ThinkBinary's Guide To Not Get Scammed [After Being Scammed TWICE In 1 Week]

So an update... Got an email from paypal saying they are declining my dispute as they do not cover virtual products! WTF?? So despite the evidence they gave the scammer the money. How pathetic from PAYPAL! We need an paypal alternative for safer online purchases. $150 down the drain!

I always pay with a credit card through Paypal. I had an issue with some software I purchased last week. Contacted the seller they refused to refund even though they broke their own terms of service, I created a claim in Paypal and the rejected because of a virtual good. Then I called my credit card company within 10 minutes the money was back in my account. They will take it up with Paypal and whatever the outcome is it doesn't matter, they say I keep the money.
 
I've been scammed a few times - it sucks ay!
The rules I set for myself now are simply not dealing with people that have no reputation - really Im talking about BHW, but I dont deal with anyone who doesnt have a decent amount of posts and/or decent itrader score.
Of course that doesnt guarantee that I wont get scammed, but it shortens the odds a little.

for bhw i cut out all the following

1 - new members
2 - low post accounts
3 - inactive accounts for many yrs that go on a buy spree
4 - random skype adds blocked b4 they start.
 
I no longer buy overseas....India to be specific. Had about 50% scam rate from that country. Could just be my experience, but from the looks of your case I doubt that
 
So guys, what can I say. Followed all the rules and bought from a provider on BHW and got fucked over again!

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...cheapest-fastest-delivery-hq-approved-32.html

Is there anything I can do about this?


You could open a shitlist thread, did the seller offer any refund or guarantee.

Buying views, especially low quality ones is a risky game now, so maybe you should just accept his offer of $20 and leave the bad review and be done with it.
 
I just ordered 3000 views to one of my videos on Youtube from a bst seller here.

Had them drip fed in over four days

Day1: 800 views....nice
Day2: 1900 views....looking good
Day3: 2600 views.....nearly there
Day4: *Your video has been removed*

In fairness, the guy did his job as requested so I dont blame him. Youtube are just cunts at the moment and I dont know how you guys that make money there put up with the bullshit.

So guys, what can I say. Followed all the rules and bought from a provider on BHW and got fucked over again!

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...cheapest-fastest-delivery-hq-approved-32.html

Is there anything I can do about this?
 
You could open a shitlist thread, did the seller offer any refund or guarantee.

Buying views, especially low quality ones is a risky game now, so maybe you should just accept his offer of $20 and leave the bad review and be done with it.

Go check the updated post I made on his thread. He does not want to refund anything! He wanted me to first close dispute of $26. Which I know if I did he would not refund me anyway.
 
I just ordered 3000 views to one of my videos on Youtube from a bst seller here.

Had them drip fed in over four days

Day1: 800 views....nice
Day2: 1900 views....looking good
Day3: 2600 views.....nearly there
Day4: *Your video has been removed*

In fairness, the guy did his job as requested so I dont blame him. Youtube are just cunts at the moment and I dont know how you guys that make money there put up with the bullshit.

Well you mentioned he did his job... Well he said that the HR more expensive views are safe and his cheap views will get your video banned. That's what he says after my video gets banned. So why the hell sell people cheap views if it gets shitted and banned after 3 days? He did not do his job and I can bet on it that his HR views will get you banned as well as its all embed views form the same site. Point is he should mention that before one buys. And then he deletes you from skype and demands you review the post stating his views got your video banned? Is that fair? I don't think so. People have the right to know that his views got my video banned. PERIOD

And then he lies to paypal saying he fully delivered my order which he did not + he deletes the messages he sent me over skype so I cannot use it as proof... Now does that sound like someone doing his job?
 
Go check the updated post I made on his thread. He does not want to refund anything! He wanted me to first close dispute of $26. Which I know if I did he would not refund me anyway.

Well Shitlist him then, there is a good chance you will lose the dispute.
The problem is that nobody forced you to buy those views and Videos getting banned because of cheap views has been a problem for months. If you think he has ripped you off SL him or just swallow it and move on.
 
I always pay with a credit card through Paypal. I had an issue with some software I purchased last week. Contacted the seller they refused to refund even though they broke their own terms of service, I created a claim in Paypal and the rejected because of a virtual good. Then I called my credit card company within 10 minutes the money was back in my account. They will take it up with Paypal and whatever the outcome is it doesn't matter, they say I keep the money.

I also used my cc via paypal to pay... Only issue is I am in South Africa and our "service" is not that good lol. They would want letters and proof and this and that and then maybe in 10 days they might get the money back.
 
I paid for high retention views to be safe. Im probably a bit mellow because it hasnt affected me much its just an inconvenience and I am learning about Youtube. As far as I can see buying views for youtube at present is a guaranteed video take down and it would be nice to know this before you spend money but no seller is interested in telling you that.

If I was getting ignored/deleted off skype etc then I would be pretty pissed off.

Well you mentioned he did his job... Well he said that the HR more expensive views are safe and his cheap views will get your video banned. That's what he says after my video gets banned. So why the hell sell people cheap views if it gets shitted and banned after 3 days? He did not do his job and I can bet on it that his HR views will get you banned as well as its all embed views form the same site. Point is he should mention that before one buys. And then he deletes you from skype and demands you review the post stating his views got your video banned? Is that fair? I don't think so. People have the right to know that his views got my video banned. PERIOD

And then he lies to paypal saying he fully delivered my order which he did not + he deletes the messages he sent me over skype so I cannot use it as proof... Now does that sound like someone doing his job?
 
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Well Shitlist him then, there is a good chance you will lose the dispute.
The problem is that nobody forced you to buy those views and Videos getting banned because of cheap views has been a problem for months. If you think he has ripped you off SL him or just swallow it and move on.

The way he acted is what is scammy. Deleting his messages on skype, deleting me, telling paypal he delivered the full order which he did not. I paid for 5000 more views, 100 likes and 25 comments which was not delivered.

I cannot post in the shitlist section because I am not JR.VIP, otherwise I would defs... I mean its not $14 + $150 + $26 scammed in under 3 weeks. It all adds up...
 
I paid for high retention views to be safe. Im probably a bit mellow because it hasnt affected me much its just an inconvenience and I am learning about Youtube. As far as I can see buying views for ebay at present is a guaranteed video take down and it would be nice to know this before you spend money but no seller is interested in telling you that.

If I was getting ignored/deleted off skype etc then I would be pretty pissed off.
I agree... They charge you more for "safe views" and then still sell you cheap views without saying its gna get the video banned before you order! And The expensive views also gets the video banned most likely....
 
The way he acted is what is scammy. Deleting his messages on skype, deleting me, telling paypal he delivered the full order which he did not. I paid for 5000 more views, 100 likes and 25 comments which was not delivered.

I cannot post in the shitlist section because I am not JR.VIP, otherwise I would defs... I mean its not $14 + $150 + $26 scammed in under 3 weeks. It all adds up...

You do not have to be JrVIP to post a Shit List, if you are having trouble then contact a SL Mod
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f31-shit-list/
Make sure you have all your evidence ready and notify the guy that you are starting the thread.
 
Well Shitlist him then, there is a good chance you will lose the dispute.
The problem is that nobody forced you to buy those views and Videos getting banned because of cheap views has been a problem for months. If you think he has ripped you off SL him or just swallow it and move on.

Id really appreciate it if you guys can like my post on his thread or comment to bring this to peoples attention. If I at least get $20 back instead of $26 it would be nice. But he deleted me and tells paypal he delivered order in full, which is a BIG FAT BS lie!

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None of the orders are completed and the comments are still pending. You can see the date and time I took the screenshot, which was Today, but my video was removed 2 days ago!
 
You do not have to be JrVIP to post a Shit List, if you are having trouble then contact a SL Mod
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f31-shit-list/
Make sure you have all your evidence ready and notify the guy that you are starting the thread.

Who is the best SL mod to contact? I have all the evidence so that is not a problem. Thanks for the help! I will try and contact the seller now and ask him to refund one last time otherwise its going to the shitlist....
 
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