Becoming disillusioned with IM.

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I don't think it's anything to do with not working hard enough, the work I am doing is probably not right for the goals I am trying to achieve. I am currently working between 12-15 hours a day but most of that seems to be spent researching how to do certain things such as backlinking, posting to social media etc.

The research part is most likely where I am failing. I find it difficult to find current methods of promotion, many of the promotional methods I find would have worked maybe 5-10 years ago but are irrelevant today because of Google/Facebook/Twitter updates.

Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on that soon.

@john1444: Thanks, I may contact you over the next few days. My internet connection is still a bit choppy at the moment so I would prefer to wait until it has settled down a bit.
 
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I created a similar thread to you a while ago, so I totally feel you bro (or sister?), just remember why you decided to do this, don't let quitting be an option, and I'm sure you'll succeed, it's the law of nature almost when you get that "click moment" when things just start to fall into place. Good luck with it.
 
Two things:
1. Niche research. Learn how to find a good niche. There are still many micro niches in which you can rank your site on page 1 very easily, without any investments.
2. Do your math. I mean, do you really expect to make a breakthrough in IM with one MNS site??? Come on... Sometimes there's a "spell" on one site and you won't rank it whatever. You should always have more sites, especially if MNs is your game. One ranks better, one earns more, etc...
 
Two things:
1. Niche research. Learn how to find a good niche. There are still many micro niches in which you can rank your site on page 1 very easily, without any investments.
2. Do your math. I mean, do you really expect to make a breakthrough in IM with one MNS site??? Come on... Sometimes there's a "spell" on one site and you won't rank it whatever. You should always have more sites, especially if MNs is your game. One ranks better, one earns more, etc...

No, I don't expect a breakthrough with one MNS. I have tried a few methods and always found it difficult to rank, whether that is with a site, a youtube video or whatever else I have tried.

I think I might start again from scratch following all the tutorials for niche research through to backlink building and see how it goes. It may just be I am trying to rank keywords that are far too competitive. I have been given a keyword that is supposed to be easy by Ardley216. I may give that a shot and see how I go.
 
Keep posting loo*sers.I'm going back to my work.But seeing your over 6000 posts i can instantly see you have no other work to do than posing

I have been doing IM since 1969, and I have a lot of posts as I pay people to do my work, as I am too busy spending my IM money. You get back to your work, have a nice day.
 
He also referred to jstover changing from "before". Jstover has recently become more active so I can only assume the guy is implying quite a considerable amount of time ago.

Considering he only became a member in September, he shouldn't be able to remember jstover from "before".

TL;DR Perhaps a dupe account set up to troll or a returning banned member.
This and he mentions how BHW "changed" since 2010. Screams dupe or previously banned account.
 
This and he mentions how BHW "changed" since 2010. Screams dupe or previously banned account.

I knew I recognised that dudes name from somewhere. He was the guy that started a shitlist thread against bankrollmedia aka cashnone aka manny g.

Just having a look through the old threads, cached in the case of the shitlist as its been removed, he states:

I contacted him arround 4 days ago as i saw he is on bhw again (as his old account was banned "cashnone")

The shitlist was started on 27th September. The last post by cashnone who he claimed was the same person was from June 2013, over a year before IMerSince1997 joined BHW. He seemed to know all about cashnone and stated as above: "I saw he is on BHW again"

Maybe a little work for our resident detective is called for here.
 
You dont have over 6,000 posts ya donut :P

I have been doing IM since 1969, and I have a lot of posts as I pay people to do my work, as I am too busy spending my IM money. You get back to your work, have a nice day.
 
Heading out the door now, but reach out to me if you want. I have a large file full of niches and definitely not enough time in the world to do them all. Your English seems decent, and I am sure you should have made more than a few dollars in a month with the right motivation and focus.

PM your skype if you want, I don't mind helping someone who actually is willing to put in the work.
 
Hi buddy, there is always a way to win.

All business, whether its offline or online, will face difficulties. Finding a new niche market? Congratulations. In just few weeks, some mega-millionaires could literally gobble up your new-found niche market. Every market in the world, will in turn became what we call in business management studies a red ocean. A blue ocean, where competitors is scarce and resources are plenty, must always be sought on.

Yes, IM is not a blue ocean anymore. There is so much people in IM now, that will be your competitor. What you must do? Stay ahead.
IM be seen from whole market perspective is already saturated, but what about finding a niche in IM itself? For example, a focus on reputation management. There are lots of IM-ers that gain money from AdSense, but there are few who is banking from reputation management.
There are a lot of people gains fortune by selling articles, but some entrepreneur could transform a article-writing business into a media/online business, creating new playing field, and expanding possibilities.
Maybe in US IM is already saturated. But what about Asia? Japan? Indonesia? South Korea? You can put yourself as an IM trainer and gain a lot of cash here. Just a peek, a senior IM trainer in here could earn up to $ 50,000 every month for just one day of training every week.

My advice is to expand your IM, there is always an opportunity out there.
Work smart, not work hard. Take a lot of time to THINK, and find opportunities.
Don't follow other people, find your own path, there lies a key to victory.

Anyway, in practical terms, I would suggest that a clear money generating income is necessary. You should get a job. IM is not the only thing in the world. In fact, a lot of people become successful from outside IM. If you are into gaming industry, you would discover that there are lots of indie developers popping up and getting kick-started these days.
 
You should get a job.

Why has this been repeated several times??

I have already stated, I DO WORK OUTSIDE OF IM, quite successfully as well I might add!!!

I already have an income that is substantial enough for me to be able to pay my bills, look after my family, take a couple of holidays per year and I am relatively comfortable financially. I do not need to go and work at McDonalds or similar, I have a share in an offline business that brings in a decent income. I do have other skills for offline work as well but unfortunately it is in an industry that has been just about destroyed in the UK which is what led me to setting up my company. IM is just another income stream that I am attempting to tap into, I don't believe in putting all my eggs in one basket.
 
Why has this been repeated several times??

I have already stated, I DO WORK OUTSIDE OF IM, quite successfully as well I might add!!!

I already have an income that is substantial enough for me to be able to pay my bills, look after my family, take a couple of holidays per year and I am relatively comfortable financially. I do not need to go and work at McDonalds or similar, I have a share in an offline business that brings in a decent income. I do have other skills for offline work as well but unfortunately it is in an industry that has been just about destroyed in the UK which is what led me to setting up my company. IM is just another income stream that I am attempting to tap into, I don't believe in putting all my eggs in one basket.

People tend to not understand nor read what they should. Buddy I started out with very little and turned
IM into a full income for me. It was not easy, and I had to fight the negativity of outsiders looking into my
plan. Nowadays they ask me if I need any help. lol

No reason why you should not be making what you did in a few years in one day. Something is completely
wrong with how you are going about IM. If you want some advice and for us to go into detail I will help you
all I can on Skype or PM.

Good luck!
 
Something is completely
wrong with how you are going about IM.

Exactly my point. Yes business is business wherever you are conducting your trade but there are distinct differences between running a regular bricks & mortar business and internet marketing.

I only have offline business experience and whilst you can bring the determination and work ethic to your online ventures, not all of the same techniques can be applied.

Thanks for the kind offer and I may contact you soon. I'm just chilling a bit today doing a bit of keyword research. I'll get back to it tomorrow and I intend to start asking more questions when I get stuck.
 
Thanks for the kind offer and I may contact you soon. I'm just chilling a bit today doing a bit of keyword research. I'll get back to it tomorrow and I intend to start asking more questions when I get stuck.

Just a tip - when someone offers advice you may find useful, responding "may contact you another day cause today I'm scratching my balls" isn't exactly winning you points, on the contrary it shows disrespect for his time - or that's just me being old and nitpicking :o
 
I think your missing the big picture, you should continue to focus on what has succeded for you in the past and pursue IM as a learning opportunity (college years) until you have grasped the medium completelty. So far, I spend close to 20K in 18 months learning about it and only made $11.00 call it stupid or persistant is how you want to view it. I decided to learn about IM to help myself for when I have my own practice and make money on the side helping other. I see it as a win, win for me. Sure, is costing money but I considere it well spent. Not chasing my tail anymore, I been able to learn how to filter the noise and focus on what works. We are like miner in the constant search for that vein with gold, not only a few nuggets but we need to move a lot of dirt first to find it. . Hang in there and take a few days off until your state mind can clear out the fog or self doubts.
 
Hey OP I just wanted to chime in, and please don't take this the wrong way but if you are solidly working for 12 - 15 hour work days on IM on a daily basis you should in theory see results with in 2 to 3 months, sounds like you may have poor time management skills, like me when I first started.
I thought I was working 12 - 15 hours a day but I really wasnt, I was easily distracted by facebook, twitter youtube and whatever other internet distraction gets you from being productive.

I made a plan for what I should be doing form day to day, regardless of how I felt I managed to get shit done. in this business you are easily distracted by many things and you'll easily find yourself doing nothing, from this simple change I saw results coming quicker.

Also being in IM I think most people spread themselves thin across too many projects which starts the repetition of constant start and failures, start with one project and focus on just that and make it as good as you possibly can, test new strategies and techniques all the time change stuff around and just tweek and tweek until you get some better results, you will be really surprised.
Never stop trialling and testing:
As an example:
one of my high ranking sites fell in the serps significantly cutting my sales 80%, for a month I was like 'WTF' and I was just reading and testing just to get some more ideas as to handle the problem. All of a sudden a possible solution jumped into my head! I ended up just changing the permalink structure of my site and automatically i started seeing my site rising up in the serps back to where It was originally.

Cover all your bases, literally! use Social media, on page and off page SEO, email marketing, forums, guest posting, PR posting and etc, these are all tools which will benefit you and will go hand in hand with all your projects, never look past them and try to do them all.
Most people just do SEO and it works for them, for me I do everything to promote a site, after all the key is to make it as natural looking as possible so all your hard work is not going to be taken away from you in one google update.

Read, learn and take action: read and learn as much as you can and apply it to your own projects, read blogs and forums like BHW, maybe rip a few WSO's which relates to you.
You may not have the right mind set, maybe you should try to get your hands on some motivational speaker videos which can relate to you. Try Jordan Bellforts video course, the motivational side is awesome and significantly helped me with my progression.

That all being said, you have to do the ground work before jumping onto a project in IM, im not going to go into detail here as other members have already covered this aspect in your thread but doing Keyword research and measuring up your competition is absolute KEY. Not knowing how to do this and ignoring this important aspect you are gambling your time and money and you will certainly set yourself up to fail.

I hope this helps and never stop reading and learning, all the best
 
Just a tip - when someone offers advice you may find useful, responding "may contact you another day cause today I'm scratching my balls" isn't exactly winning you points, on the contrary it shows disrespect for his time - or that's just me being old and nitpicking :o

Appreciate your point jazz but with all due respect you have no idea about my personal life or other commitments.

I mean no disrespect by suggesting that I am not going to jump straight on skype to anyone who offers support, I am stating that because I am actually a little busy with other things today. I am doing a little keyword research and browsing the forum but I also have my kids around with homework questions and wanting me to fix up stuff that they have broken. I do not intend to enter into a discussion about business with those kind of distractions around me, that would be even more unprofessional IMO!!!

I was just stating that I was chilling because I see no need to discuss every aspect of my personal circumstances on a public forum.
 
Appreciate your point jazz but with all due respect you have no idea about my personal life or other commitments.

Nor do I care about it. I'm commenting only on what you said. You can take the hint or not - isn't going to bring more food on my table either way.
 
Fair enough, you are free to comment as you see fit. This is a public forum after all but I am just stating that sometimes in life things need to be prioritized. When I am surrounded by distractions I don't believe that is the best time to start a discussion with somebody about SEO, keyword optimisation or anything else that requires full on attention. I chose not to explain exactly why I am not immediately taking the offer of help because it was completely irrelevant.

I was most certainly NOT intending to be disrespectful to anyone and if I came across as such I would like to apologise immediately. It was not my intention to do so. I have an enormous amount of respect for anyone on this or any other site that will take time out to assist a complete stranger in whatever they are trying to achieve and there are a number of people who have responded to this thread with an offer of help.

The initial point of this thread was to discover for myself whether I should continue with IM or diversify my offline business ventures. After reading through the (mostly) positive comments from the members of this forum I have decided to stick with it and continue trying to crack internet marketing. Obviously I will still have to continue with my offline work but I will be dedicating as much time as I can to IM.
 
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