 
I admit Macs and very nice, powerful and less susceptible to viruses. But personally I will always stick to windows.

Being practical, I guess it would be great for you in terms of video editing, if that's all you were doing, but if you are going to want to run SEO software on it, then maybe windows is better as it's more compatible.
 
Again the who got the longest dick. Man you just don't get it and borrow a mac for a week and you will see what I'm talking about.

Gaming Laptops are designed to be ergonomic, since gamers need that more so than the people that use mac laptops.
 
But the neverending Mac is better than PC debate is retarded. I do love making fun of mactards because, let's face it, most can't even make a valid argument why a Mac is superior to a PC. Most don't even realize that it's not an issue of one being better or worse, it all has to do with preference. "Macs are better" is not an argument LOL.

Anyway, as I already pointed out above, PC's are usually superior, in terms of hardware. However, the above-mentioned two are the VALID arguments I'll buy any day of the week. Bring those into the discussion and I'll agree with you. Don't and I'll bash you to hell and back. :)

And it really is retarded to the larger extent of things because it is about preference, and what you are doing with it.

If this were a discussion about the very best gaming experience for example, you couldn't find me defending a Mac at all. But since this is about marketing - that's something that I can justify saying there might be some bright points to them despite the discrepancy in hardware:cost ratio when compared to PCs.

But in the end, it is about preference. Kind of like my point about two different whiskeys. People are going to prefer one to the other despite any price difference. It's also why I don't think it's the end of the world to use a PC. Hell, I'm sitting here typing this on a PC. :D

I think there are some great PCs out there and I think there are some great Macs out there. At this point, I just really prefer the Mac's user experience and associated assets - plus I went head first into the ecosystem once I understood what it was all about.

As a completely secondary point to this - I'm also building a PC currently - but completely for gaming on my 4k TV. Why? Because that's something PCs are awesome at!

In the end, I suppose it's looking at the job you have to do and picking what you feel is the best tool to get that done.
 
They can't beat a good MSI gaming laptop or an ASUS gaming laptop.

Have to agree with this, never owned myself but seen them in work. Impressed by the overall quality - they both seem like decent manufacturers.

And it really is retarded to the larger extent of things because it is about preference, and what you are doing with it.

If this were a discussion about the very best gaming experience for example, you couldn't find me defending a Mac at all. But since this is about marketing - that's something that I can justify saying there might be some bright points to them despite the discrepancy in hardware:cost ratio when compared to PCs.

But in the end, it is about preference. Kind of like my point about two different whiskeys. People are going to prefer one to the other despite any price difference. It's also why I don't think it's the end of the world to use a PC. Hell, I'm sitting here typing this on a PC.
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I think there are some great PCs out there and I think there are some great Macs out there. At this point, I just really prefer the Mac's user experience and associated assets - plus I went head first into the ecosystem once I understood what it was all about.

As a completely secondary point to this - I'm also building a PC currently - but completely for gaming on my 4k TV. Why? Because that's something PCs are awesome at!

In the end, I suppose it's looking at the job you have to do and picking what you feel is the best tool to get that done.

Amen to that, buy the machine that works for you - all this BS Mac vs PC talk is wasting time from real work!
 
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Mac is more of a prosumer type of product, so its good for them. But lately they haven't really done anything to hit the powerusers that need lots of ram, they decided for some reason to only put slots for 4 modules of ram in the new Mac Pro, instead of 8 so one can have 128GB of ram. 64GB is barely cutting it for people that are doing alot of production.
 
Got the mid 2014 15" macbook pro. Using it for video editing, photo editing, graphic design, IM, writing, watching movies. It handles everything with ease. Never had a problem with a macs, since I started using them in 2010. Well worth the extra money, and I find OSX to be far more conducive for developing good workflows than Windows.

Resale prices stay really high, so I sell my mac and buy a new one every other year. Can't say the same for other laptops, most of them are not even in a condition good enough to be sold after two years (except if you sell it for peanuts).

Will never go back to windows. Had nothing with problems with computers before I moved onto Macs. .
 
Mac is more of a prosumer type of product, so its good for them. But lately they haven't really done anything to hit the powerusers that need lots of ram, they decided for some reason to only put slots for 4 modules of ram in the new Mac Pro, instead of 8 so one can have 128GB of ram. 64GB is barely cutting it for people that are doing alot of production.

Yeah, that was pretty dumb on their part... But there are solutions.

Either way, it's such a small part of the market that's going to get a Mac Pro, let alone need 128GB ram. But you're right, it should have been a factory option at least.
 
If you want to play video games then yeah get a Windows PC. As someone who is all work though, I find Apple products to be my choice. I like the design, Apple releases some of the best OS I have ever used. My iPhone for instance isn't as "powerful" as the other Android phones but it runs just as fast (if not faster) because the OS is designed great. I am in the process of buying a macbook pro as well.

Another thing about Apple that makes them very good to work with is their customer loyalty. I have had products break because of my own fault (I dropped my phone and cracked the screen) without warranty and they replaced it free. My friends have had their macbooks break down and the people at the Apple store were nice enough to replace it for free. They go out of their way to make sure you are treated right. I love that.

To each his own, but calling people idiots for using an "inferior" product is silly. If you have the money and like it, who cares about it being worth more.
 
Yeah, that was pretty dumb on their part... But http://blog.macsales.com/23397-owc-introduces-128gb-memory-upgrade-kit-for-latest-apple-mac-pro-offers-up-to-double-the-ram-vs-factory-maximum-offered.

Either way, it's such a small part of the market that's going to get a Mac Pro, let alone need 128GB ram. But you're right, it should have been a factory option at least.

Their 5K All in one Desktop seems nice, If I was going to get a mac desktop thats the one I would buy. I would also consider getting a mac laptop when they make a 17" 4K one. I'm surprised that APPLE has they never made an enterprise division to sell products to companies or people needing serious processing power.
 
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Their 5K All in one Desktop seems nice, If I was going to get a mac desktop thats the one I would buy. I would also consider getting a mac laptop when they make a 17" 4K one. I'm surprised that APPLE has they never made an enterprise division to sell products to companies or people needing serious processing power.

Well, Apple has their customer base that they know well - coffee sipping hipsters that smoke cloves and millennials - neither group needs anything major other than some web development (that's us) and photography tools - maybe some sound and video tools as well. But mostly, it's about ease of use over pedal-to-the-metal, in your face, fuck you processor power.

It's not like the generation just 10 years before them that were heavily invested into processor intensive software like heavy CAD drafting tools or the like (although some CAD work is done on Macs despite this.)

Really, I think that Apple would venture in that direction if the market supported it. As it is they have 15" Macbook Pros with automatic switching dual video cards in the higher end i7 quad core models so they aren't exactly completely shy of moving in a more aggressive direction - I think it's just a matter of software developers for more intensive software identifying a customer base and creating the software for them, and then the customer base will demand the hardware support from Mac in reaction to that.

In the end, someone has to either make it available for the customer has to establish a demand - but one of the two has to happen before Apple would take that really seriously I think.
 
OP I have just had a quick look through the thread, I maybe wrong but it seems everyone who says they have used both mac and windows machines all say go with the mac opposed to the apple haters who are just spouting off generic apple hate without ever having used a mac.

Should be all you need to know...

You're wrong. I've bought several Macs in the past and always ended up returning them. Sure, Windows may be shit, but I couldn't get used to working with a Mac for the life of me.
 
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